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Post by archeryman32 on Sept 20, 2012 7:46:00 GMT -5
Had a hard frost here in the Coudersport area last night. I cant believe it, but it happened. Wonder how this will effect how the deer start hitting Brassica plots?
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Post by galthatfishes on Sept 20, 2012 7:51:28 GMT -5
Wow! Thats a bit early! I'd guess they might start, but will still be hitting the areas that have apples, cherries and acorns first.
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Post by archeryman32 on Sept 20, 2012 8:11:43 GMT -5
The ground is covered in cherries, literally. But the apples and acorns are few and far between this year.
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Post by bowrage on Sept 20, 2012 8:24:56 GMT -5
Wondering the same thing.
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Post by dennyf on Sept 20, 2012 9:24:49 GMT -5
Very few apples again this year, up around my place in Brookfield Twp. in 3A. Several years in a row with late frosts that hammered our apple trees. I have one large apple tree near the cabin, that seems to be unaffected by such frosts each spring. My guess is that winter will come early to the northern tier this year and stick around for some time. Just a hunch? Pretty good crop of beechnuts, hickory nuts and wild cherries, but I'm not seeing many young turkeys in the area this year. Grouse seem to be rebounding, though and tree rats are in great abundance. Another good year for understory regen, so I reckon the little hooved devils will have sufficient over winter browse again? Few signs of over browsing last spring, so things look about right. My cousin's kid planted lots of clover this year that came on very well, some turnips and brassica in "his" food plots. When I was up over Labor Day, the resident does and fawns were hitting the plots, but were spending just as much time out in the adjoining hayfields. Clover has rebounded well in those fields, now that ol' cuz is getting the hay off earlier.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 20, 2012 13:27:23 GMT -5
I have never subscribed to the brassicas needing a frost to be eaten theory.
Before herd reduction, I saw a brassica plot wiped out by deer on a SGL in Potter, by early September. Never had a frost, just some very hungry deer.
I have always considered brassicas to be a food, not of last resort, but lower down the preference list. When everything else in the woods is dying or drying up, those greens begin to get hammered, cause they are the best green stuff available. Iyt just so happens that is generally around the time of the first hard frost.
I've also seen stands of brassicas virtually untouched in February, simply because the deer had other things to eat that they preferred.
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Post by richg on Sept 20, 2012 18:54:44 GMT -5
The ground is covered in cherries, literally. But the apples and acorns are few and far between this year. Same here for the acorns.Two years in a row.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2012 19:05:34 GMT -5
I was a cold morning surprised there wasn't frost in my area
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2012 19:09:24 GMT -5
also hoping to get frost so I am not a meal to the mosquitoes this year last year they were terrible
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Post by richg on Sept 20, 2012 19:35:10 GMT -5
Those dang skeeters were bad this year.I won't miss them.
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Post by bowrage on Sept 20, 2012 22:02:13 GMT -5
Deer have been eating my Brassica's for 2 weeks. Actually had me concerned it would last until hunting season. Just too bad the bucks aren't the ones eating it.
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Post by bowrage on Sept 22, 2012 11:31:32 GMT -5
Went down to the plot to pull the card and the deer have really been eating it. Almost every plant has at least one leaf ate off it and a lot are down to nubs. I guess I need to get rid of some doe or make the plot bigger.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 22, 2012 13:37:42 GMT -5
Ya know Bowrage, sometimes too many wimmin chase off the men, but come the rut.........
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Post by bowrage on Sept 22, 2012 15:57:51 GMT -5
I wont be here for the rut, I'll be in Illinois. The doe better enjoy the next 6 days.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 22, 2012 16:06:15 GMT -5
I wont be here for the rut, I'll be in Illinois. The doe better enjoy the next 6 days. LOL, thats the spirit! Best of luck to ya!
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Post by bowrage on Sept 27, 2012 18:55:30 GMT -5
My 1 Acre plus plot, after 2 frosts already is basically gone. Saw 15 deer in it spotting the other night. The neighbor has plots as well, he had 35 deer but has 5 plots planted in different stuff all about 2 acres each and 1 property south of him, 12 more deer just laying in a mowed yard. ALL DOE and Fawn groups....Time to drop the hammer on some baldies and get some youth hunters in the game.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 27, 2012 20:14:12 GMT -5
Next year, you may wanna DMAP.
That is an incredible number of deer.
Takes them over a month to clean up my 1/3 acre of brassica, when I plant it at my place.
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Post by bowrage on Sept 27, 2012 20:48:15 GMT -5
The entire mountain behind the foodplot, minus the 90 wooded acres owned by the farmer is a dmap in its 3rd year.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 27, 2012 21:16:24 GMT -5
I thought you guys said there were no deer in 2G Potter County?
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Post by bowrage on Sept 27, 2012 21:24:32 GMT -5
I'm not in Potter County.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 27, 2012 21:36:54 GMT -5
My mistake.
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Post by bowrage on Oct 7, 2012 12:51:59 GMT -5
Now they are pulling up the purple top turnips and eating them. Didn't think that would be happening already.
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Post by Dutch on Oct 7, 2012 18:30:06 GMT -5
WOW! Those deer are really hungry.
You could stand to "lose" some does, if thats the case, just a guess.
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Post by Dutch on Oct 7, 2012 18:31:07 GMT -5
My plots are seeing very little use. Plenty of food in the woods for the number of deer.
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Post by bowrage on Oct 8, 2012 14:10:14 GMT -5
Unless they legalize hunting at night, the deer are pretty safe.
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