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Post by jwk on Apr 1, 2024 12:31:37 GMT -5
You never see the hypocrisy in your statements do you? No, but please do point that out. Excuses must always be made for Biden's "he didn't mean that....he meant this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he meant?
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Post by rusty on Apr 1, 2024 13:48:20 GMT -5
No, but please do point that out. Excuses must always be made for Biden's "he didn't mean that....he meant this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he meant? Can you quote some of the most obvious examples? I hear the excuse for trumps gaffs often, some are believable, many are not.
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Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 14:57:07 GMT -5
No, but please do point that out. Excuses must always be made for Biden's "he didn't mean that....he meant this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he meant? I don't provide any excuses for what Biden has said. So how is that " hypocrisy"? I could understand it if I constantly had to restate the meaning of a Biden statement.....but I don't. I never have. I'm thinking you have me confused with someone else.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 15:26:58 GMT -5
Not sure what your point is. I agree with you that taking things out of context is dangerous and have said so here. I have posted the entire context for discussion and have no problem with context. As an example, the Putin commnets about NATO. The entire context and statement was posted. You insisted he didn't mean what he said. Putting your "twist" on it, which is something you say is dishonest. BTW, did I miss the "high risk" questions? I didn't put any twist on the Putin comments you did. He was talking about a private conversation and a tactic he used to get the people to pay more. Thats the context if the discussion. He's probably did similar things running a business. You put your spin on it to create another hysteria and something to complain about once again.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 15:28:02 GMT -5
Excuses must always be made for Trumps "he didn't mean that....he ment this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he ment? When the people are looking to nitpick everything the guys says yes its easy to answer the way you did.
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Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 15:33:54 GMT -5
Excuses must always be made for Trumps "he didn't mean that....he ment this" comments. I figure how bright can a guy be if he constantly has to have his "team" and\or his "supporters" re-define what he ment? When the people are looking to nitpick everything the guys says yes its easy to answer the way you did. "Nitpick"....honestly, that's really funny!
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 15:37:16 GMT -5
When the people are looking to nitpick everything the guys says yes its easy to answer the way you did. "Nitpick"....honestly, that's really funny! Yep, nitpick his every word and the guy stands his ground. He's only come out stronger no matter what they pull. Stephen A Smith even said they probably just jolted him into the Whitehouse because of their stupidity. Last year I didn't think he was going to get back in now I giggle because he's going yo win. Mail in votes and all. Get your gift cards ready.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 1, 2024 15:50:32 GMT -5
I didn't put any twist on the Putin comments you did. All I asked was if you had a problem with the comments. I said the comments were dangerous. Not sure that I twisted the comments any way within the context of his speech. So this "private conversation" occured at a different time than when Trump made the Putin comments which was during a public event? Correct me if I am wrong here. In this private conversation, Trump told a NATO leader he would not defend them if they did not pay their fair share. Did he tell the same leader in that conversation that he would "encourage" Russia to do whatever the hell they wanted to?
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Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 15:51:20 GMT -5
Well....the fundamental reason I will never vote for Trump is a direct result of what he did and did not do on January 6th. Period, end of story.
All of his statements since are tainted by his behavior on that day. All the lies associated with the rigged election were proven false and even one (of his many) attorneys in court admitted the election was not rigged.
The man wanted to hold onto the power of the Presidency under any means that he could. The fact that he's running again causes me to believe he wants a second chance at a "President for life" and he will do anything he can to obtain that.
He's been proven in court to lie for his benefit just as he lied to attempt to keep in power.
This is your guy....this one.
On March 11, 2024 this from CNN: Viktor Orbán is taking his blueprint on dismantling democracy to Mar-a-Lago.
The Hungarian prime minister first won power through a democratic election, then proceeded to weaken the institutions of that democracy by eroding the legal system, firing civil servants, politicizing business, attacking the press and intimidating opposition parties and demagoguing migration.
Former President Donald Trump has left no doubt that he’d try something similar in the United States if he wins a second term – so the presumptive GOP nominee will presumably be eager to compare notes when he hosts Orbán in Florida on Friday.
The prime minister isn’t meeting Biden administration officials. (A Biden administration official told CNN’s Betsy Klein that no invitation for a meeting between the current US president and Hungarian leader was extended.) Instead, he’s choosing to meet the man he hopes will again be US president next year. The two men have a long history of mutual admiration. The fact that one of Trump’s first moves since becoming presumptive GOP nominee this week is to meet a European autocrat speaks volumes.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 16:27:52 GMT -5
I didn't put any twist on the Putin comments you did. All I asked was if you had a problem with the comments. I said the comments were dangerous. Not sure that I twisted the comments any way within the context of his speech. So this "private conversation" occured at a different time than when Trump made the Putin comments which was during a public event? Correct me if I am wrong here. In this private conversation, Trump told a NATO leader he would not defend them if they did not pay their fair share. Did he tell the same leader in that conversation that he would "encourage" Russia to do whatever the hell they wanted to? Apparently he did as he did say it. Didn't mean he meant it if he was trying to get them to pay up. A tactic that many have used over the years I'm sure. No I don't think it's dangerous when Putin does what he wants to do. At least when the swamp critters are back in office.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 16:30:50 GMT -5
Well....the fundamental reason I will never vote for Trump is a direct result of what he did and did not do on January 6th. Period, end of story. All of his statements since are tainted by his behavior on that day. All the lies associated with the rigged election were proven false and even one (of his many) attorneys in court admitted the election was not rigged. The man wanted to hold onto the power of the Presidency under any means that he could. The fact that he's running again causes me to believe he wants a second chance at a "President for life" and he will do anything he can to obtain that. He's been proven in court to lie for his benefit just as he lied to attempt to keep in power. This is your guy....this one. On March 11, 2024 this from CNN: Viktor Orbán is taking his blueprint on dismantling democracy to Mar-a-Lago.The Hungarian prime minister first won power through a democratic election, then proceeded to weaken the institutions of that democracy by eroding the legal system, firing civil servants, politicizing business, attacking the press and intimidating opposition parties and demagoguing migration.
Former President Donald Trump has left no doubt that he’d try something similar in the United States if he wins a second term – so the presumptive GOP nominee will presumably be eager to compare notes when he hosts Orbán in Florida on Friday.
The prime minister isn’t meeting Biden administration officials. (A Biden administration official told CNN’s Betsy Klein that no invitation for a meeting between the current US president and Hungarian leader was extended.) Instead, he’s choosing to meet the man he hopes will again be US president next year. The two men have a long history of mutual admiration. The fact that one of Trump’s first moves since becoming presumptive GOP nominee this week is to meet a European autocrat speaks volumes.Many people disagree with you on the threat to democracy at least half the voting base between independents, democrats and Republicans. You've been sold a load of goods. Pretty bad Biden has no respect from the rest of the world I thought that was Trump?
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Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 17:03:43 GMT -5
Are you saying he didn’t meet with Orban? Or is that just one more question to ignore?
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 17:12:51 GMT -5
Are you saying he didn’t meet with Orban? Or is that just one more question to ignore? No he met with him. Mayne he knows that Trump should be the president still. I'll finally answer your speculative question. Trump was probably wishing they would stop and probably had the light bulb go off as to why Pelosi refused the national guard. If you can answer in a biased way I might as well too. Maybe that magical guy in the sky can now float down and tell us which one if us is right on this.
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Post by davet on Apr 1, 2024 17:25:31 GMT -5
Are you saying he didn’t meet with Orban? Or is that just one more question to ignore? No he met with him. Mayne he knows that Trump should be the president still. I'll finally answer your speculative question. Trump was probably wishing they would stop and probably had the light bulb go off as to why Pelosi refused the national guard. If you can answer in a biased way I might as well too. Maybe that magical guy in the sky can now float down and tell us which one if us is right on this. Your responses get more and more bizarre. I think maybe Trump was inquiring how to be a dictator in one easy lesson.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 1, 2024 17:25:50 GMT -5
Orban is the master of taking over a Country and dismantling the opposition. He's definitely giving Trump the playbook
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Post by stroupy on Apr 1, 2024 18:57:06 GMT -5
No he met with him. Mayne he knows that Trump should be the president still. I'll finally answer your speculative question. Trump was probably wishing they would stop and probably had the light bulb go off as to why Pelosi refused the national guard. If you can answer in a biased way I might as well too. Maybe that magical guy in the sky can now float down and tell us which one if us is right on this. Your responses get more and more bizarre. I think maybe Trump was inquiring how to be a dictator in one easy lesson. Most of these conversations are bizarre.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 1, 2024 19:59:51 GMT -5
Are you saying he didn’t meet with Orban? Or is that just one more question to ignore? No he met with him. Mayne he knows that Trump should be the president still. I'll finally answer your speculative question. Trump was probably wishing they would stop and probably had the light bulb go off as to why Pelosi refused the national guard. If you can answer in a biased way I might as well too. Maybe that magical guy in the sky can now float down and tell us which one if us is right on this. Pelosi had no control over the national guard apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 1, 2024 20:54:23 GMT -5
The truth is still the truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it. – Unknown
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Post by Dutch on Apr 1, 2024 23:16:55 GMT -5
The truth is still the truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it. – Unknown And Trump has far to many believing his lies are the truth. He lost, it wasn't rigged. He lost. It's time for the crybaby to accept it. He's a narcissist, a whiner, and a crybaby. The fact he has taken over a party, just like the 30s in Germany, worry the hel* out of me.
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Post by davet on Apr 2, 2024 4:20:44 GMT -5
Are you saying he didn’t meet with Orban? Or is that just one more question to ignore? No he met with him. Mayne he knows that Trump should be the president still. I'll finally answer your speculative question. Trump was probably wishing they would stop and probably had the light bulb go off as to why Pelosi refused the national guard. If you can answer in a biased way I might as well too. Maybe that magical guy in the sky can now float down and tell us which one if us is right on this. Wait....."Trump was probably wishing they would stop"? Really....you believe he was sitting there like a kid who just lost a tooth and was "wishing" he would get a $1 from the tooth fairy? The most powerful man on the planet was "wishing" they would stop? This is cult thinking. To the max.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 2, 2024 5:01:56 GMT -5
No he met with him. Mayne he knows that Trump should be the president still. I'll finally answer your speculative question. Trump was probably wishing they would stop and probably had the light bulb go off as to why Pelosi refused the national guard. If you can answer in a biased way I might as well too. Maybe that magical guy in the sky can now float down and tell us which one if us is right on this. Wait....."Trump was probably wishing they would stop"? Really....you believe he was sitting there like a kid who just lost a tooth and was "wishing" he would get a $1 from the tooth fairy? The most powerful man on the planet was "wishing" they would stop? This is cult thinking. To the max. No it was the answer I pulled out of my rear end to try to appease your speculative question. Saying he's Hitler is far left and just utter nonsense. It's not being as what the life is gooder thread claims to be at all its batsh*t crazy is what's more like it. The media has a full fist grip on some of you guys and moderate is not in your vocabulary. Throw that out.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 2, 2024 5:51:59 GMT -5
The truth is still the truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it. – Unknown And Trump has far to many believing his lies are the truth. He lost, it wasn't rigged. He lost. It's time for the crybaby to accept it. He's a narcissist, a whiner, and a crybaby. The fact he has taken over a party, just like the 30s in Germany, worry the hel* out of me. He has completely taken over the Party like nothing I've ever seen before
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Post by davet on Apr 2, 2024 5:55:59 GMT -5
And Trump has far to many believing his lies are the truth. He lost, it wasn't rigged. He lost. It's time for the crybaby to accept it. He's a narcissist, a whiner, and a crybaby. The fact he has taken over a party, just like the 30s in Germany, worry the hel* out of me. He has completely taken over the Party like nothing I've ever seen before Historically it's happened in other countries.
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Post by davet on Apr 2, 2024 5:58:04 GMT -5
Wait....."Trump was probably wishing they would stop"? Really....you believe he was sitting there like a kid who just lost a tooth and was "wishing" he would get a $1 from the tooth fairy? The most powerful man on the planet was "wishing" they would stop? This is cult thinking. To the max. No it was the answer I pulled out of my rear end to try to appease your speculative question. Saying he's Hitler is far left and just utter nonsense. It's not being as what the life is gooder thread claims to be at all its batsh*t crazy is what's more like it. The media has a full fist grip on some of you guys and moderate is not in your vocabulary. Throw that out. So, you're saying it just "something to make the question go away"? Instead of honestly answering the question you made this up....like "the dog ate my homework" kind of thing. Again, only because you refuse to answer it honestly. If you do you won't like the conclusion you come to.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 2, 2024 6:20:04 GMT -5
No I don't think it's dangerous when Putin does what he wants to do. At least when the swamp critters are back in office. So you don't believe Putin has ever been pursuaded to not move forward with his wishes?
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