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Post by fleroo on Dec 30, 2023 12:47:17 GMT -5
But it is a HUGE advantage to get pinged that a buck is heading on a trail towards the .... you name the landmark. There simply is no disputing that. No way, No how. LOL There is zero advantage to that because it is illegal to get pinged then try to intercept that buck in Pa.. That fact is often left out of these discussions. Ridge... PUHLEASEEEEE !!! You're out on your God's little acreage in rifle season. You're 250 yards away from a cell camera, watching a field. You get pinged there's a nice stud walking up the gasline, away from your current position. BUT, if you take a leisurely 2 minute walk just up over the knoll, you'll see him plain as day. You're gonna look at the pic, and say "Darn it anyhow. Just my luck, he's going the wrong way. And by golly it's illegal for me to walk up over that knoll and kill him !" BWAAHAHA...Come on Bro ! I didn't just fall off that proverbial turnip truck. They should be made illegal during hunting seasons, Period! I can't think of a more egregiously effective "cheating" tool one can employ than a cell-cam during hunting season, LOL. And the Crappie sitting on structure, visible on a feeshie finder, is just a horrible comparison.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Dec 30, 2023 13:04:33 GMT -5
I feel they shouldn't be outlawed anymore than a vehicle be banned. Both should be treated the same under the law if being used to locate game in real time. Case in point. Food plots located in view from a vehicle. An evening drive to locate game to shoot. A real time camera set up on those same food plots. I don't see the difference. It's just too damn bad about an ID requirement. Cry me a river on that one.
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Post by fleroo on Dec 30, 2023 13:34:55 GMT -5
Apples and Oranges, Westfield. Apples and Oranges. However, I do respect your opinion. Only Mother Theresa (AND RIDGE ) wouldn't go after that buck in my aforementioned scenario.
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Post by fleroo on Dec 30, 2023 13:49:48 GMT -5
The difference between a food plot and/or bait vs. a Cell-Cam pic is....... Food Plot/Bait, the deer you want to kill MIGHT show up. Cell-Cam pic.... it showed up! And I'm perfectly fine with plots. I'm indifferent on "baiting". Can care less either way ?
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Dec 30, 2023 15:12:26 GMT -5
Having a camera locate your game in real time is about as unsportsman like as one can get. Unless we are fishing then we can motor around, use hi definition sonar to look at a school of crappies in a tree, then watch your jig sink down to them and enjoy the take on the screen. In that case, it is all good, lol. Yep, I can release that crappie to live another day. Kind of hard to do that with an arrow or chunk of lead from a firearm.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Dec 30, 2023 15:16:05 GMT -5
But it is a HUGE advantage to get pinged that a buck is heading on a trail towards the .... you name the landmark. There simply is no disputing that. No way, No how. LOL There is zero advantage to that because it is illegal to get pinged then try to intercept that buck in Pa.. That fact is often left out of these discussions. A lot of things are illegal to do in deer season to make to make it fair chase. Doesn’t mean it’s not done though.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Dec 30, 2023 15:32:30 GMT -5
I’m in favor of outlawing only cell camera by anyone who has a license to hunt in the current season. All cell cameras must have either the owner’s name and current address attached to them or their CID number.. Non cell cameras would be legal for anyone during any current season.
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Post by Dutch on Dec 30, 2023 16:20:06 GMT -5
May as well ban cellphones and walkie talkies at that point
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Post by bake545 on Dec 30, 2023 16:47:55 GMT -5
Just another example of solution to a problem that doesn’t exist….except in the heads of people who don’t know what they speak of.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Dec 30, 2023 17:05:40 GMT -5
May as well ban cellphones and walkie talkies at that point All ready ban, Hunting Trapping Digest, page 16, electronic devices, #4. “ Portable two-way radios and cellphones may not be used to direct or alert another hunter of the presence or location of live game or wildlife. Alerting hunters to live game not only is a violation of the Game and Wildlife Code, but violates the concept of fair chase.”
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Post by Dutch on Dec 30, 2023 17:09:49 GMT -5
And we know those are used way more than any cell cameras
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Post by cspot on Dec 30, 2023 17:14:38 GMT -5
And we know those are used way more than any cell cameras Yep. I remember when the walkie talkies got popular there before cell phones. You could listen in to alot of the neighbors. Seemed to be alot of people talking in code. LOL.
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Post by Dutch on Dec 30, 2023 17:19:53 GMT -5
I have not gotten this buck on my camera since the first night of rifle season. Just got him today. Oh wow, those cameras are a huge advantage. LMBO
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 30, 2023 17:52:39 GMT -5
Ridge... PUHLEASEEEEE !!! It's illegal to do what you suggested. If folks are going to break that law, they are still going to use cell cams if they are illegal, especially on private property. How may repetitive laws and regs do we need? This is a solution looking for s problem and over-regulation to its core. I don't even own a cell cam.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 1, 2024 15:40:27 GMT -5
Just another example of solution to a problem that doesn’t exist….except in the heads of people who don’t know what they speak of. Oh Geez ! Why ? Because bake545 is the only person allowed to have an opinion, and he is always right, and any other opinion is wrong ? LOL. Reminds me of a friend of mine. When we (all us pards) would put roofs on, we would say..... "There's 2 ways to do that. There's either John's way, or the wrong way!"
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Post by bake545 on Jan 1, 2024 16:05:42 GMT -5
Just another example of solution to a problem that doesn’t exist….except in the heads of people who don’t know what they speak of. Oh Geez ! Why ? Because bake545 is the only person allowed to have an opinion, and he is always right, and any other opinion is wrong ? LOL. Reminds me of a friend of mine. When we (all us pards) would put roofs on, we would say..... "There's 2 ways to do that. There's either John's way, or the wrong way!" Haha, that’s pot meet kettle if I ever saw it.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 1, 2024 16:25:03 GMT -5
Says the lad running 5 cell cams in season. LOL!
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Post by fleroo on Jan 1, 2024 16:35:07 GMT -5
You're Buckless Bob, out there looking for a buck, oh... the second Thursday of rifle season. Buckless Bob cares enough about a derned deer, and their habits, etc... to run Cell Trailcams on his property. Buckless Bob gets that ping that I mentioned in my prior post. Buckless Bob's reaction will be... "I'm not walking up over that knoll and cutting that buck off. That's illegal !" Ridge... You DO get the "Mother Theresa Sportsman of the Year Award". Or, you fib... just a teenie-weenie bit ? LOL I forgot to mention, to sweeten the pot just a tad. That ping you got, it showed a vivid picture of a Slammer, a Hammer, a Hog, a TOAD !
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Post by fleroo on Jan 1, 2024 16:50:39 GMT -5
Hell, I'll take it a step further. Seein's how I was the only one of 9 guys to take a buck this year, if I were on my couch watching Gunsmoke re-runs, and got that ping on my phone, I would call or text EVERY one of my friends out there in the woods, and give them suggestions as to the best way to cut that buck off to kill it. LOL
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jan 1, 2024 17:40:38 GMT -5
How does this law in NH, pile on to the law in Pa?
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Post by Dutch on Jan 1, 2024 18:32:42 GMT -5
Yep, cell cameras make killing a buck a sure thing. SMH
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 1, 2024 19:16:27 GMT -5
Ridge... You DO get the "Mother Theresa Sportsman of the Year Award". Or, you fib... just a teenie-weenie bit ? LOL We already have laws that address using cell cams to actively assist in a hunt. We also have laws regarding two way radios. Yes, some use them illegally but no outcry that they should be illegal. The one thing we do not need is more laws and regs that are redundant.
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Post by dougl on Jan 2, 2024 8:38:17 GMT -5
And we know those are used way more than any cell cameras Yep. I remember when the walkie talkies got popular there before cell phones. You could listen in to alot of the neighbors. Seemed to be alot of people talking in code. LOL. I loved hearing the chatter on those radios when you could hear other hunting parties.Around 9:00am I used to muffle my voice a little and say,DAD,I JUST SHOT ONE!The next several minutes were always entertaining.
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Post by bake545 on Jan 2, 2024 12:46:47 GMT -5
Says the lad running 5 cell cams in season. LOL! Says the guy with 0 who thinks he knows all about them lol. And for the record, I have more than 5. I can't say they've helped me kill deer in any way exactly but it sure is fun to see what all is out there. Killing deer where i hunt isn't real tough with or without cell cameras.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 2, 2024 14:01:22 GMT -5
I know enough about them to know that if one gives me a "ping" of a "Booner", a "Hammer, a "Slammer", a "Toad", that is just over the knoll from me in rifle season, there's a very high probability that it's gonna die if I want it to die.
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