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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 8:36:10 GMT -5
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Post by davet on Nov 29, 2017 12:41:59 GMT -5
Not a real surprise. Less hunters....less applying....had to happen at some point.
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Post by Bill on Dec 5, 2017 14:46:41 GMT -5
You forgot to add that he's a non resident. Lots of 'interesting' things going on with the elk lottery...things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 5, 2017 19:22:14 GMT -5
You forgot to add that he's a non resident. Lots of 'interesting' things going on with the elk lottery...things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm. Do tell. |
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Post by Bill on Dec 5, 2017 21:00:08 GMT -5
Oh nothing much...just that the nephews of the president and CEO of KECA each drew cow tags the past two years. That's not including his son who drew a bull tag when the hunt first started. Something stinks...and it ain't elk droppings.
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 6, 2017 7:59:58 GMT -5
Oh nothing much...just that the nephews of the president and CEO of KECA each drew cow tags the past two years. That's not including his son who drew a bull tag when the hunt first started. Something stinks...and it ain't elk droppings. Been saying that for years. The habitual defenders of the PGC and the elk drawing will keep fighting the fight, but the lottery system smells of stench. |
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Post by Bill on Dec 6, 2017 8:13:29 GMT -5
In my opinion everything that has to do with elk tags needs to be handled by an independent third party that has no connections whatsoever to the PGC, KECA, or any outfitters. A lot of people from these groups are so connected in various ways and where there is power there is almost always corruption. Keep in mind, the examples above are only the ones known, it could go even deeper. I've seen enough not to trust it, to me it's a joke.
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 6, 2017 8:18:34 GMT -5
Rawleys son getting a bull tag right off the bat had many shaking their heads.
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Post by Bill on Dec 6, 2017 8:30:12 GMT -5
Then you have KECA finally, after all of these years, contributing to permanent land protection. But instead of making that land a part of a SGL or SF they go and deed it to themselves. Nobody will ever set foot on that land except for 'the connected'. Hell all of the land the visitor center sits on is state land but you have to stay on the paths. Pretty sure 'the connected' hunt on it during deer season. Wait, you can go off the paths if you pay $12.50 for a wagon ride. Lmao Gotta keep that money streaming in to pay huge salaries and spend thousands a pop to figure out what elk eat. Oh brother...
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 6, 2017 11:53:05 GMT -5
Rawley is making over 100 gs a year, I believe. What a sweet deal!
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Post by Dutch on Dec 6, 2017 15:41:53 GMT -5
Rawley is making over 100 gs a year, I believe. What a sweet deal! You have a problem with people being paid a decent salary? |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 6, 2017 15:54:54 GMT -5
Rawley is making over 100 gs a year, I believe. What a sweet deal! You have a problem with people being paid a decent salary? Nope. Depends on what they are doing and who is paying them. Example: Pa Turnpike toll collectors should be paid $10 and hour plus benefits. 401K. No pension. |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 6, 2017 15:57:29 GMT -5
You have a problem with people being paid a decent salary? Nope. Depends on what they are doing and who is paying them. Example: Pa Turnpike toll collectors should be paid $10 and hour plus benefits. 401K. No pension. There will be no toll collectors soon |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 6, 2017 16:06:37 GMT -5
There will be no toll collectors soon Great! You know what the President of the Red Cross makes? |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 6, 2017 17:18:20 GMT -5
There will be no toll collectors soon Great! You know what the President of the Red Cross makes? That Goodell guy is worth every penny, thats for sure. |
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Post by dougell on Dec 7, 2017 9:35:38 GMT -5
Then you have KECA finally, after all of these years, contributing to permanent land protection. But instead of making that land a part of a SGL or SF they go and deed it to themselves. Nobody will ever set foot on that land except for 'the connected'. Hell all of the land the visitor center sits on is state land but you have to stay on the paths. Pretty sure 'the connected' hunt on it during deer season. Wait, you can go off the paths if you pay $12.50 for a wagon ride. Lmao Gotta keep that money streaming in to pay huge salaries and spend thousands a pop to figure out what elk eat. Oh brother... Tell me more about the KECA buying land and keeping people off.I'm not doubting you,just not in the loop. |
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Post by redarrow on Dec 7, 2017 16:08:25 GMT -5
You have a problem with people being paid a decent salary? Nope. Depends on what they are doing and who is paying them. Example: Pa Turnpike toll collectors should be paid $10 and hour plus benefits. 401K. No pension. How much do you make ridge? |
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Post by Bill on Dec 8, 2017 8:31:35 GMT -5
Then you have KECA finally, after all of these years, contributing to permanent land protection. But instead of making that land a part of a SGL or SF they go and deed it to themselves. Nobody will ever set foot on that land except for 'the connected'. Hell all of the land the visitor center sits on is state land but you have to stay on the paths. Pretty sure 'the connected' hunt on it during deer season. Wait, you can go off the paths if you pay $12.50 for a wagon ride. Lmao Gotta keep that money streaming in to pay huge salaries and spend thousands a pop to figure out what elk eat. Oh brother... Tell me more about the KECA buying land and keeping people off.I'm not doubting you,just not in the loop. What is there to explain? It's basically going to be the same as the land you're not allowed onto at the Visitor Center. |
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Post by dougell on Dec 8, 2017 8:45:22 GMT -5
Where is it and how much acreage?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 9:02:34 GMT -5
9 acres, adjacent to VC property.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 9:28:17 GMT -5
There will be no toll collectors soon Great! You know what the President of the Red Cross makes? What should the President of a multi-billion dollar business make? It takes money to get qualified people. |
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Post by dougell on Dec 8, 2017 10:04:59 GMT -5
If it's only 9 acres,I don't really give a royal flying fart but I guess I still see Bill's point.If it were a few hundred acres previously open to hunting and then shut down,I would have a problem with any "conservation"organization doing that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 10:09:12 GMT -5
I really am not sure where it is. If I had to guess I believe it is a steep drainage area on the left as you turn into the VC entrance going up hill. It is dark timber where elk like to hang out. Sometimes you see people stopped along the main road looking down in. That's my guess on where the 9ac is.
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 10, 2017 15:28:57 GMT -5
How much do you make ridge? Kinda a personal question, eh? |
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Post by ridgecommander on Dec 10, 2017 15:29:24 GMT -5
Great! You know what the President of the Red Cross makes? What should the President of a multi-billion dollar business make? It takes money to get qualified people. Its a charity. |
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