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Mar 31, 2024 9:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dutch on Mar 31, 2024 9:49:51 GMT -5
“Supporting the truth, even when it is unpopular, shows the capacity for honesty and integrity.”
Steve Brunkhorst
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Mar 31, 2024 10:33:41 GMT -5
Post by rusty on Mar 31, 2024 10:33:41 GMT -5
And, is one who supports or helps spread the lies of another not just as guilty as the one who told the lie in the first place?
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Post by jwk on Mar 31, 2024 10:44:17 GMT -5
And, is one who supports or helps spread the lies of another not just as guilty as the one who told the lie in the first place? I think so.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 11:20:34 GMT -5
Whos is the judge to determine if something is a lie or not? Is their a magical God that floats down from the clouds that tell's someone if it's true or a lie? The God's name is probably Liz Cheney.
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Post by rusty on Mar 31, 2024 13:01:00 GMT -5
You really don't know the definition of truth and lies stroupy? Unless you confuse truth and lies with opinion and suspicion, truth and lies are black and white, cut and dried, facts.
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 31, 2024 13:15:39 GMT -5
Whos is the judge to determine if something is a lie or not? Is there a magical God that floats down from the clouds that tell's someone if it's true or a lie? LOL. Come on, man...... With the above said, there is a difference between telling mistruths on purpose and telling mistruths because one does not know any better. I can forgive someone that does not know any better, but I expect them to man or woman up when the truth is established.
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Mar 31, 2024 13:36:38 GMT -5
Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 13:36:38 GMT -5
You really don't know the definition of truth and lies stroupy? Unless you confuse truth and lies with opinion and suspicion, truth and lies are black and white, cut and dried, facts. When is comes to politics and logic and everything apparentley I don't know. It's too hard to keep up with everybody standards that they change on daily basis depending on how the wind blows.
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Mar 31, 2024 13:37:21 GMT -5
Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 13:37:21 GMT -5
Whos is the judge to determine if something is a lie or not? Is there a magical God that floats down from the clouds that tell's someone if it's true or a lie? LOL. Come on, man...... With the above said, there is a difference between telling mistruths on purpose and telling mistruths because one does not know any better. I can forgive someone that does not know any better, but I expect them to man or woman up when the truth is established. i guess if I was like you I would just start slinging lie accusastions and stick my head in the sand when someone tries to explain the context of the discussion to me...
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Post by davet on Mar 31, 2024 15:45:47 GMT -5
You really don't know the definition of truth and lies stroupy? Unless you confuse truth and lies with opinion and suspicion, truth and lies are black and white, cut and dried, facts. When is comes to politics and logic and everything apparentley I don't know. It's too hard to keep up with everybody standards that they change on daily basis depending on how the wind blows. It's called logic and conclusions. At least in my household\group\family\etc it is. Different sources are "digested" and conclusions are drawn. If you can't discern fact from fiction, truth from lies, then you will have a difficult time moving forward in life.
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 31, 2024 16:18:31 GMT -5
i guess if I was like you I would just start slinging lie accusastions and stick my head in the sand when someone tries to explain the context of the discussion to me... LOL. You are trying to talk about lying and context after making these comments......... You are the last person that should be trying to explain truth, lies and context if the above are your words.
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Mar 31, 2024 16:36:26 GMT -5
Post by rusty on Mar 31, 2024 16:36:26 GMT -5
LOL. Come on, man...... With the above said, there is a difference between telling mistruths on purpose and telling mistruths because one does not know any better. I can forgive someone that does not know any better, but I expect them to man or woman up when the truth is established. i guess if I was like you I would just start slinging lie accusastions and stick my head in the sand when someone tries to explain the context of the discussion to me... If you do not stick your head in the sand when trumps lies and misdeeds are brought up, you must at least stick your fingers in your ears and say "nananananaaaa" to protect yourself from many truths.
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Mar 31, 2024 16:45:14 GMT -5
Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 16:45:14 GMT -5
When is comes to politics and logic and everything apparentley I don't know. It's too hard to keep up with everybody standards that they change on daily basis depending on how the wind blows. It's called logic and conclusions. At least in my household\group\family\etc it is. Different sources are "digested" and conclusions are drawn. If you can't discern fact from fiction, truth from lies, then you will have a difficult time moving forward in life. lol, I am probably the most truthful person you will ever run into. I always say if my kids screw up I won't make excuses for them. I don't even lie for myself. I also see the hysteria pointed only in one direction for about 9 years now. Hysteria, after hysteria like I am supposed to just believe the bull after years and years of dishonest hysteria coming from the likes of Cheney and other swamp creatures that you adore.
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Mar 31, 2024 16:49:58 GMT -5
Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 16:49:58 GMT -5
i guess if I was like you I would just start slinging lie accusastions and stick my head in the sand when someone tries to explain the context of the discussion to me... LOL. You are trying to talk about lying and context after making these comments......... You are the last person that should be trying to explain truth, lies and context if the above are your words. I stand by that statement. For the king of twist and trying to back everyone in a corner, it's never what you said, no one ever answers your questions. I think I will look to a few others before I start taking lessons of truthfulness other then yourself. You are the king of the twist the modern day Chubby Checker. After seeing the bull of the last 9 years I would definitely say lies don't stick out like everyone thinks. It's amazing the orange man is the first guy who I ever heard of who spoke his mind without fear of or hesitation that has been labeled a liar. Now that's the funny part of it all.
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Mar 31, 2024 16:53:08 GMT -5
Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 16:53:08 GMT -5
i guess if I was like you I would just start slinging lie accusastions and stick my head in the sand when someone tries to explain the context of the discussion to me... If you do not stick your head in the sand when trumps lies and misdeeds are brought up, you must at least stick your fingers in your ears and say "nananananaaaa" to protect yourself from many truths. Maybe that was possible about 999 fake hysterias ago. Now nobody listens to it because you cried way too many times now everyone is in a cult. Like a Parrot once again cult,cult,cult.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:00:55 GMT -5
Post by ridgecommander on Mar 31, 2024 18:00:55 GMT -5
I stand by that statement. Of course you do. You have no other choice. Well, there is another choice but that isn't in your wheelhouse.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:41:51 GMT -5
Post by stroupy on Mar 31, 2024 18:41:51 GMT -5
I stand by that statement. Of course you do. You have no other choice. Well, there is another choice but that isn't in your wheelhouse. lol, I at least throw my opinions out in the open you went from accusing everyone that they don't answer your questions to now only answering ones that are low risk so you don't get exposed. I remember when you were on the kick where answers had to be yes or no and no one was allowed to put an explanation behind it like everyone was taught in school. Another tactic to back someone in a corner.
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Mar 31, 2024 19:32:27 GMT -5
Post by ridgecommander on Mar 31, 2024 19:32:27 GMT -5
I at least throw my opinions out in the open you went from accusing everyone that they don't answer your questions to now only answering ones that are low risk so you don't get exposed. Low risk? If I see a question asked of me I will answer it. As I said before, I have to know if it is a question though............... Ask me a "high risk" question. Whatever that is. Shutting down for the evening. I will check back tomorrow for that high risk question and answer it. If I miss it, PM me the question and what thread it is in.
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Apr 1, 2024 5:01:05 GMT -5
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 5:01:05 GMT -5
I at least throw my opinions out in the open you went from accusing everyone that they don't answer your questions to now only answering ones that are low risk so you don't get exposed. Low risk? If I see a question asked of me I will answer it. As I said before, I have to know if it is a question though............... Ask me a "high risk" question. Whatever that is. Shutting down for the evening. I will check back tomorrow for that high risk question and answer it. If I miss it, PM me the question and what thread it is in. One of the rare times I'll give you an article anymore but this is what you do explained in a way better than I can. This is you calling "a spade, a spade" www.brendanmooney.net/why-taking-things-out-of-context-is-worse-than-outright-lies--brendan-mooney-psychologist.html
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 1, 2024 6:20:15 GMT -5
Not sure what your point is. I agree with you that taking things out of context is dangerous and have said so here. I have posted the entire context for discussion and have no problem with context. As an example, the Putin commnets about NATO. The entire context and statement was posted. You insisted he didn't mean what he said. Putting your "twist" on it, which is something you say is dishonest. BTW, did I miss the "high risk" questions?
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Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 7:24:24 GMT -5
Excuses must always be made for Trumps "he didn't mean that....he ment this" comments.
I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he ment?
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Post by jwk on Apr 1, 2024 7:37:30 GMT -5
Excuses must always be made for Trumps "he didn't mean that....he ment this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he ment? You never see the hypocrisy in your statements do you?
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Post by fleroo on Apr 1, 2024 8:12:13 GMT -5
Why am I suddenly hungry for a nice, ripe, Banana ?
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Post by dougl on Apr 1, 2024 8:18:17 GMT -5
Is there any truth anywhere today?
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Post by Dutch on Apr 1, 2024 9:34:36 GMT -5
Is there any truth anywhere today? As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The far right is wrong, as well as the far left. AOC and MTG really are both equally dangerous
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Apr 1, 2024 11:35:27 GMT -5
Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 11:35:27 GMT -5
Excuses must always be made for Trumps "he didn't mean that....he ment this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he ment? You never see the hypocrisy in your statements do you? No, but please do point that out.
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