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Post by fleroo on Mar 8, 2023 13:34:28 GMT -5
Which is the 1st mile from the start of the tailwaters (Dam) downstream. The Yough is 134 miles long. Soo, 133 miles of the Yough doesn't fall under any sort of designated Trout waters, since is stocked by clubs. Not "The Commission".
That said, I still don't believe fishing, in general, for any of the species other than Trout, even in "Designated Trout Waters", will hold up in court if one is fined and decides to challenge. Actually, it borders on discriminatory in my book. You exclude folks that may want to catch any number of species in our waters if they don't want to buy a Trout Stamp. Of course, "possessing" (live well, stringer, creel, etc...) a Trout after an incidental catch is a different story. That's poaching if one doesn't have a stamp.
The vagueness in many cases as worded, and the "borderline" possibility of a violation, just adds fodder to getting rid of special species "stamps", and building it into license cost. Ya I know.... the politics of it (legislature).
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Post by cspot on Mar 8, 2023 16:50:47 GMT -5
Which is the 1st mile from the start of the tailwaters (Dam) downstream. The Yough is 134 miles long. Soo, 133 miles of the Yough doesn't fall under any sort of designated Trout waters, since is stocked by clubs. Not "The Commission". That said, I still don't believe fishing, in general, for any of the species other than Trout, even in "Designated Trout Waters", will hold up in court if one is fined and decides to challenge. Actually, it borders on discriminatory in my book. You exclude folks that may want to catch any number of species in our waters if they don't want to buy a Trout Stamp. Of course, "possessing" (live well, stringer, creel, etc...) a Trout after an incidental catch is a different story. That's poaching if one doesn't have a stamp. The vagueness in many cases as worded, and the "borderline" possibility of a violation, just adds fodder to getting rid of special species "stamps", and building it into license cost. Ya I know.... the politics of it (legislature). But what I posted Fleroo says that it is open to year around fishing. I believe that you have to have a trout stamp though when fishing from Feb 20 to May 31. If I am reading that correctly. I never researched it that much as I usually get a trout stamp as they make good catfish bait.
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Post by timberdoodle on Mar 8, 2023 17:05:59 GMT -5
§ 63.20. Permits for the protection and management of trout. (a) Finding. The Commission finds under section 2904 of the code (relating to permits for the protection and management of particular fish) that it is necessary for the protection and management of trout in the waters of this Commonwealth that persons who fish for trout have a permit for that activity.
(b) Permit required. It is unlawful for a person required by Chapter 27 of the code (relating to fishing licenses) to procure a fishing license to fish for trout unless that person has first procured a valid trout permit or a combination trout permit and Lake Erie permit.
(c) Exceptions.
(1) The Commission will issue a trout permit without fee to disabled veterans who possess a free fishing license under section 2707 of the code (relating to disabled veterans).
(2) A person who is exempt from the fishing license requirements of Chapter 27 of the code or who is issued an institutional fishing license under section 2708 of the code (relating to institutional licenses) is exempt from this section.
(3) A person who purchased a senior resident lifetime fishing license and a trout permit or a combination trout permit and Lake Erie permit prior to January 1, 2015, shall be exempt from the requirements of this section.
(4) A trout permit is not required to fish for trout on free fishing days designated by the Commission under section 2709(d) of the code (relating to exemptions from license requirements).
(5) A trout permit is not required to fish for trout on Class A regulated fishing lakes. A trout permit is not required to fish for trout on designated Class B regulated fishing lakes that have the following characteristics:
(i) The lake is a natural pond or impoundment located wholly on private property and constructed and maintained wholly with private funds.
(ii) The lake is operated by a private club or organization.
(iii) The lake is not open for fishing by the general public, and fishing is restricted to members only.
(iv) The trout/salmon population of the lake is composed entirely of trout or salmon stocked from private resources and contains no trout or salmon stocked by the Commission, the United States Government or cooperative nurseries recognized by the Commission.
(d) Fish for trout or salmon. A person fishes for trout or salmon when one of the following applies:
(1) The person fishes in waters under special trout regulations designated under those sections of Chapter 65 (relating to special fishing regulations) that require a trout permit, wilderness trout streams or their tributaries or Class A wild trout waters or their tributaries.
(2) The person fishes in streams or rivers that are stocked trout waters as defined in § 63.3 (relating to fishing in stocked trout waters) or their tributaries during the period from 12:01 a.m. on the third Monday in February until midnight May 31.
(3) The person takes, kills or possess, while in the act of fishing, a trout or salmon on or in waters of this Commonwealth or boundary waters.
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Post by fleroo on Mar 8, 2023 17:09:06 GMT -5
Yes. That 1 mile stretch that is stocked by the state, is open to year-round TROUT fishing. As opposed to streams that are closed when they get a pre-season stock until opening day. The rest of the 133 mile stretch is open year-round also of course, since it's not stocked by the state.
For Trout stocked in waters designated a "River", should have more clarity. In other words, it should have stated the "1 mile stretch from Dam to the Confluence of...". I know it's hard to dot every "I" and cross every "T" in regs, but.... that's why so much is left open for interpretation. It is what it is.
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