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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 15:40:05 GMT -5
I see posts all the time about saving bear cubs. Call them for anything else and they dont care most of the time. Why such great lengths for bears?
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Post by bowbum on Jun 21, 2019 18:25:43 GMT -5
I see posts all the time about saving bear cubs. Call them for anything else and they dont care most of the time. Why such great lengths for bears? What great lengths? They'll come to save a opossum, hawk, snake or fawn if you call them what would you have them do if someone calls about a bear cub in a trap or somehow needing help?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 18:46:47 GMT -5
I see posts all the time about saving bear cubs. Call them for anything else and they dont care most of the time. Why such great lengths for bears? What great lengths? They'll come to save a opossum, hawk, snake or fawn if you call them what would you have them do if someone calls about a bear cub in a trap or somehow needing help? Ask my dad how they came for a fawn he called in.
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Post by bowbum on Jun 22, 2019 6:55:18 GMT -5
Ok, tell him to call me.
"What great lengths?"
They rescue all sorts of animals, every day year round.
I would like to know how bears are treated in "great lengths."
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 22, 2019 7:56:43 GMT -5
Ok, tell him to call me. "What great lengths?" They rescue all sorts of animals, every day year round. I would like to know how bears are treated in "great lengths." He raises an interesting question. More times than not for something else they say let nature take it's course. They seem to place predators on a higher priority. Just an observation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 8:08:28 GMT -5
Ok, tell him to call me. "What great lengths?" They rescue all sorts of animals, every day year round. I would like to know how bears are treated in "great lengths." Guy hit a bear coming to work the other month. The bear ran off and the PGC showed up and even tracked it til they lost it. The only time they come for other animals is if they are in the middle of town or somewhere they really shouldnt be. Now a bear we resuscitate at all costs.
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Post by cspot on Jun 22, 2019 9:43:38 GMT -5
Ok, tell him to call me. "What great lengths?" They rescue all sorts of animals, every day year round. I would like to know how bears are treated in "great lengths." If a bear is being a nuisance in an area. What does the PGC do? They trap it and take it somewhere else. Now if someone has a raccoon, possum, or pretty much any other animal causing a disturbance what do they do. The dispatch it. Bears are overpopulated now, so why take the effort to relocate them. Shoot the darn thing and move on.
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Post by Dutch on Jun 22, 2019 9:53:29 GMT -5
Ok, tell him to call me. "What great lengths?" They rescue all sorts of animals, every day year round. I would like to know how bears are treated in "great lengths." If a bear is being a nuisance in an area. What does the PGC do? They trap it and take it somewhere else. Now if someone has a raccoon, possum, or pretty much any other animal causing a disturbance what do they do. The dispatch it. Bears are overpopulated now, so why take the effort to relocate them. Shoot the darn thing and move on. I agree, but they caught hell for clubbing fawns. Btw, for nuisance animals, they refer you to a licensed wildlife trapper/killer
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Post by Dutch on Jun 22, 2019 9:56:58 GMT -5
Heck, they trap bears with mange, treat them and release.
I think years ago, good old bear lover RSB trapped one with a broken leg or some other serious injury, treated it and released it.
Bears are special in this state, that is why the PGC has been slow to slow their growth.
IIRC, 2G never had an extended season, maybe they do this year, but 2G was the bear refuge.
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Post by davet on Jun 22, 2019 15:36:32 GMT -5
they refer you to a licensed wildlife trapper/killer I just bot my 2019-20 license......I have traps.......I can kill 'em......does that mean........
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Post by Dutch on Jun 22, 2019 20:51:45 GMT -5
they refer you to a licensed wildlife trapper/killer I just bot my 2019-20 license......I have traps.......I can kill 'em......does that mean........ Nope...
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Post by davet on Jun 22, 2019 21:32:19 GMT -5
I just bot my 2019-20 license......I have traps.......I can kill 'em......does that mean........ Nope... Da#n!!
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Post by dennyf on Jun 23, 2019 6:43:33 GMT -5
They just "dispatched" a young bear recently, because people had been feeding it and it had become "too used to people" to move/release.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 23, 2019 8:56:41 GMT -5
They just "dispatched" a young bear recently, because people had been feeding it and it had become "too used to people" to move/release. Was that the one in Oregon? LOL.
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Post by bushmaster on Jun 23, 2019 13:17:38 GMT -5
Attachment DeletedSpeaking of bears. I found this track today while hanging tree stand. I found some scat a couple weeks ago in same area. Washington county.
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Post by cspot on Jun 23, 2019 18:00:04 GMT -5
View AttachmentSpeaking of bears. I found this track today while hanging tree stand. I found some scat a couple weeks ago in same area. Washington county. I saw some Facebook posts of a bear in Washington a couple of weeks ago. Might have been in Cecil Twp?
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 23, 2019 18:18:22 GMT -5
Bears are becoming establishing in Greene and Washington Counties. They used to be primarily roaming males but we now have resident sows having cubs.
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Post by bushmaster on Jun 23, 2019 18:49:20 GMT -5
Track was a little larger than my hand. This was in the Burgettstown area of Washington County. I'll be moving my trailcam to this area next weekend. With any luck I'll get a pic.
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Post by cspot on Jun 23, 2019 18:51:59 GMT -5
Track was a little larger than my hand. This was in the Burgettstown area of Washington County. I'll be moving my trailcam to this area next weekend. With any luck I'll get a pic. He didn't knock on your trailer door did he. At least I think that is what you that had happen a couple of years ago?
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Post by bushmaster on Jun 23, 2019 19:17:43 GMT -5
This one hasn't stopped by to visit yet. No sightings of bear this Turkey season at my club, the last 2 years guys where seeing them. Plenty of Bobcat running around though.
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Post by fleroo on Jun 24, 2019 6:45:13 GMT -5
Ehhhhh. An injured, pissed off bear, near even a semi-populated area, can present a different level of problems than an injured and pissed off fawn. Hell, an injured and pissed off bear presents a different level of problems than an injured or pissed off anything in PA.... 'ceptin my lass perhaps.
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Post by bowbum on Jun 24, 2019 7:13:27 GMT -5
Ok, tell him to call me. "What great lengths?" They rescue all sorts of animals, every day year round. I would like to know how bears are treated in "great lengths." Guy hit a bear coming to work the other month. The bear ran off and the PGC showed up and even tracked it til they lost it. The only time they come for other animals is if they are in the middle of town or somewhere they really shouldnt be. Now a bear we resuscitate at all costs. I guess I imagine myself in the position of having to deal with an injured bear, (hit by a vehicle and extent of injury unknown), and the possibility of that bear encountering humans. We've all been told of the potential danger from encountering an injured bear. NO debate here that it could be a very serious situation! So, :IN THE EVENT THAT THE PGC DID NOT RESPOND AND THAT BEAR WERE TO ATTACK A CHILD OR ADULT STROUPY WOULD BE THE FIRST ON HERE CONDEMNING THE PGC AND SEVERAL OTHER PGC BASHERS WOULD FALL IN LINE SO FAST IT WOULD MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN. The reality is that the PGC could never please some people who know all about how every situation should be handled perfectly. It's always been that way, (the experts could learn everything from me), and it always will be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 8:04:28 GMT -5
Its okay to admit bears are special. Why are we still checking in every bear? How much more info do they need...
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 24, 2019 10:54:29 GMT -5
Why are we still checking in every bear? Been saying it for years. There is no need to continue to check every bear. The PGC does enough field checks and trap and transfers to get enough information for continued monitoring. Maybe require checking bears harvested on one day of the season if they feel they need more data.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 11:02:07 GMT -5
As someone who has legally harvested a bear during archery bear season ( a few years ago), let me put in my two cents. I had no problem having my bear checked, but I did resent the (it was quite apparent) assumption that I shot it over bait. I did not. The WCO who came to check me insisted he wanted to see the kill site, so I took him there. It was a bit of a hard hike as we had to cross a stream and go about half a mile through rough terrain, and he groused about it a lot. My response was, "You wanted to see the kill site. Here it is." I have to wonder if he ever insisted on that again/
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