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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 12:19:56 GMT -5
The truly despicable part is lying about your full intentions to even get them included as hunting arms. . Since you didn't quote me, are you accusing me of lying? Or, are you gonna go off about me asking you a question after you, in a sly manner, bait the hook with that accusation but don't quote the person who you are referring to. And, by the way, they are hunting arms. Despite your claims they are not good for hunters or hunting, they have been embraced and accepted as hunting arms in the majority of the nation.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 12:32:53 GMT -5
They are hunting arms if you are bunting people, which is exactly what they are designed and built for,that is an undeniable fact.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 23, 2014 12:44:31 GMT -5
I've seen pics of people in Colorado using them on elk.
If not mistaken, they are legal in West Virginia, as when I hunted there, semi's were used, unless the locals paid no attention to the game laws.....
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 12:48:36 GMT -5
They are hunting arms if you are bunting people, which is exactly what they are designed and built for,that is an undeniable fact. Wrong. I am quite confident in saying the BAR and 7600 were designed and built to hunt big game. The Rock River Fred Eichler was designed and built to hunt coyotes. The Remington 700 police was designed and built as a swat rifle to kill people but it can also be used quite effectively to hunt deer.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 12:55:42 GMT -5
I've seen pics of people in Colorado using them on elk. If not mistaken, they are legal in West Virginia, as when I hunted there, semi's were used, unless the locals paid no attention to the game laws..... Legal. Even in Michigan where hunter numbers are close to ours and the terrain is much flatter.
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Post by GlennD on Apr 23, 2014 12:59:11 GMT -5
Its evolution of firearms. Virtually any weapon being used by hunters today started out as military weapons designed to kill people. Even the traditional flintlock crowd is using a weapon that was used to kill people. Following some folks logic, flintlocks should be barred. :/
The discussion has taken a turn that reminds me of a well known gun writer who a couple.years back denounced AR type weapons for hunding. After a firestorm of criticism, and being fired from his job, he went and shot one of the AR type rifles and discovered he liked it. It took a good PR campaign and a sincere apology to the shooters and hunting community to restore his credibility. Can you name this fella?
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Post by dougell on Apr 23, 2014 13:01:52 GMT -5
Jim Carmichael.His comments didn't bother me nearly as much as those tumble weeds growing out of his ears though lol.Seriously man,trim the ears.
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Post by dougell on Apr 23, 2014 13:05:12 GMT -5
I would have zero interest in owning one or using one to hunt with.It's basically how I feel about crossbows but I could care less who uses one.Dead is dead.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 13:18:17 GMT -5
Jim Zumbo, actually. The guy did have some Boone and Crockett ear hair!
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 13:32:42 GMT -5
Its evolution of firearms. Virtually any weapon being used by hunters today started out as military weapons designed to kill people. Even the traditional flintlock crowd is using a weapon that was used to kill people. Following some folks logic, flintlocks should be barred. :/ Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using proboards Those evil flintlocks. Weapons of war they are.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 13:49:57 GMT -5
Go to any public range this week end and watch the show, its not the weapons that I'm against.
Its like we are in search for the lowest common denominator in our quest to increase our numbers.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 14:12:22 GMT -5
Go to any public range this week end and watch the show, its not the weapons that I'm against. s. Really. You said several times semis were designed to kill people and are not sporting arms in any way. You can see the same "show" watching folks throwing clays in their back yard and emptying the magazine of their 11/87s. Ban em I say!
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 14:18:51 GMT -5
I liked you boys better when skate boards and baggy pants kept you happy, my truck wasn't that nice so the dents didn't bother me, then you jumped to Xboxs and pretend killing of people and blowing stuff up, now with tannerite and AKs you wanna play war in the real world, I don't see the need, its not a game to me.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 14:24:45 GMT -5
And it wouldn't be to the 90% of those that would choose to use a semi for hunting. The other 10% are already out there taking bad shots and making poor decisions with what is already legal.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 14:26:30 GMT -5
Maybe a reminder that we mare talking groundhogs, coyotes and foxes. Yep, them gang bangers with the saggy pants are surely interested in that!
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 14:35:21 GMT -5
Maybe a reminder that we mare talking groundhogs, coyotes and foxes. Yep, them gang bangers with the saggy pants are surely interested in that! That's just the beginning of the lie, every one knows just mentioning deer is a death wish.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 14:46:44 GMT -5
I support hunters being able to choose to hunt with whatever legal firearm they wish and for all Americans to be able to own and use all legal firearms for all of thier intended purposes.
This bill would not legalize them for deer but I would support a bill that did. Actually, I would like to see the regulatory authority just transferred to the PGC and let them make the decision.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 15:05:01 GMT -5
And I wouldn't!
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 15:20:49 GMT -5
Another reminder that semi autos for big game are already legal for deer and have been for a long time in our most heavily hunted and populated areas of the state and it is a non issue.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 17:05:06 GMT -5
Another reminder that semi autos for big game are already legal for deer and have been for a long time in our most heavily hunted and populated areas of the state and it is a non issue. Then hunt there.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 17:29:41 GMT -5
Another reminder that semi autos for big game are already legal for deer and have been for a long time in our most heavily hunted and populated areas of the state and it is a non issue. Then hunt there. I do and I don't use a semi. Most don't use them either. Just as most would not outside of the SRA if they were legalized.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 18:36:03 GMT -5
Since so few would be affected it seems stupid to draw the ire of so many to appease a few.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 18:51:42 GMT -5
Since so few would be affected it seems stupid to draw the ire of so many to appease a few. Kinda like Sunday hunting, huh? Proven to be a non issue yet you wish to keep from drawing the ire of the boogeyman in the closet. It is quite apparent in my discussions with folks about this issue that more hunters support this now than in the very recent past. Every hunter would have a choice, no? We sell close to 900,000 licenses and all would be free to take partake or not. So, it indeed does affect more than a few in very positive ways. Choice is always a good thing. Sure some non hunters would wave the safety flag along with a few hunters but there are plenty of facts to dispute the concerns.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 23, 2014 19:06:17 GMT -5
I just don't believe that you've found a proper whine to go with your blue cheese, some us get up look out the window and say, its going to be a great day, then there's those with your mind set.
For the life of me I don't understand why playing the victim is so appealing to you, life is good!
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2014 19:38:19 GMT -5
For the life of me I don't understand why playing the victim is so appealing to you, life is good! Life is good. I don't feel like a victim here. Just not one to sit around and let the winds of the world push me where someone else wants me to go. If my actions don't effect yours, enjoy your life as you wish to without worrying so much about what others are doing with theirs. You can hunt deer with your model 99 on Saturday while I will hunt with my 45/70. Maybe on Sunday I will take the 10/22 on a walk for squirrels some day. None of it affects you. When it comes to self protection you sure sing a different tune. If we lost those rights would you be playing the victim as well or is playing a victim just reserved for others? You get fired up in the political forum at times. Life is good and too short to worry about stuff like that.....
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