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Post by dougl on Dec 29, 2021 11:50:19 GMT -5
Offering amazing arrow speeds with pinpoint accuracy, the Ravin® Crossbow R500 Sniper Crossbow Package gives crossbow hunters amazing long-distance capability. One of the fastest, most accurate, and compact designs ever offered by Ravin, the R500 uses the new HexCoil® Cam System to rocket arrows downrange up to 500 fps with a big game-dropping 222 ft. lbs. of energy! Allowing the cams to rotate a full 360°, this advanced powerplant delivers huge power and advanced accuracy from a design that measures just 3.6" from axle to axle when cocked. The Sniper package pairs this powerful design with an easy-adjusting, single reticle Adjustable Turret Scope, Scope Level, and premium arrows for perfectly balanced shots on short- or long-distance shots. This extreme-performance design also features a silent VersaDrive Cocking System, which uses an internal screw drive to move the proven Trac Trigger Firing System for easy cocking and decocking. This advanced cocking system features an internal clutch to prevent over-cocking, and reduces the felt draw weight to just 17 lbs. 8.4-lb. crossbow comes fully assembled and pre-tuned and features an advanced trigger system with automatic safety and anti-dry fire technologies. Built-in sling mounts. Draw Weight: 300 lbs. Power Stroke: 15". Overall Length: 28". Package includes: Adjustable Turret Scope, quiver with mounting bracket, six .001 arrows with field points, and removable cocking handle.
Manufacturer model #: R051.
Innovative R500 crossbow built for extreme distance performance
Advanced HexCoil Cam System - blazing speeds with amazing accuracy
Big power - 500 fps with 222 ft. lbs. of energy
Comes with easy-adjusting Adjustable Turret Scope, Scope Level, and premium arrows
Compact - just 3.6" from axle to axle when cocked
Silent VersaDrive Cocking System - silently cocks or de-cocks, felt draw weight of 17 lbs.
Internal clutch - prevents overcocking
Trac-Trigger Firing System - improved accuracy
Advanced trigger system with automatic safety and anti-dry fire technologies
Fully assembled and pre-tuned
Package includes: Adjustable Turret Scope, quiver with mounting bracket, six .001 arrows with field points, and removable cocking handle
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 29, 2021 12:40:41 GMT -5
We should have stuck to stickbows and loin cloths. Them damn folks that decided to use training wheels on their bows ruined the sport and decimated the deer population...........
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Post by dougl on Dec 29, 2021 12:43:23 GMT -5
There should be a limit Gene and we're way past that now.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Dec 29, 2021 17:10:00 GMT -5
With numbers like that from a X bow, there’s no reason why flintlock rifles with open sights shouldn’t be allowed in archery season. That X bow has nearly the same range, can be reloaded quicker, and is more dependable, especially in wet weather than any flintlock.
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Post by Dutch on Dec 29, 2021 17:28:45 GMT -5
The limit is how thick your wallet is.
Guessing this one is $4000??
I just want a narrow crossbow. Don't need speed, etc
I hate hunting with a crossbow
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Post by Dutch on Dec 29, 2021 17:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by bushmaster on Dec 29, 2021 17:32:55 GMT -5
The limit is how thick your wallet is. Guessing this one is $4000?? I just want a narrow crossbow. Don't need speed, etc I hate hunting with a crossbow I kind of liked hunting with a crossbow this season. Weird but true, coming from an avid traditional bow hunter. |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Dec 29, 2021 17:36:49 GMT -5
The limit is how thick your wallet is. Guessing this one is $4000?? I just want a narrow crossbow. Don't need speed, etc I hate hunting with a crossbow I agree about the crossbow, I have one and hate it. I also stand behind what I said, time to open up the early easy season to flintlock. |
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Post by Loggy on Dec 29, 2021 17:39:13 GMT -5
I agree with Doug that things are starting to get out of hand. With today's ever advancing technology...we're likely just at the beginning.  IMO......elimination of xbow scopes would go a long way in bringing more of an acceptable nexus between the vertical & horizontal archery equipment allowed in PA's Archery Season. |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 29, 2021 18:22:54 GMT -5
The limit is how thick your wallet is. Guessing this one is $4000?? I just want a narrow crossbow. Don't need speed, etc I hate hunting with a crossbow I kind of liked hunting with a crossbow this season. Weird but true, coming from an avid traditional bow hunter. I'm coming from the angle that they are unwieldy and cumbersome. |
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Post by davet on Dec 30, 2021 7:44:20 GMT -5
I've hunted with traditional, compound, and now crossbows. I've always stated that it's easier to hunt with a compound than a crossbow. If I could hold steady on the draw I'd always hunt with a compound.....but not anymore. The strength of my left arm is just not enough to hold the pin on the target without wavering. All that does is wound 'em.
The compound is lighter, easier to manipulate, and under the right circumstances, may give you a second shot when that first one hit the little branch you didn't see.
FWIW
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 30, 2021 7:51:17 GMT -5
IMO......elimination of xbow scopes would go a long way in bringing more of an acceptable nexus between the vertical & horizontal archery equipment allowed in PA's Archery Season. Not that I would support it, but a zero magnification requirement on optics is certainly more practical than requiring pin and peep type sites. |
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Post by Loggy on Dec 30, 2021 8:06:49 GMT -5
IMO......elimination of xbow scopes would go a long way in bringing more of an acceptable nexus between the vertical & horizontal archery equipment allowed in PA's Archery Season. Not that I would support it, but a zero magnification requirement on optics is certainly more practical than requiring pin and peep type sites. Haven't reviewed archery equipment regs for a number of years. Are magnifying scopes now allowed on vertical bows as they are on crossbows?? |
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Post by dougl on Dec 30, 2021 9:11:41 GMT -5
They are legal Loggy but I don't know a single hunter who uses one and I don't know a single person who doesn't use one on a crossbow.I'm not anti-crossbow in any way.I support their use and I don't look down at anyone who uses one.I do however think there should be a limit on the technology and I would support equal restrictions on compounds as well.
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Post by Loggy on Dec 30, 2021 9:18:55 GMT -5
I agree Doug. I had no idea on how far things have gone until you posted this thread!! Hell...mebbie I shoulda bought a Ravin R500 instead of my Browning X-Bolt 6.5!! Coulda "killed 2 birds with one stone" as they say!!  |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 30, 2021 9:19:29 GMT -5
Haven't reviewed archery equipment regs for a number of years. Are magnifying scopes now allowed on vertical bows as they are on crossbows?? They are legal. Few use them though. Garmin and Burris both now have laser rangefinding non magnified optics for compound bows available. They have glass but non magnified. |
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Post by fleroo on Dec 30, 2021 9:20:18 GMT -5
BITE YOUR TONGUE !  You flnter guys can search out what's left of OUR hammers, slammers, toads and frogs, AFTER our SEVEN (7) week, early, rut-filled, moderately-weathered season. Say what ? You flinters didn't mind letting us archers hunt the late season with you ? Well, WE'RE ARCHERS ! We're special like that. Just ask the BOC.  |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 30, 2021 9:21:30 GMT -5
The Ravin R500 has been very problematic. Its release was delayed 7 months and it just became available. Every user that I am aware of has either had to send it back, or had new parts shipped to them.
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Post by cspot on Dec 30, 2021 11:28:54 GMT -5
They are legal Loggy but I don't know a single hunter who uses one and I don't know a single person who doesn't use one on a crossbow.I'm not anti-crossbow in any way.I support their use and I don't look down at anyone who uses one.I do however think there should be a limit on the technology and I would support equal restrictions on compounds as well. Compounds have come a long way as well. I don't see there ever being restrictions on either though unless hunter numbers start going up considerably. Game agencies are going to have difficulty in getting the deer kill they desire in the near future. Just like with anything else it will be up to the user how much technology that they want to use. |
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Post by cspot on Dec 30, 2021 11:30:21 GMT -5
The Ravin R500 has been very problematic. Its release was delayed 7 months and it just became available. Every user that I am aware of has either had to send it back, or had new parts shipped to them. The other thing about these fast narrow bows (from what I have seen and heard) is that they are very difficult on strings. How many shots are you likely to get out of a set a strings? The maintenance cost you a fortune as well. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 30, 2021 11:43:01 GMT -5
The other thing about these fast narrow bows (from what I have seen and heard) is that they are very difficult on strings. How many shots are you likely to get out of a set a strings? The maintenance cost you a fortune as well. Yep. I am a low maintenance type of guy. I am going the other direction. I want slower and wider than many of the newer bows out there. |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 30, 2021 12:43:52 GMT -5
The other thing about these fast narrow bows (from what I have seen and heard) is that they are very difficult on strings. How many shots are you likely to get out of a set a strings? The maintenance cost you a fortune as well. Yep. I am a low maintenance type of guy. I am going the other direction. I want slower and wider than many of the newer bows out there. Sooooo.....just another way of saying yer cheap. 😂 |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 30, 2021 12:54:52 GMT -5
Yep. I am a low maintenance type of guy. I am going the other direction. I want slower and wider than many of the newer bows out there. Sooooo.....just another way of saying yer cheap. 😂 Some would say that, lol. |
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Post by dougl on Dec 30, 2021 13:43:43 GMT -5
The Ravin R500 has been very problematic. Its release was delayed 7 months and it just became available. Every user that I am aware of has either had to send it back, or had new parts shipped to them. The other thing about these fast narrow bows (from what I have seen and heard) is that they are very difficult on strings. How many shots are you likely to get out of a set a strings? The maintenance cost you a fortune as well. In 1997 I bought a Mathews feathermax.It was way lighter than my current bow,quiet and shot 290 fps.I'm not sure if I ever missed a deer with that bow.My current bow is a Mathews VXR.It's way heavier,a little quieter,alot less hand shock but it's shooting 305fps,not that big of a difference.My range and my effectiveness hasn't increased one bit.My 3D scores are still within a few points of what they always were.What has changed is the quality of string materials,arrows and rests.String stretch is a thing of the past once you break them in,peep rotation is not a problem anymore and the rests really allow you to tune for perfect BH flight. There's no doubt that a 500 fps crossbow coming out of the gate will have tech issues just as the ones did that shot 400 fps.I was told that would be the upper limit and few hunters would use them.That was nonsense.I have no issue with crossbows but there has to be a limit. |
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Post by dougl on Dec 30, 2021 13:48:30 GMT -5
I agree Doug. I had no idea on how far things have gone until you posted this thread!! Hell...mebbie I shoulda bought a Ravin R500 instead of my Browning X-Bolt 6.5!! Coulda "killed 2 birds with one stone" as they say!! My biggest hang up with full inclusion was the fact that the technology was in it's infancy.I probably would have supported inclusion back then if they put limits on them from the start.The original proposal was to not allow scopes but that was overturned.I was told that crossbows were pretty much tapped out lol.Yeah,200 fps later and still climbing.You don't need a rangefinding scope and 500fps to kill deer at 30 yards. |
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You flnter guys can search out what's left of OUR hammers, slammers, toads and frogs, AFTER our SEVEN (7) week, early, rut-filled, moderately-weathered season. Say what ? You flinters didn't mind letting us archers hunt the late season with you ? Well, WE'RE ARCHERS ! We're special like that. Just ask the BOC. 
