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Post by Bill on Dec 8, 2016 21:34:53 GMT -5
That is the ad campaign for the new Ravin crossbow. lol Three inch groups at 100 yards. I'm sure that will go over well with the anti-crossbow crowd. smileys-whistling-823718
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Post by cspot on Dec 8, 2016 21:38:03 GMT -5
Yea. I think they are about $1500 so I don't think many will be running out to buy one. From what I have read most are having trouble getting 3" groups at 30 with them.
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Post by Bill on Dec 8, 2016 21:39:17 GMT -5
It looks like the most maneuverable crossbow I've seen. I'm impressed by the size.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 5:36:48 GMT -5
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Post by redarrow on Dec 9, 2016 6:25:59 GMT -5
That is the ad campaign for the new Ravin crossbow. lol Three inch groups at 100 yards. I'm sure that will go over well with the anti-crossbow crowd. smileys-whistling-823718 Of course it will. It will make things so much easier. And it's all about killing a deer-not about how it is killed...... We don't need no stinking obstacles like gettin' close or drawing a bow...... Challenge, we don't need no stinking challenge. And when you guys jump all over my post, take note that the first shot was taken at the "anti-crossbow" folks
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Post by bushmaster on Dec 9, 2016 6:46:37 GMT -5
Looks like a fancy compound bow to me! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 6:59:49 GMT -5
We should outlaw all crossbows and compound bows, since they use technologies that did not exist when I started hunting in 1954. Further, since so many deer are wounded and not recovered during archery season, that season should be eliminated. Perhaps we should eliminate rifle deer season too, since one does not have to draw a rifle in the presence of game. Does that pretty much sum it up?
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Post by bowbum on Dec 9, 2016 9:22:45 GMT -5
It's been going down hill ever since that first betrayal of tradition when a rogue Indian started using a horse! Then came along synthetic bow strings, laminate bows, plastic nocks, metal points ----- boo hoo am I the only rock thrower left?
That implement looks like one hell of a cool machine. If it works as good as it looks like it should maybe I should start saving my pennies....?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 9:40:39 GMT -5
Who cares? WFC? Who really cares?
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Post by redarrow on Dec 9, 2016 18:55:30 GMT -5
Ya man, who the F cares? confused-smiley-013 A dead deer is just a dead deer. And deer hunting is nothing more than sitting in a blind, looking over a food plot, supporting the weapon on a rest of some type, resting the cross hairs on the target, and squeezing the trigger. Very appealing to the most seasoned outdoorsman. Why should anyone care to learn about how to get close enough to shoot one with a bow while it moves to or from a bedding area. What the Sam Heck is an acorn, and what would it have to do with a deer.
And anyone who actually believes more deer are unrecovered after being hit by archers than rifle hunters, really has no clue. I have trapped for about 40nyears. In that time I have found dozens of dead deer along the streams when I run a water line. I have found a few when trapping after archery season going for 'coon, muskrat, and mink. I have found many times more after rifle season when trapping for the same critters and beaver. I am sure some of each groups have died from other causes too. But the number of rifle hunters compared to archers alone should give one a hint that more die from bullets than arrows.
A hundred yard weapon during archery season is great. Maybe it will make up for even more of the skills lacking in the hunters new to archery. I would think that the increase in the number of hunters, and the ease with which success is attained,the archery season will have to be shortened. Or, just make it a free for all and combine the weapons in a two or three week season. Some will still complain that somehow things are still to tough for them.
Challenge? We don't want no stinking challenge! coffeespit
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Post by davet on Dec 9, 2016 19:52:37 GMT -5
I think all hunters should be required to use Toyota trucks. Period.
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Post by Bill on Dec 9, 2016 20:41:25 GMT -5
Who cares? WFC? Who really cares? Maybe Ted Cruz cares? IDK
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 15:17:47 GMT -5
I'm only concerned about doing it my way. I no longer am concerned about what anyone uses, it has no affect on the outcome of my hunt.
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Post by davet on Dec 13, 2016 15:29:47 GMT -5
Who cares? WFC? Who really cares? WFC.....Does that mean "Winchester Fire Center"? Or did you type in incorrectly and really want to say "WCF"? Which means "Winchester Center Fire". Which then I would take your statement to mean you only support the lever action rifle in the caliber of WCF aka 30-30 for deer or bear hunting. Is that what I get from your post?
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Post by bowbum on Dec 13, 2016 15:35:34 GMT -5
I think all hunters should be required to use Toyota trucks. Period. I'm already there.
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 13, 2016 16:10:25 GMT -5
And when you guys jump all over my post, take note that the first shot was taken at the "anti-crossbow" folks You are anti crossbow so why is it a shot to refer to someone as anti crossbow. I am anti abortion. Is that a shot at me if someone refers to me as that? Nope!
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 13, 2016 16:12:21 GMT -5
Of course it will. It will make things so much easier. And it's all about killing a deer-not about how it is killed...... We don't need no stinking obstacles like gettin' close or drawing a bow...... Challenge, we don't need no stinking challenge. Crossbows shooting much faster than the Raven have been around for a dozen years. Recently released data from Ohio still shows that hits, misses, and success rates are within 2-3% between crossbows and compound bows.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 16:41:24 GMT -5
Who cares? WFC? Who really cares? WFC.....Does that mean "Winchester Fire Center"? Or did you type in incorrectly and really want to say "WCF"? Which means "Winchester Center Fire". Which then I would take your statement to mean you only support the lever action rifle in the caliber of WCF aka 30-30 for deer or bear hunting. Is that what I get from your post? That's it, ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 13, 2016 17:59:53 GMT -5
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Post by good ole boy on Dec 13, 2016 18:16:26 GMT -5
I think all hunters should be required to use Toyota trucks. Period. Yeah so they can all have rusted frames and warped cylinder heads.All you have to do is visit Archery and Huntin sites to see how many Archery Deer go unrecovered.Sayin it ain,t no more than Rifle is a fantasy.I am a die hard Archery and Rifle hunter.
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Post by bushmaster on Dec 14, 2016 9:13:06 GMT -5
7 bucks and 4 does taken during archery season out at my club. Not 1 wounded deer, all recovered. During Rifle season 6 bucks taken and 2 does. 3 deer wounded and not recovered. Don't know if this info means anything, but it's the truth.
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Post by davet on Dec 14, 2016 9:36:53 GMT -5
I think it means your rifle guys need to spend more time on the range. Aim small, miss small.
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Post by bushmaster on Dec 14, 2016 9:41:26 GMT -5
I think it means your rifle guys need to spend more time on the range. Aim small, miss small. You could be right! The problem is a lot of these guys only come out to hunt for a few days. They don't shoot on a regular basis and most of them you don't see all year until rifle season. Most of the hard core hunters at my club shoot just about every weekend. They will wound one from time to time, it happens, but for the most part they are pretty proficient.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 9:48:34 GMT -5
I think it means your rifle guys need to spend more time on the range. Aim small, miss small. I don't have as much time to shoot at the range as I would like to have, being retired and all that.
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 14, 2016 10:06:12 GMT -5
The problem is a lot of these guys only come out to hunt for a few days. They don't shoot on a regular basis and most of them you don't see all year until rifle season. Most of the hard core hunters at my club shoot just about every weekend. They will wound one from time to time, it happens, but for the most part they are pretty proficient. Yep. Many that hunt just rifle only schedule a few days to do it. When the time comes, there is some urgency to get it done and the likelihood of a poor shot choice or poor shot placement is somewhat higher. If they wait on a better opportunity, as many that archery hunt do, not getting a deer is likely.
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