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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 17:32:14 GMT -5
Any thoughts on this one?
Why did this suddenly become necessary?
Would etching your name and address on one of the ladder rails of a ladder stand be acceptable?
If not, how would you attach the tag?
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Post by cspot on Jul 19, 2015 18:23:58 GMT -5
I think you get can get a number like the trapping number from the PGC so your personal information isn't on the stand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 18:27:24 GMT -5
If it is on longer then you would like then take the thing and sooner or later they will learn.
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Post by davet on Jul 19, 2015 18:41:33 GMT -5
If you trap now, you certainly could scribe your trapping number on the stand. Of course, that would not prevent a thief from stealing your tree stand. They could simply grind off your number. Then again, if you put the number in enough places it would make it difficult. Then again, if they hang the stand on their private property, likely nobody would ever know it was a swiped stand.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jul 19, 2015 18:59:49 GMT -5
Any thoughts on this one? Why did this suddenly become necessary? My guess would be that in some SGL there is a ladder stand attached to every other tree, and a lot were just left there from year to year. The GC had no way to determine who they belong to, so they could fine them for breaking the law. Owner probably figured if it was gone next year, he would just buy another one. You can find them on sale for $100 and, $100 isn't that much money anymore for a lot of people.
Would etching your name and address on one of the ladder rails of a ladder stand be acceptable? You would think so, but the law says tag, so would depend on the person writing the ticket, would be my guess.
If not, how would you attach the tag?
If it was up to me I would of just outlawed them altogether. Those young enough could climb a tree if they wanted to get elevation. Those of us that are fast approaching the 1/4 mile club would need to adjust. I started out hunting sitting on a stump or against a tree, and will probably finish hunting the same way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 19:03:20 GMT -5
If it is on longer then you would like then take the thing and sooner or later they will learn. Just curious, stroupy. What would you want them to learn? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 19:17:33 GMT -5
If it is on longer then you would like then take the thing and sooner or later they will learn. Just curious, stroupy. What would you want them to learn? To take your stand out in a timely manner or lose it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 19:56:05 GMT -5
So you are advocating stealing someone else's property?
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Post by Dutch on Jul 19, 2015 21:37:05 GMT -5
The PGC removes them.
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Post by GlennD on Jul 20, 2015 6:20:44 GMT -5
I think if you leave a stand on public property, first come first served.
I also have no trouble with having a hunters name on a stand, although I see no need for another government program to issue and control tags. I put my name and phone number on all my stands with a marking pen. I usually mark in a couple places including eye level on a ladder rung.
If you leave a climber on public land and take the steps away, don't be mad if I climb a tree right next to you if I get there before you.
Seems simple enough to me.
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Post by Dutch on Jul 20, 2015 6:44:36 GMT -5
My long time thinking on stands on public land is this, I will respect the man, but not an empty stand.
If I get there and no one is around, I can hunt that spot. If someone is there, I move on.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 20, 2015 6:55:29 GMT -5
CID# should be fine. It is a unique number that identifies you but does not identify you to those that don't need to know.
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Post by cavscout19d on Jul 20, 2015 7:21:07 GMT -5
is this mandatory now? wasnt tracking that.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 20, 2015 8:27:57 GMT -5
is this mandatory now? wasnt tracking that. Only on SGLs and private property enrolled in a PGC access program. |
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Post by cavscout19d on Jul 20, 2015 8:43:31 GMT -5
Yeah just got done looking it up. i feel as if they wolnt be able to enforce this law. The only way would be to catch someone hunting from an untagged one or stake out when they find an untagged one. but if their "busy" to stake out a permanently built structure on SGL's they defiantly wolnt do it for a treestand ID tag. In the wake of decreasing license sales they are looking for more and more ways to increase revenue.
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Post by Muab Dib on Jul 20, 2015 10:46:36 GMT -5
I applaud the new law. It's directed at those who feel they can break the law and leave their stands out in public woods year round either through laziness, a lack of responsibility, or trying to "claim" a spot. If one finds a stand on public land outside of the time frame the law allows stands erected, then a simple notation of the CID number (or whatever number is used) and a phone call to the PGC giving number and location, will enable the PGC to contact the owner and ask that the stand be removed. The PGC should advise the owner that if not removed, it will be removed. Simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 11:51:29 GMT -5
So you are advocating stealing someone else's property? Is it considered stealing if the PGC takes it off the game lands? I would take it off and have a spot to pick it up with a fine waiting for those who don't comply. I take my stand on state forest and the last day I need it comes off with me. Not hard to do. |
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Post by davet on Jul 20, 2015 12:27:21 GMT -5
Ok....somebody has to help me out here. Is there a new reg on the use of tree stands? Or when to take them down? Or a reg on the attachment of who ownes 'em? Can ya give a guy a link??
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Post by dougell on Jul 20, 2015 13:24:55 GMT -5
My long time thinking on stands on public land is this, I will respect the man, but not an empty stand. If I get there and no one is around, I can hunt that spot. If someone is there, I move on. While I believe it is ignorant to leave stands on public land for long durations of time,I don't agree that it's OK to use someone else's property.I drive my truck on public roads and park in public parking lots.If I found someone sitting in my truck,the conversation would be just as unpleasant as if I found them in my stand.I don't leave stands on public property for a couple of reasons.First,I don't want it to get stolen and second,I don't want anyone to know where I hunt.I don't even gut deer where I shoot them.If I see someone else has a stand where I want to hunt,I may hunt close but I'm not climbing in it and I'll most likely relocate.I expect the same courtesy.Seriously,If I found someone in one of my stands,it would get ugly real fast and I'm not a very confrontational guy.Leave my stuff alone. |
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Post by Dutch on Jul 20, 2015 13:27:02 GMT -5
I'm saying that if I sit in the area of a stand, the guy has no right to be upset, if I got there first.
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Post by dougell on Jul 20, 2015 14:01:52 GMT -5
Agree.That goes without saying.However,if someone put's their stinky butt in my stand and I find them,it's getting unpleasant.
I had a guy blow a gasket one time because he put a stand about 100 yards away from where I had a ladder stick on Treasure lake property.He tried to say I put it 10 yards away from his stand but it was closer to 100 yards and I put it there first.I conceded the spot to him even though I'd hunted it for years.I told him I'd move it when I had time but it would be several weeks.I even gave the guy my phone number in case he needed help getting a deer out.I couldn't have been any nicer to the guy especially since he lied to begin with.Well,he ended up stealing it and I blew a gasket.The coward wouldn't answer his door so I had him arrested.I had no proof that he actually stole it but the pinhead admitted it to the cops.I hate it when people touch my stuff.
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Post by davet on Jul 20, 2015 14:08:45 GMT -5
I'm saying that if I sit in the area of a stand, the guy has no right to be upset, if I got there first. I would agree. Just because a guy puts his stand in a place doesn't mean he has claimed "ownership" of that space whenever he chooses to show up. |
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Post by Dutch on Jul 20, 2015 14:17:34 GMT -5
I'm saying that if I sit in the area of a stand, the guy has no right to be upset, if I got there first. I would agree. Just because a guy puts his stand in a place doesn't mean he has claimed "ownership" of that space whenever he chooses to show up. Many think that way. Ten years ago I scouted a nice slot on public land. Went to bowhunt and there was a stand there. I climbed a tree close by, the one I scouted. Idiot shows up and reams me for hunting "his" spot. Sorry. |
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Post by bawanajim on Jul 20, 2015 14:37:09 GMT -5
It surprise's me how confrontational folks will get when they are dealing with an armed stranger. A bit of planning and co operation is a wiser approach to dealing with folks you know nothing about.I have both the police and the PGC on speed dial, handcuffs changes attitudes very rapidly.
I'm guessing one of these confrontations is what caused the archer to be shot out of a tree stand a few years back, and the shooter was never identified.
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Post by davet on Jul 20, 2015 15:34:34 GMT -5
You may be speaking of this Salzburg man: link I will tell you this: I know a few people out in that area that are so deer crazy that I would no be surprised if they did it. These "club members" measure there manhood annually around the fact of if they do or do not harvest a buck. Reporting the kill to the PGC is never done by this little click, but they will kill only one. They do make up their own "deer rules" and if they don't like someone, they will absolutely run them out of there little club. |
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