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Post by melody on Apr 23, 2013 20:25:51 GMT -5
REP. VITALI AND OTHER LAWMAKERS URGE PA TO PRESERVE LOYALSOCK STATE FOREST
4/23/13
By Kati Lawson, PLS Intern
Rep. Greg Vitali (D-Delaware) held a press conference this morning to call for the preservation of Loyalsock State Forest in Sullivan and Lycoming counties. Rep. Vitali was joined in his efforts by Representatives Steve Santarsiero (D-Bucks), Steve McCarter (D-Montgomery), Rick Mirabito (D-Lycoming), and Tim Briggs (D-Montgomery).
Rep. Vitali urged Gov. Tom Corbett to do everything in his power to preserve Loyalsock Forest. “The Forest is threatened by proposed drilling by Anadarko Petroleum Corporation and other natural gas drilling companies,” said Rep. Vitali. “The bottom line is that the forest will be severely compromised if the proposed plan goes through.”
Rep. Vitali said Anadarko Petroleum needs Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR) permission to drill in the forest because the Commonwealth owns surface rights to the forest. Rep. Vitali said that DCNR will host a webinar at 1:00 p.m. on Thursday, April 25 to discuss drilling in Loyalsock State Forest.
Rep. Mirabito said DCNR works hard to protect state forest lands, but he does not think that now is the time to drill there. “Over 10,000 people across the Commonwealth signed petitions to stop drilling in Loyalsock,” said Rep. Mirabito. “People want a fair and balanced approach to natural gas drilling.”
Rep. Santarsiero said he is very concerned with drilling for natural gas in state forests. “We are here today because we have not taxed the extraction of natural gas in the past,” said Rep. Santarsiero. “A severance tax would ease the pressure on the state to lease out state lands for drilling.”
There is a current fee imposed by Act 13, but Rep. Santarsiero does not think it is sufficient. “We need to have a fair natural gas tax like they have in every other state,” said Rep. Santarsiero. “We do not need to turn our state parks and forests into private enterprise lands for drilling.”
Rep. McCarter said drilling has both immediate and future consequences. “The immediate risk is that drilling will ruin ecologically important lands,” said Rep. McCarter. “For the sake of our environment and tourism it is crucial that Gov. Corbett take pause before allowing drilling to take place in state forests because it could devastate the priceless land.”
Paul Zeph, Director of Conservation for Loyalsock State Forest, said the forest’s size, headwater streams, lack of disturbance, and overall health make it an extremely valuable woodland habitat.
“The Loyalsock State Forest is considered by Game Commission ornithologists as one of the best forest Important Bird Areas (IBA) in Pennsylvania,” explained Zeph.
Zeph urged lawmakers to save the forest, saying that unconventional drilling on the lands will cause a “silent spring” in the forest for several sensitive species of birds. “Drilling will severely fragment this bird nursery and greatly impact its productivity,” said Zeph. “We expect Gov. Corbett and DCNR to do their jobs and protect our special places.”
Bonita Hoke, executive director of the League of Women Voters, explained that her organization is upset that Loyalsock is being considered as a site for natural gas development.
“DCNR is called upon to protect the Pennsylvania Constitution because citizens have a right to clean water, air, and natural resources,” said Hoke. “We believe it is important that DCNR reexamine and reclassify species and parts of the forest to protect it from drilling.”
Jeff Schmidt, senior chapter director for the Sierra Club asked, “how much is enough?” Schmidt said the natural gas drilling industry has access to more than 700,000 acres of publicly owned state forest land. “Because DCNR has control over surface rights they have the unique ability in this situation to control natural gas drilling.”
Schmidt said he is concerned that the public had no say in the decision to drill in state-owned forest land. “We want the Corbett administration to stop the backroom dealing and stop drilling for natural gas in state forests,” said Schmidt.
Mark Szybist, staff attorney at PennFuture, explained that drilling in Loyalsock State Forest is a unique case because the state owns surface rights to the land while companies own gas and mineral rights. “If DCNR restricts access to drilling on the 19,000 acres of surface rights they control the energy companies might think developing the rest of the land was not worthwhile,” said Szybist. “DCNR should not agree to any development deal until all alternatives have been studied and exhausted.”
Curt Ashenfelter, executive director of the Keystone Trails Association, said that when trails are threatened activists must stand up for the land. “The state can protect much of the trails due to their surface rights ownership but they are not doing that,” said Ashenfelter. He said that he is offended because the government requests volunteer labor to keep the trails maintained but they will not protect the integrity of the land.
Don Robertson, national director of the Izaak Walton League of America, said DCNR needs to have a meeting open to the public. “What’s going to be left,” asked Robertson. “At the end of the day is there going to be enough to hand down to our grandchildren?”
Responsible Drilling Alliance President Ralph Kisberg called the forest a sanctuary between counties affected heavily by Marcellus Shale drilling. Kisberg said the mineral rights in the forest were acquired cheaply and that the Commonwealth has not been negotiating from a position of strength with the drilling companies.
“The asset that we have is what we must protect,” said Kisberg. “The administration needs to hear from the public and understand that we do not want to give up our rights and our assets in the state forests.”
Rep. Vitali said that the protection of state forest lands is an important statewide issue. He said he believes that DCNR, Department of Environmental Protection, and the Corbett administration have good intentions, but that they need to be educated on what is important and why. “We want to urge the governor to spend more time on this problem to get the best outcome possible,” said Rep. Vitali. He said that there would be a House Democratic Policy Committee hearing on May 1st at Lycoming College.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2013 5:26:57 GMT -5
So, why isn't there a fuss over the other state forests that have been impacted?
I support drilling and I'm sure this will be done responsibly. Rendell opened a can of worms when he opened the state forests up tho, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 5:37:22 GMT -5
I support domestic production of energy, including drilling for natural gas as opposed to buying our energy from arab countries and thus supporting terrorism or pouring money down ratholes such as the Solyndra crapola. I also think governor Corbett's opposition to a severance tax on gas produced is political payback for the driller contributions to his campaign. Since other states have it why don't we? Politics as usual.
Perhaps bowbum will chime in on this one since he lives in an area where a lot of drilling has taken place, but it is my understanding that when they drill they put down a pad area of about an acre or so for a well that extracts gas from about a square mile.
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Post by wentzler on Apr 24, 2013 6:14:19 GMT -5
Pads for wells that will support horizontal bore lines can exceed 600 hundred feet square, and most will eventually support horizontal bores. One need remember that w/o doubt the next layer down, the Utica Layer is already being eyed as well. The support network of roads is extensive, large, and adds considerably more run-off to an area already prone to erosion. There is forest fragmentation to consider as well. The Loyalsock State Forest is the well spring of some of the US's best remaining wild trout streams in the eastern US. Mutt mentions extraction radius, popular disseminated opinion held by the public does indicate a square mile, it is perhaps a bit more, perhaps significantly more, if Truth be known. depends on lease sector lines, property lines, and one he** of a lot of legalese. Then, there are the gas transmission lines. We are already seeing MILES and MILES of them, in the periphery around the LSF, for all intent and Purpose in perpetuity. One of the attributes that allows the LSF to be one of the last extensive (mostly) unbroken wildernesses in the eastern US is it's relative inaccessibilty. There is a H*** of lot more to this story...than a couple pages in either magazines of propaganda leaflets..from either 'side' of the equation. As in most cases where there are 'sides', both sides lie to the extreme, and common sense lays somewhere in the lonely middle. It's enough to say..at this juncture...I am working 'some' with both sides as well as trying to keep a major transmission line 110 feet wide from running right smack through the middle of my 333' long, 1.32 acres , smack dab in the middle of a new major channel in the flood plain of the lower 'Sock. For those really interested, this "Legislative Interest" that sparked this thread (sparked...not a good word in the Gas industry)...this is what could be called the sacrificial lamb approach. To save 'unspoiled' one significant 'chunk' of real estate...and 'sacrifice' the rest to their fates. Yep, the world needs energy. But the whole world will eventually discover, too late, we need water, air, birds, bats, bees, trout, trees and ground plants.... ...one H*** of a lot more than we need gas...or oil..or coal..or.... three billion more human beings.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 10:00:11 GMT -5
Pads for wells that will support horizontal bore lines can exceed 600 hundred feet square, and most will eventually support horizontal bores. One need remember that w/o doubt the next layer down, the Utica Layer is already being eyed as well. The support network of roads is extensive, large, and adds considerably more run-off to an area already prone to erosion. There is forest fragmentation to consider as well. The Loyalsock State Forest is the well spring of some of the US's best remaining wild trout streams in the eastern US. Mutt mentions extraction radius, popular disseminated opinion held by the public does indicate a square mile, it is perhaps a bit more, perhaps significantly more, if Truth be known. depends on lease sector lines, property lines, and one he** of a lot of legalese. Then, there are the gas transmission lines. We are already seeing MILES and MILES of them, in the periphery around the LSF, for all intent and Purpose in perpetuity. One of the attributes that allows the LSF to be one of the last extensive (mostly) unbroken wildernesses in the eastern US is it's relative inaccessibilty. There is a H*** of lot more to this story...than a couple pages in either magazines of propaganda leaflets..from either 'side' of the equation. As in most cases where there are 'sides', both sides lie to the extreme, and common sense lays somewhere in the lonely middle. It's enough to say..at this juncture...I am working 'some' with both sides as well as trying to keep a major transmission line 110 feet wide from running right smack through the middle of my 333' long, 1.32 acres , smack dab in the middle of a new major channel in the flood plain of the lower 'Sock. For those really interested, this "Legislative Interest" that sparked this thread (sparked...not a good word in the Gas industry)...this is what could be called the sacrificial lamb approach. To save 'unspoiled' one significant 'chunk' of real estate...and 'sacrifice' the rest to their fates. Yep, the world needs energy. But the whole world will eventually discover, too late, we need water, air, birds, bats, bees, trout, trees and ground plants.... ...one H*** of a lot more than we need gas...or oil..or coal..or.... three billion more human beings. Excellent post. The LSF is truly a "gem of the endless mountains". It needs saved not pillaged! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 10:04:56 GMT -5
So, why isn't there a fuss over the other state forests that have been impacted? I support drilling and I'm sure this will be done responsibly. Rendell opened a can of worms when he opened the state forests up tho, IMO. This is part of the reason, "The Loyalsock State Forest is considered by Game Commission ornithologists as one of the best forest Important Bird Areas (IBA) in Pennsylvania,” explained Zeph. |
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2013 14:41:07 GMT -5
So, why isn't there a fuss over the other state forests that have been impacted? I support drilling and I'm sure this will be done responsibly. Rendell opened a can of worms when he opened the state forests up tho, IMO. This is part of the reason, "The Loyalsock State Forest is considered by Game Commission ornithologists as one of the best forest Important Bird Areas (IBA) in Pennsylvania,” explained Zeph. Gosh Mike, yer startin' to sound like a card carrying Audabon member.  |
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Post by dalesholder on Apr 24, 2013 15:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2013 16:19:01 GMT -5
Copy the "image code" from Photobucket. Paste the image code in the reply window and it will show the pic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 16:30:26 GMT -5
Don't know if I can offer anything but, basically I am in support of the gas industry. The amount of good is far beyond anything any other industry has ever done for this area and the long term benefits seem irrefutable. It also seems that most of the claims of people's water supplies being poisoned and other threats highlighted by the Yoko Ono, Susan Sarandon crowd have been proven false or unfounded.
With exploration and processing of any resource, there is always a "downside" and the natural gas industry is no exception. The well pads can disturb as much as 4 or 5 acres. Nothing, except for surface growth, (trees, shrubs etc), is permitted to be removed from the sites. Topsoil is stripped and then piled aside, and seeded to prevent erosion and saved to be reintroduced at the end of the well-life, at which time "supposedly" the entire surface area will be restored, with maybe a valve station left in tact.
Access/egress roads can take up as much or more surface area than the actual well pad.
Some well sites, when stripped to a level bare pad, really are a shock to see in cases where you are used to seeing a tree-covered, gentle slope. Others are tremendous aesthetic improvements to otherwise not-so-pretty areas.
People here are very seriously divided on this issue. Generally, but not all, of the most negative are town people who think all landowners are going to get rich.
Some pads are quite large if they determine they benefit by can drilling multiple wells from a single pad. A lot has to do with conditions added to each lease. I elected the "right of refusal" of location if they were to drill here, I can reject the first two choices of location but have to accept the third. My buddy has a "no surface disturbance" clause, in which they can drill beneath but cannot trek on his land.
There are lots of complaints about pipelines criss-crossing the hills and fields.
I looked at things in "comparisons." The power companies ran lines all over the place and that was ok. Their power lines, from an appearance and maintenance perspective, are not nearly as well-done as the gas pipelines. Plus, a field can be replanted in crops, over a pipeline.
Personally I try to base my position on a risk vs reward criteria. All-in-all I see a resource that benefits most people in our country being harvested in an extremely well-monitored and controlled industry. Local charities, social and beneficial orgs, schools, fire companies, libraries etc. benefit tremendously.
As for State Forests Lands?
Roads are edge habitat and create diversity, but there is no denying some land is lost to wildlife and, at least temporarily, there will be serious disturbance.
I'd rather see pristine lands left to be pristine but piping networks for market distribution make the most sense only if they connect "all the dots."
Those SFL's are right in the middle of the best "dots." Should they sacrifice an entire region to avoid a SFL right in the middle? In truth, while I believe gas drilling would be sensitive to preservation of scenic and bio-valued areas, I'd rather see those lands left as designated.
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Post by dalesholder on Apr 24, 2013 18:11:30 GMT -5
While i understand the need for drilling and what benefits it brings I also see the downside to it. Read all the reports in the papers here of mishaps and spills. Sorry the Rock Run headwaters and watershed doesnt need any of that. Other places to drill nothing wrong with leaving some places untouched.
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Post by dalesholder on Apr 24, 2013 18:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by dalesholder on Apr 24, 2013 18:21:35 GMT -5
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Post by acorn20 on Apr 24, 2013 20:27:48 GMT -5
Nice pictures of the area Dale. Say, is that "little" Cory beside you in that picture of a doe?
Dan
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Post by dalesholder on Apr 25, 2013 4:44:08 GMT -5
Yes thats little Cory Dan. LOL I cant recall when he was ever little tho.
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Post by wentzler on Apr 25, 2013 6:24:49 GMT -5
There are always alternatives, and alternatives to alternatives. Many of those are already being examined very closely. As with any decision making process(es)....it really helps if ALL the facts are known. It also helps to keep one's nose in the books, research, and into the wind, so to speak. When first approached for a 'gas rights' lease arrangement, I re-wrote pretty much the whole of the proffered 'standard rights lease agreement'. I also managed to secure several neighbors' commitments to 'hang tight' with me in one very significant 'addendum' to the agreement. One very similar to that which allows us to even be discussing the LSF as a possible 'set-aside'. That addendum specific stipulates absolutely NO surface incursion w/o my/our witnessed signatures. That includes walking across the property(ies). That addendum is also what will/is going to provide at least some measure or provision to 're-negotiate'...if that right of way for a major transmission line (taking one third of my property) is pursued. It's real easy to see the gas industry as a good thing for Pennsylvania....if there isn't a well pad three hundred feet from your house, or a pipeline within a hundred feet of it. It's kinda like landfills or toxic waste sites...it's all fine and good...as long as it's not in your backyard. Bottom line, there never has been an 'exploitation' of natural resources that has not resulted in a significant degradation of the planet. Two generations later (if that) nobody alive even remembers what things once were, which means things must be OK as they 'are now'  ? The Earth is a SINGLE living organism, and right now it has a very serious pathological infection, which most likely will be fatal. Anybody care to guess??? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 8:44:03 GMT -5
While I've already stated that I'd rather see SFLs stay as designated, I also want to see common sense approaches to private land exploration and resource processing.
I'm among the "older" of this crowd and I certainly recall seeing coal-stripped lands in the 50's in Sullivan and other nearby counties, with huge spoil banks --- some still glaringly evident today!
I've seen pictures of entire mountains, (Bear mountain, along rte 87 between Forksville and Hillsgrove), that were stripped to the rocks of trees.
My argument in favor of drilling is that, while like any industry, there certainly are "mishaps" they are miniscule in number and impact, compared to our everyday acceptance of poor farming methods and destruction on a personal level of that which impacts us!
I get so frustrated with neighbors who focus on that "which is new" to them and overlook the bigger monsters in their backyards.
There is a local yaehoo who constantly makes public idiotic claims and doomsday predictions about gas drilling. I talked with a female member of his cult who was nearly in tears claiming the loss of our "scenic farms and hillsides" in my particular township. She wanted to impress on me that she knew my area, (the gas drilling center of the county right now), and thus establish that I was living beside and accepting complete destruction.
When I asked her about the 4 illegal junk yards on the road she mentioned driving frequently, she could not recall seeing them --- hundreds, if not thousands, of vehicles strewn across the "scenic hillsides."
She also wasn't aware of two farms that were finally cited, (after many years), of barnyard run-off into feeder streams.
Nor did she know of the woodlot dumps with all manner of old drums and paint containers.
My position is to make "honest" and non-partisan comparisons and fight enemies that truly are the enemies based on proof and without selective discrimination.
Most "environmentalists or conservationists don't want to do that, they want to take the easy shots.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 9:05:03 GMT -5
There are always alternatives, and alternatives to alternatives. Many of those are already being examined very closely. As with any decision making process(es)....it really helps if ALL the facts are known. It also helps to keep one's nose in the books, research, and into the wind, so to speak. When first approached for a 'gas rights' lease arrangement, I re-wrote pretty much the whole of the proffered 'standard rights lease agreement'. I also managed to secure several neighbors' commitments to 'hang tight' with me in one very significant 'addendum' to the agreement. One very similar to that which allows us to even be discussing the LSF as a possible 'set-aside'. That addendum specific stipulates absolutely NO surface incursion w/o my/our witnessed signatures. That includes walking across the property(ies). That addendum is also what will/is going to provide at least some measure or provision to 're-negotiate'...if that right of way for a major transmission line (taking one third of my property) is pursued. It's real easy to see the gas industry as a good thing for Pennsylvania....if there isn't a well pad three hundred feet from your house, or a pipeline within a hundred feet of it. It's kinda like landfills or toxic waste sites...it's all fine and good...as long as it's not in your backyard. Bottom line, there never has been an 'exploitation' of natural resources that has not resulted in a significant degradation of the planet. Two generations later (if that) nobody alive even remembers what things once were, which means things must be OK as they 'are now' ? The Earth is a SINGLE living organism, and right now it has a very serious pathological infection, which most likely will be fatal. Anybody care to guess??? Spot on. Our camp is in Hillsgrove and this issue is close to my heart. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 16:52:11 GMT -5
It's good to know this issue is close to the hearts of many.
I hope that "closeness" causes a thirst for knowledge and a resistance to fear mongering. I don't know what significant degradation Ed is alluding to or even if he is predicting that to be the case with the gas industry.
But, from where I stand, there are more junk yards, poor farming practices and other "accepted" degradation that gets zero mention.
There have been over a million wells fracked to date and to quote John Hanger, former Secretary of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection, "It's our experience in Pennsylvania that we have not had one case in which fluids used to break off the gas from 5,000 to 8,000 feet underground have returned to contaminate ground water." Not one single case!.
I'm telling ya, there are monsters out there gettin a free pass because enviro-warriors see an easy target and don't think beyond their means.
But when we do the math we actually see an industry that is only second in regulatory oversight to the nuclear power industry.
You also see an industry that ranks number one in benevolent citizenship and social responsibility.
Problems - mishaps? Only a complete fool would consider that any endeavor, no matter how insignificant, could progress while being problem free. There will be mishaps but what about the mishaps that are already here in a constant existence? Where is the proactive crowd crying for controls, oversight and remediation?
I don't have a well and have yet to receive a royalty check but my local fire company, local library, every local church and school, every business and benevolent organization has benefited and become stronger. Not to mention individual financial security for many farmers who were borderline.
I'll wait patiently for the list of other industries that have been so regulated with so much accountability and oversight, while doing so much for each community they touch.....?
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Post by Bill on Apr 25, 2013 19:01:15 GMT -5
I believe the natural gas boom is doing good things for our economy BUT at the same time do we really need to leave no rock unturned? Shouldn't we have SOME places that are left pristine?
Somehow I have a feeling that down the road years from now that the excessiveness might come back to bite us in some way, shape, or form. Now I don't know what it will be, but gluttony in anything never ends well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 8:58:34 GMT -5
I believe the natural gas boom is doing good things for our economy BUT at the same time do we really need to leave no rock unturned? Shouldn't we have SOME places that are left pristine? Somehow I have a feeling that down the road years from now that the excessiveness might come back to bite us in some way, shape, or form. Now I don't know what it will be, but gluttony in anything never ends well. Well said. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 8:45:53 GMT -5
It seems we are all on the same page in wanting pristine, public lands left for their designated purpose. I see a lot of concern expressed using those terms like; "excessiveness," and "degradation." I've had numerous discussions about the fear factor with like-minded friends in our area and I've come to believe it is human nature to be concerned over something unknown. Actual case history of "mishaps" certainly does not support the level of concern shown by some. My buddy Sam who lives about three miles from me was whining about a water separator on a local well pad. The separator was the only object to be seen from the roadway and it showed a new, painted and labeled cylindrical tank, 12' across by maybe 18 - 20' high. He commented on the ugliness against the skyline. At the time we were standing in my wife's uncles barn entryway. I asked him how he felt about the old, rusted, silo behind us that stood up 65' and had a variety of junk piled around the base of it. His comment? "We need milk." It is that rationale that befuddles me. There is 100 times more "mishaps" and landscape-altering processes going on with electric companies, farming, junk collecting, saw mills ans dozens of other enterprises, legal and illegal. No industry stands as responsible and reactive to remediate problems as the gas industry but yet people look past, over and around every other known offender to express fear about the most responsible tenants of our earth. Muttley invited my comment here and I hope rather than look like a gas groupie, that I have encourage some to really learn the details.....not about money, but about stewardship. |
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Post by TusseyMtman on Apr 27, 2013 9:19:13 GMT -5
The DCNR should work Anadarko as hard as possible in this situation. The surface rights clause in the deed gives the DCNR lots of power, in this case.
Being a private sector capitalist who has made his living owning a business for 15 years, I certainly do not believe in interfering with anybody else trying to do the same.
However, I also can see what has happened here in PA. The gas companies have come in and paid large sums of $$$ to Corbett and other politicians. In return, the DEP and DCNR have basically been turned into gas drilling promotion agencies. That is WRONG. These agencies should be focused on protecting PA.
The Corbett admin should tell Anadarko they can drill there. They also should tell them we are going to tell you where the pads and roads go. And, you are going to give us a bunch of land and $$$ in return.
Do I expect this? No. But, with enough pressure, Corbett may be forced to do the right thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 11:41:08 GMT -5
Tusseyman, those are the kind of allegations I'm can't find factual existence of and I don't understand at all. Can you verify any political corruption or misdeeds?
The NG industry was here and in state-owned lands long before Corbett went into office.
Every major business that comes to Pennsylvania receives incentives to operate here and boost the economy. To my knowledge the gas industry is "THE ONLY" major industry that has been "PENALIZED" with excessive tax, (impact fees), after rebuilding every road and infrastructure they use in the process of increasing our economic stability by billions of dollars.
The money the NG pays out to private land owners, as well as municipalities is completely and absolutely determined by the partners in those individual contract negotiations.
Previous owners of most of my land had the foresight in the 60's to hold onto mineral rights.
Ya know what --- I applaud them for that wisdom. But the green-eyed monster is everywhere these days. Some of those who have little or no land, and don't have businesses that directly benefit from NG industry are running around like spoiled rejected cheerleaders claiming the world will end soon.
What's ironic is no one is whining about the officials in Philly and Pittsburg that think I should send them a portion of my gas check< (in addition to normal taxes), if I ever were to get one!
As for "government" determining drilling locations --- that's scary!
Pads are engineered in precise degrees of size and angularity that is determined, in part, by geological formation and character. Many things go into making the decisions on where to begin a checkerboard of gas pads. Pipelines must also be practical in geometric patterns to connect well-to-well and then terminate into a main transfer system.
I think Hollywood and greed and envy have a lot to do with "the facts" of wrongdoing......?
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Post by bud16057 on Apr 28, 2013 8:52:39 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd say any of the state agency's are promoting the gas drilling business. In the last few months in my line of work the pad construction has slowed up a good bit, when I asked one of the contractors who had building them why they weren't buying material, his reply is that the permit process is taking longer and are starting to get harder to obtain.
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