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Post by melody on May 18, 2016 10:43:38 GMT -5
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Post by GlennD on May 18, 2016 14:03:43 GMT -5
Same old opposition. But in summary maybe an opportunity for compromise. Do you think?
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Post by Dutch on May 18, 2016 14:06:45 GMT -5
Well, at the end, the senator said they wanted the groups to come to a compromise and that they don't want to force anything on anyone.
Funny tho, the Farm Bureau has always said there will be no compromise.
How do you negotiate with a "rock"?
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Post by bawanajim on May 18, 2016 14:07:24 GMT -5
The microphone is only on for the senator speaking, the rest is lip reading.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 14:15:18 GMT -5
How do you negotiate with a "rock"? Ans: You bring a BFH to the negotiation session!
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Post by Dutch on May 18, 2016 14:24:31 GMT -5
10 lb sledge Mutt.
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Post by redarrow on May 18, 2016 15:06:29 GMT -5
Well, at the end, the senator said they wanted the groups to come to a compromise and that they don't want to force anything on anyone. Funny tho, the Farm Bureau has always said there will be no compromise. How do you negotiate with a "rock"?Ask our current president.............. I think he got so fed up with trying that he is spending his last year in office doing things soley to tick off anyone who isn't like himself and his family. (I hate to think of the coverage that family will get when this term is over .) I see no way there can be any compromise that does not lead to Sunday deer hunting. I doubt more than a few percent of the supporters are not most concerned about deer.
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Post by dennyf on May 18, 2016 16:50:25 GMT -5
I'm not "in it" for deer, never was.
But have noticed over the years that the same people that always seem to be whining about "not enough deer" - often seem to be the same people opposed to more SH in PA. Just a coincidence, apparently?
Sundays at deer camp in my case, are for pestering local relatives, managing to "drop in" around dinner time and BSing with neighbors and friends. Have always supported the opening of some Sundays that follow a Saturday season opener, like small game and turkey seasons, for example.
Because when I've driven 3+ hours to get to camp to hunt for a Saturday opener, it would be mighty nice to be able to also hunt a bit the next morning, before heading home again. There are tens of thousands of other hunters that head to camps for such season openers in PA. Retired now, can go to camp when I want to. Those still working and with kids, not so lucky.
I also support additional SH for the opportunities it brings to those in need of them, like people who work Saturdays, kids that don't have many Saturdays to hunt due to sports, band and other school activities. Don't really care if they hunt deer or anything else, of a Sunday? Anyone that doesn't want to hunt on a Sunday, won't have to.
Bottom line, additional SH WORKS nearly everywhere else BUT for PA, despite the same objections often being raised in those states, as we hear now in PA. As I have said repeatedly over many years, there really is no legitimate reason not to have some additional SH in PA.
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Post by Dutch on May 18, 2016 19:23:30 GMT -5
Sunday hunting has never been repealed in any state.
Wonder why?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:48:54 GMT -5
It's a non issue. Some want to make it more then it has to be. No different then any other day. Many people work Sundays today.
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Post by cspot on May 18, 2016 19:52:57 GMT -5
Sunday hunting has never been repealed in any state. Wonder why? You forgot that PA is different than every other state in the country. smileys-whistling-823718
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Post by Dutch on May 18, 2016 19:53:46 GMT -5
OMG Cspot, I did!
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Post by cspot on May 18, 2016 19:54:04 GMT -5
Doubt that this goes anywhere just as it always has. It is a shame. I would really like to see a bill to legalize for all animals except for big game. I think that would stand a good chance of getting passed.
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Post by redarrow on May 18, 2016 20:14:40 GMT -5
How long do you think that would that last, cspot? If there is one thing most hunters in PA are experts at, it's whining and moaning about how much our regulations suck. I can guess what the next complaints will be when even adding several weekend days doesn't get some guys a deer.
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Post by Dutch on May 18, 2016 20:22:29 GMT -5
I was impressed with the representatives of PFSC and USP.
The guy from the NRA, as in the past, was less than stellar.
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Post by cspot on May 18, 2016 20:24:21 GMT -5
How long do you think that would that last, cspot? If there is one thing most hunters in PA are experts at, it's whining and moaning about how much our regulations suck. I can guess what the next complaints will be when even adding several weekend days doesn't get some guys a deer. It might not last long as all the negative Nancy's would see that the sky didn't fall. Hunters in very state are vocal about changing regulations. PA is no different. Seems to me that most of the guys on here that are in support have no issue filling tags without Sundays. For me Sunday Hunting has nothing to do with deer. Legalize everything else and I would be happy. Actually with a camp in Ohio now, Sunday Hunting in PA isn't as big of deal to me. Was doing some looking at seasons and I saw that Ohio's squirrel season comes in Sept 1. Of course Ohio is way different than PA.
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Post by Dutch on May 18, 2016 20:30:45 GMT -5
Our Commissioners voted AGAINST an earlier opener for squirrels!
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Post by cspot on May 18, 2016 20:51:58 GMT -5
Our Commissioners voted AGAINST an earlier opener for squirrels! Yep. It would never work in PA.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 5:59:10 GMT -5
From what I see at home and up at my camp. It doesn't take the deer herd long to rebound. Seeing lots of deer sign and deer.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 6:29:40 GMT -5
I would be satisfied to see, as a good start, one single Sunday added to hunting season, that being the day after the Saturday opener for bear season. Failing that, go back to opening bear season on the Monday before Thanksgiving. Opening the season on Saturday makes absolutely no sense at all unless you can hunt the next day. Once those against Sunday hunting for whatever reason saw how much that improved bear season, some of the negative vibes would disappear. Most of the non-religious objections to Sunday hunting revolve around wanting more deer, but the deer harvest is controlled by the number of antlerless tags issued, not the number of days available to hunt. The issue of a horribly increased harvest if a Sunday was available to hunt is a red herring.
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Post by davet on May 19, 2016 6:38:45 GMT -5
Gents......Sunday hunting is like allowing electric modified carts on public lands. Four thousand reasons....all of which are made up, will be found and not one of them will be "actual and factual". It's old school thinking and it's difficult to change.
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Post by ridgecommander on May 19, 2016 7:11:27 GMT -5
If there is one thing most hunters in PA are experts at, it's whining and moaning about how much our regulations suck.. You mean like the archery hunters did that wanted more time to kill bucks so the rut was added? You equate asking for a change in regulation as whining and moaning, unless of course, it is something you take advantage of......
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 7:11:37 GMT -5
I would be satisfied to see, as a good start, one single Sunday added to hunting season, that being the day after the Saturday opener for bear season. Failing that, go back to opening bear season on the Monday before Thanksgiving. Opening the season on Saturday makes absolutely no sense at all unless you can hunt the next day. Once those against Sunday hunting for whatever reason saw how much that improved bear season, some of the negative vibes would disappear. Most of the non-religious objections to Sunday hunting revolve around wanting more deer, but the deer harvest is controlled by the number of antlerless tags issued, not the number of days available to hunt. The issue of a horribly increased harvest if a Sunday was available to hunt is a red herring. Bear season is stupid without the Sunday. Would make going up easier as to know you don't have to blow a day of vacation for Sunday when you can't hunt. It's dumb they don't let you hunt and then end it on Tuesday.
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Post by ridgecommander on May 19, 2016 7:14:20 GMT -5
Well, at the end, the senator said they wanted the groups to come to a compromise and that they don't want to force anything on anyone. Wonder how long they want to sit around and wait for others to come to the table? Maybe another 20 years. It is time to either sheet or get off of the pot.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 7:16:40 GMT -5
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