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Post by ridgecommander on Sept 13, 2017 9:53:52 GMT -5
HSUS/PETA would be thrilled to spread the word that wild game is no longer safe to eat. Makes their chosen chores much easier, if everyone gives up hunting over such fears. Several anti-gun groups have been giving CDC a hard time for not updating the last firearms study they did, since it has probably been a decade or longer since they did the last one? I've read the CDC report and it comes to no conclusions because the data does not support the supposition that more gun control has proven to serve any useful purpose. But they did note that firearms-related injuries/deaths had declined. Imagine how low those injuries/deaths would be, if there was no gang or crime related firearms data to sort thru? Exactly. This is anti hunting influence all over it. |
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 13, 2017 10:10:47 GMT -5
HSUS/PETA would be thrilled to spread the word that wild game is no longer safe to eat. Makes their chosen chores much easier, if everyone gives up hunting over such fears. Several anti-gun groups have been giving CDC a hard time for not updating the last firearms study they did, since it has probably been a decade or longer since they did the last one? I've read the CDC report and it comes to no conclusions because the data does not support the supposition that more gun control has proven to serve any useful purpose. But they did note that firearms-related injuries/deaths had declined. Imagine how low those injuries/deaths would be, if there was no gang or crime related firearms data to sort thru? Exactly. This is anti hunting influence all over it. I'm not saying that any of these groups would be anything but giddy about this news, but in the cases that I'm familiar with, conspiracy theories have nothing to do with them.They are actual cases with real people. |
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Post by bowbum on Sept 13, 2017 10:58:25 GMT -5
And I would expect any man with your vast knowledge, would certainly understand the implications of violating HIPAA laws. HIPPA has absolutely nothing to do with reporting statistics. There is a moral and legal obligation on the part of health professionals to report any endangering illnesses. Period! Names need not be given only number of cases and diagnosis. No HIPPA violations at all. |
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 13, 2017 11:18:22 GMT -5
I don't think you understand how few people have the skills or the proper equipment to sample, transport and study these samples. Prions are far smaller than viruses, and I'm sure you know how little successes we have had dealing with varying viruses. The unknowns are huge and the dangers are untold.
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Post by bowbum on Sept 13, 2017 14:07:11 GMT -5
I don't think you understand how few people have the skills or the proper equipment to sample, transport and study these samples. Prions are far smaller than viruses, and I'm sure you know how little successes we have had dealing with varying viruses. The unknowns are huge and the dangers are untold. I can see where this is going, to nowhereville, so I'll let this one be Jim, you've danced away from your claims; "I told you this is way past what you are being told, we have people dieing from this" ..........and: "People would lose their jobs if I say more more, but this is a very dangerous situation. And it is real. " Using some HIPPA concerns that don't hold water and now lack of expertise and equipment to infer "untold dangers" to humans. If "you" know what it is, then knowledge and equipment must be available...................warn the masses please! |
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 13, 2017 14:26:38 GMT -5
So I shouldn't be expecting a Christmas card and coupon from the jelly of the month club ?
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Post by bowbum on Sept 13, 2017 14:41:48 GMT -5
So I shouldn't be expecting a Christmas card and coupon from the jelly of the month club ? Nah, just can't have a informative exchange when it is so vague and mysterious...?  |
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 13, 2017 14:53:20 GMT -5
All I have tried to convey to you is unlike Climate change, this is very much for real. I can say that with 100 confidence, whether you choose to take precautions is completely up to yourself.
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Post by Muab Dib on Sept 13, 2017 15:51:41 GMT -5
All I have tried to convey to you is unlike Climate change, this is very much for real. I can say that with 100 confidence, whether you choose to take precautions is completely up to yourself. You've painted yourself into a corner Jim... Unless you tell us what you perceive to be the facts and the source of said facts; anything less is BS. Muab (who just painted himself into a corner I fear  ) |
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Post by bushmaster on Sept 13, 2017 16:04:26 GMT -5
I know one thing. If the meat needs tested I'm not eating it. If I can't eat it, why even hunt it. That should be everyone's mind set if this is teue.
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Post by buzz on Sept 13, 2017 16:13:54 GMT -5
Bushy, isn't that what the antis would want you to think ?
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Post by bowbum on Sept 13, 2017 17:26:15 GMT -5
This thread is pure hype and nothing else.
There is absolutely "NO" evidence of CWD infecting humans and to promote such irrational hyperbole is rubbish.
Even the CDC acknowledges the complete lack of any data indicating CWD in humans from wildlife.
They, the liberal, don't hurt animals, left tumbling entity is absolutely politicizing.
From the article linked:
"If CWD could spread to people, it would most likely be through eating of infected deer and elk. In a 2006-2007 CDC survey of U.S. residents, nearly 20 percent of those surveyed said they had hunted deer or elk and more than two-thirds said they had eaten venison or elk meat. However, to date, no CWD infections have been reported in people.
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"Hunters harvesting wild deer and elk from areas with reported CWD should check state wildlife and public health guidance to see whether testing of animals is recommended or required in a given state or region
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Post by bushmaster on Sept 13, 2017 17:36:06 GMT -5
Bushy, isn't that what the antis would want you to think ? They sure do! If it is true though, how could you not think that way? |
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 13, 2017 19:24:53 GMT -5
I would be very careful cutting the horns off, I would never take a deer to a prosesing plant where they use a band saw to cut through the spinal cord (which they all do) and I would definitely be very careful handling raw meat.
Chances are you will be stricken by cancer first, but ....
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 13, 2017 19:37:32 GMT -5
Just as a small example, How long has Johnson & Johnson sold baby powder knowing that it was causing cancer and killing our wives ?
Think about how really ask these important question.
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Post by 3212 on Sept 13, 2017 21:16:07 GMT -5
OK,my takeaway from this is that you know someone who has knowledge of a public health hazard.They apparently will lose their position if they blow the whistle and create a panic of some sort.Yes,No?
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Post by bawanajim on Sept 14, 2017 3:11:14 GMT -5
I know a person, who's is working on this issue, the source of the prions is unknown at this point. And yes people are dying from these brain lesions. That's all I'm going to say, its real, and its happening, but the source is unproven at this time.
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Post by davet on Sept 14, 2017 6:51:09 GMT -5
Ghee.....if I were a biologist or scientist, I would perceive this as a business opportunity. If I could develop an in-home testing kit for a reasonable price, I have a market of 750,000 potential customers. And that's just in Pennsylvania!!!
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Post by bowbum on Sept 14, 2017 7:46:59 GMT -5
Anything from the CDC is suspect. They are the ones who, some few years ago, declare gun ownership as a "disease" and (paraphrased here), the biggest threat to health in our country.
Here from 2015:
On November 3, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a 14-page report on gun violence in Wilmington, Delaware, a medium-sized city of roughly 70,000 residents that also experiences one of the highest murder rates in the country. To judge by the language in its title—"Elevated Rates of Urban Firearm Violence and Opportunities for Prevention"—the study might seem to have been an overlooked watershed: Despite a 2013 executive order by President Barack Obama to resume research on gun violence.
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Post by bowbum on Sept 14, 2017 7:48:20 GMT -5
I know a person, who's is working on this issue, the source of the prions is unknown at this point. And yes people are dying from these brain lesions. That's all I'm going to say, its real, and its happening, but the source is unproven at this time. And this person shares with you health information that potentially could be the source of the end of life as we know it? smileys-whistling-823718 |
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Post by bowbum on Sept 14, 2017 7:49:50 GMT -5
Just as a small example, How long has Johnson & Johnson sold baby powder knowing that it was causing cancer and killing our wives ? Think about how really ask these important question. We ain't talking about a manufactured consumer product or trying to save a business millions of dollars by not publicizing the negatives of it. Not even close to the same thing.  |
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Post by davet on Sept 14, 2017 8:58:53 GMT -5
Despite a 2013 executive order by President Barack Obama to resume research on gun violence. Obama is a dolt. Again.....we don't have a gun problem in this country......we have a drug problem in this country. |
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Post by davet on Sept 14, 2017 9:01:40 GMT -5
... And yes people are dying from these brain lesions. That's all I'm going to say, its real, and its happening, but the source is unproven at this time. Hell, I have a bunch of brain lesions. I even have lesions in my spinal column. Mine is MS and with all of the studying going on for MS and all other autoimmune disorders, the cause is still "unknown" and the cure is still a mystery. |
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Post by dennyf on Sept 14, 2017 9:02:39 GMT -5
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Post by turkeykiller on Sept 14, 2017 9:30:07 GMT -5
Question from an average Ol' hunter. From my expierience huntin out west, and what I've read, CWD has to be tested in a gland in the neck, or the brain, or spinal cord. If the prions were in the meat (muscle), makin it dangerous to eat,why couldnt they just test a piece of meat.
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