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Post by fleroo on Jan 26, 2024 11:14:29 GMT -5
I can't stomach to look at that Gaetz guy. Turd !
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 11:32:14 GMT -5
I can't stomach to look at that Gaetz guy. Turd ! Me either. He has a look that I don't trust. Shifty looking.
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Post by dougl on Jan 26, 2024 11:51:23 GMT -5
Trump is a Jack wagon and I'll never argue that point.I fully understand why people find him distasteful.Regardless,we'll most likely have two choices.Choice one is an arrogant asshat who will close the borders,enhance our military,make sure we don't fund every war in the world,become energy independent and put the American people first.Yes,we'll shake our heads from time to time as we wintness him say arrogant things.Choice two will make us shake our heads just as much but he will put our entire country at risk and make our lives worse.To me,the choice is easy.After the way the left weaponized the Gov't against him and lied non-stop about him,I don't understand how anyone could ever vte Democrat again.Nothing Trump said or did is even close to as dangerous as what the left did to try and remove him and alter the course of an election.That was third world,banana republic bull.It's indefensible and anyone who defends it or looks the other way is the problem.What they did during covid will stick with me forever.The lies and corruption is hard to grasp.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jan 26, 2024 12:11:15 GMT -5
I'm kicking myself for not investing in both razor wire and bandaids back in 2019.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 12:13:44 GMT -5
I disagree. Strongly.
His was a straight on assault of our Constitution between the election and the swearing in.
If people can't see that, when it's Republicans that testified against him, then you are blinded.
I'll never vote for that. Ever.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 13:19:18 GMT -5
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Post by dougl on Jan 26, 2024 13:56:14 GMT -5
The fact that anyone could be found guilty of rape 30 years later without any evidence is insane.It was complete hearsay but does show the lengths they will go to try and stop the man.Do you really believe he violently raped a woman is a dressing room lol?
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 14:21:47 GMT -5
If he was convicted of rape, he'd be in jail. This was a civil trial.
And I do believe he's capable of assaulting a woman
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 14:23:58 GMT -5
BTW, energy production here in the US is at record levels
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Post by rusty on Jan 26, 2024 14:27:28 GMT -5
Trump is a Jack wagon and I'll never argue that point.I fully understand why people find him distasteful.Regardless,we'll most likely have two choices.Choice one is an arrogant asshat who will close the borders,enhance our military,make sure we don't fund every war in the world,become energy independent and put the American people first.Yes,we'll shake our heads from time to time as we wintness him say arrogant things.Choice two will make us shake our heads just as much but he will put our entire country at risk and make our lives worse.To me,the choice is easy.After the way the left weaponized the Gov't against him and lied non-stop about him,I don't understand how anyone could ever vte Democrat again.Nothing Trump said or did is even close to as dangerous as what the left did to try and remove him and alter the course of an election.That was third world,banana republic bull.It's indefensible and anyone who defends it or looks the other way is the problem.What they did during covid will stick with me forever.The lies and corruption is hard to grasp. Going after trump for crimes he committed is not weaponizing anything. He stole classified and TOP SECRET documents and had them unsecured in his country club and other properties. There is absolutely no evidence to support his claims of a stolen election. He constantly lies. He mishandled the covid virus that killed more than 1 million Americans and used the pandemic as a political tool to further divide the country. Much of what happened under trumps watch in 2020 is now blamed on Biden by the liars on far right media. Trump and his stooges did their best to steal the election, using misinformed "super patriots" for an attack on the peoples Capitol, trying to use fake electors, and demanding his VP go against the constitution. Then he wanted to "terminate the Constitution" and be reinstalled as president. He continues to lie and use far right media to misinform gullible Americans to continue their support. He has no respect for the men who serve, and have served, in our military. He and his family made BILLIONS off China and the Saudis during his single term and shortly after. And we don't have to mention him bragging about purposely walking in on 14-year-old girls while they were naked and prepping for the pageant he bought. Remember, he claimed Epstein as a "great fiend" who loved younger women as much as he does, yet it is Biden who trump supporters try painting as a pedophile. It's hard to think of a more despicable character who has lead a country...at least this country. I am no big fan of Biden, but we have never produced as much energy as we are producing today, the economy has recovered well, especially compared to most of the rest of the world, since covid, and even most of the economic "experts" are now saying that their predictions of a crash or deep recession is unlikely. It's likely going to come down to choosing the man that is not as bad as the other guy. And if it comes down to the same as in 2020, I can't see any reasonable voter choosing the donald.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 14:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by rusty on Jan 26, 2024 14:30:06 GMT -5
The fact that anyone could be found guilty of rape 30 years later without any evidence is insane.It was complete hearsay but does show the lengths they will go to try and stop the man.Do you really believe he violently raped a woman is a dressing room lol? I have to agree with you on that point, Doug. I would not put it past him, but conviction after 30 years with little to no evidence is absolutely ridiculous.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 14:33:36 GMT -5
The fact that anyone could be found guilty of rape 30 years later without any evidence is insane.It was complete hearsay but does show the lengths they will go to try and stop the man.Do you really believe he violently raped a woman is a dressing room lol? I have to agree with you on that point, Doug. I would not put it past him, but conviction after 30 years with little to no evidence is absolutely ridiculous. Again, this was not a criminal trial, but a civil trial. Read my link above, it explains what he was "convicted" of. It wasn't rape
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Post by rusty on Jan 26, 2024 14:36:49 GMT -5
I understand the difference, Dutch. I don't even think that a preponderance of the evidence was met in this case.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 26, 2024 14:37:49 GMT -5
I understand the difference, Dutch. I don't even think that a preponderance of the evidence was met in this case. Read the link. The jurors disagree with you
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Post by fleroo on Jan 26, 2024 14:45:53 GMT -5
It's going to be one hell of an interesting 9 1/2 months or so.
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Post by rusty on Jan 26, 2024 14:50:38 GMT -5
I understand the difference, Dutch. I don't even think that a preponderance of the evidence was met in this case. Read the link. The jurors disagree with you I read it and I don't think I would have been picked to serve on that jury. As much as I think trump is a worm, I don't think I could find as they did after 30 years.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jan 27, 2024 11:04:33 GMT -5
Popeye got 80 million dollars worth of spinach.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 27, 2024 11:12:21 GMT -5
Read the link. The jurors disagree with you I read it and I don't think I would have been picked to serve on that jury. As much as I think trump is a worm, I don't think I could find as they did after 30 years. My guess is his courtroom antics may have factored in to the high penalty
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Post by Loggy on Jan 27, 2024 11:23:16 GMT -5
I read it and I don't think I would have been picked to serve on that jury. As much as I think trump is a worm, I don't think I could find as they did after 30 years. My guess is his courtroom antics may have factored in to the high penalty Also read that Jury thought by tacking on an xtra $60 million hopefully will deter him from further spewing of defamatory comments. My guess on another civil proceeding when Judge Engoron delivers a possible $370 million fine along with NY business bans.....the ever flapping piehole will get amazingly silent.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jan 27, 2024 11:30:43 GMT -5
After a 30 year silence. Promoting a book, and the inability to give the date it happened. everyone on this board would be flapping their mouth.
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Post by moosemike on Jan 27, 2024 13:07:56 GMT -5
Last day of deer season. I'm out here giving it the old college try
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Post by whitefalcon on Jan 28, 2024 9:09:30 GMT -5
Sorry Dutch.
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Post by muttleysback on Jan 29, 2024 11:22:58 GMT -5
Is this how we keep politics out of our discussions?
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jan 31, 2024 5:43:34 GMT -5
I thought we could. No bullying.
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