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Post by cspot on Aug 21, 2016 18:43:08 GMT -5
Wasn't planning on doing anything for this year at the Ohio camp, but temptation got the best of me. We do have a 1 acre field, but the camper is sitting on it and the neighbor puts up hay on it. Since the place was timbered 4 years ago there are some spots that are opened up, but boy are they thick with brush, old tree tops, and saplings. Picked a spot that doesn't lay that badly and decided to clear it. My son and I work on it Saturday and today. We finished about 1PM. We also cut a path in each direction to connect to two other logging roads that we had cleared this Spring. At my house in PA, I have a 65HP tractor w/loader and most of the implements needed to do the work. Unfortunately I can't haul that tractor with my truck and trailer so I am stuck with the Swisher mower, chainsaw, and a brush cutter on the weed wacker. I now have an appreciation of what some people go thru using small equipment like this. It took alot of work to get about a 1/4 acre or so cleared. If I had the tractor, we would have been done in a hour or two and wouldn't have broken a sweat. With now having a desk job, I am not in the best of shape and not used to the heat. I am feeling it this evening. Will be back down there for the labor day since squirrel season comes in. Plan on putting down winter wheat or rye, and will probably thrown in some clover seed. Will also set a blind up. Won't be able to till, but figure I will put the seed heavy and hope for the best. I have a tiller, but there are so many briar and tree stumps that it wouldn't work. Maybe in a year or two once they rot out. Plan on cutting more this winter to hopefully get it up to 1/2 acre or more.      |
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Post by bushmaster on Aug 21, 2016 18:58:32 GMT -5
Looks like you got a good start on it! Looks great, good luck on them tree rats Labor day weekend. Wish I could hunt them in PA that early!
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Post by cspot on Aug 21, 2016 19:07:18 GMT -5
Looks like you got a good start on it! Looks great, good luck on them tree rats Labor day weekend. Wish I could hunt them in PA that early! Thanks Bush. Yes we are excited to try the early squirrel season. Will probably just hunt the morning and evening as midday will probably still be pretty hot. |
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Post by Dutch on Aug 21, 2016 21:36:16 GMT -5
Maybe spray with Gly then throw the seed down? Can't hurt. Yep, that looks like quite a bit of work. That's why you had a son.  |
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Post by dougell on Aug 22, 2016 14:45:49 GMT -5
I did a hard to reach pipeline this past spring that was choked with autumn olive and brush hogged.I mowed it and sprayed it three weeks ago after I limed and fertilized it.I took a 4wheeler and chain harrow to it since there was no way to get a tractor in there.I spread some white ladino clover and winter rye last weekend and just flipped the chain harrow over and pushed the seed in as best I could.I checked on it yesterday and the clover is sprouted and the rye is about 4" tall after a week.When I started,it didn't look any different than your picture.
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Post by cspot on Aug 22, 2016 16:07:55 GMT -5
Maybe spray with Gly then throw the seed down? Can't hurt. Yep, that looks like quite a bit of work. That's why you had a son. The downside is with how nasty it was, I didn't want to turn him loose with the chainsaw or the brush mower. He did do alot of dragging and moving of logs though. Do you think I could hit with gly one day and plant the next? Would the gly hurt the germination of the seed. I will be there labor day weekend, but then won't be back until the last Saturday in September. The last Sat in September is the first day of archery, so that is out, so it is a one shot deal to get planted on labor day weekend. |
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Post by bushmaster on Aug 22, 2016 17:01:30 GMT -5
Maybe spray with Gly then throw the seed down? Can't hurt. Yep, that looks like quite a bit of work. That's why you had a son. The downside is with how nasty it was, I didn't want to turn him loose with the chainsaw or the brush mower. He did do alot of dragging and moving of logs though. Do you think I could hit with gly one day and plant the next? Would the gly hurt the germination of the seed. I will be there labor day weekend, but then won't be back until the last Saturday in September. The last Sat in September is the first day of archery, so that is out, so it is a one shot deal to get planted on labor day weekend. I'm thinking you have to wait 2 weeks before re-seeding after Gly. |
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Post by Dutch on Aug 22, 2016 17:16:42 GMT -5
You can spray and seed same day. Gly effects green growth, not seed
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Post by Dutch on Aug 22, 2016 17:18:06 GMT -5
Last week I seeded on Saturday, sprayed Sunday. The brassica is doing well.
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Post by bushmaster on Aug 22, 2016 17:54:20 GMT -5
Yep, I guess you can. I was thinking 2 weeks for good kill, prior to discing.
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Post by cspot on Aug 22, 2016 17:54:40 GMT -5
I will see. I may hit it with some gly.
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Post by Dutch on Aug 22, 2016 19:00:57 GMT -5
Yep, I guess you can. I was thinking 2 weeks for good kill, prior to discing. Yep! |
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Post by cspot on Sept 5, 2016 16:42:55 GMT -5
Well. Over the weekend we got the plot sprayed with gly on anything that was still green and planted clover and winter wheat. I seeded extremely heavy with both since there was no soil prep. It is really dry down in SE Ohio so hopefully it gets some rain this week. Lots of deer manure in the area so they have been checking out our work.   |
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Post by Dutch on Sept 5, 2016 18:17:25 GMT -5
Hope for a good heavy rain to drive that seed down.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
I thought I was seeding oats and rye this weekend. The bag I thought was rye, was more oats.
So, we got some Buck Forage oats down and regular horse oats.
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Post by cspot on Sept 25, 2016 13:48:54 GMT -5
Well I did get some germination, but alot of it is just coming thru the ground. Here is a pic of the best spot in the field. The deer are eating on it so that is a good thing. Still really dry in SE Ohio.  |
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Post by cspot on Oct 17, 2016 18:45:16 GMT -5
The plot is definitely looking better. The winter rye is doing well and based upon the trail cam pics the deer are hammering it. Here is a couple of pics that I took while hunting out of the blind on Sunday morning. Unfortunately I didn't see a deer. The clover also is starting to come thru the ground.   |
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Post by Dutch on Oct 17, 2016 18:51:30 GMT -5
Good deal!
My oats did poorly. Between the drought and the 11 turkeys in there, almost nothing survived.
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Post by cspot on Oct 17, 2016 19:04:16 GMT -5
It has been pretty dry down in Ohio as well. The turkeys didn't bother this much, but the songbirds were working hard on it. I was surprised how good of germination I got without working the soil. Of course I seeded extremely heavy. LOL.
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Post by Dutch on Oct 17, 2016 19:12:21 GMT -5
Thats the key, lots of seed. Can make up for little tillage
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Post by cspot on Oct 17, 2016 19:30:06 GMT -5
Actually that is winter wheat not winter rye, my mistake. I know we go nuts planting other species, but when it comes to a good fall plot for the money winter wheat or rye is hard to beat. Grows well in poor soil and is cheap. The one thing that probably helped this plot was alot of the decaying plant material probably provided some shade/moisture for the seeds. Yes lots of seeds definitely helps.
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Post by bowbum on Oct 18, 2016 13:31:41 GMT -5
Good luck with your efforts there Cspot. Lots of work there but Ohio is great!
My son called last week to tell me the guys who had the camp we used to hunt out of near Quaker City, OH called and wondered "why we hadn't been in touch."
The deal there was that the owner was a business associate of my son's. In time the guy actually went bankrupt and reorganized and my kid changed jobs and actually worked for his competition.
We thought he lost the hunting camp and 2,300 acres but it turned out that he sold off 1,100 acres and then the natural gas industry came to town and he made a few million by signing a lease and was able to hold on to 1,200 acres and the cabin.
Haven't had an invite and may not get one and I'll never complain if not, but the kid is having dinner with two of the sons in Gary, Indiana some time later this month. (They are no longer competitors)
Would be nice to get back out there.
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Post by cspot on Jan 22, 2017 15:59:58 GMT -5
Well got some of the stuff done on my list for the year. Got the plot we did last summer expanded out to where I wanted to go with it. Probably about 1/3 of an acre now. Once that was done I found an awesome spot that I am going to put a Redneck BLind in about 6' high or so off the ground. Also got the other plot that is located on a hogback in a hollow. It is probably a 1/4 acre or so. Both plots have some trees that I will end up removing in the next couple of years, but since this was timbered a few years ago the canopies aren't big so there will still be plenty of sun hitting the ground. Alot of blood and sweat went into cleaning these spots up as it was thick with saplings, briars, and tree tops. Old Plot Expansion.   New Plot   |
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Post by Dutch on Jan 22, 2017 18:10:52 GMT -5
You could drill and kill some of those trees.
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Post by cspot on Jan 22, 2017 18:51:48 GMT -5
You could drill and kill some of those trees. . Then they may fall and hit me in the stand. Lol. Will cut them down as needed for firewood for camp. |
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Post by Dutch on Jan 22, 2017 20:04:36 GMT -5
Drill and kill and you'll have dry wood when you need it and more sun this year.
Win/Win. LOL
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