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Post by Dutch on Mar 24, 2024 10:16:19 GMT -5
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Post by moosemike on Mar 24, 2024 11:26:08 GMT -5
It's easy for him to say. His knees and shoulders aren't shot from manual labor. If I had spent my life writing articles and conducting interviews I'd probably wax eloquently about people working beyond 65 as well. But as it is I honestly don't think my body is going to hold out even to 62. And I like to work but it's becoming very painful for me to do it
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Post by Dutch on Mar 24, 2024 12:14:53 GMT -5
It's easy for him to say. His knees and shoulders aren't shot from manual labor. If I had spent my life writing articles and conducting interviews I'd probably wax eloquently about people working beyond 65 as well. But as it is I honestly don't think my body is going to hold out even to 62. And I like to work but it's becoming very painful for me to do it I read an article the other week that said the best age to draw was 70, well those that beat up their bodies in the trades don't generally have that luxury.
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Post by davet on Mar 24, 2024 13:24:01 GMT -5
Well....in all fairness, the guy who made the comment is a lawyer. There's that.........
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Post by stroupy on Mar 24, 2024 13:35:50 GMT -5
I don't like Shapiro one bit. Even though I'll work until I drop probably unless my body gives out that I can't. I can't sit still. I eventually want to retire and the earlier the better. Like you guys said you can't get your time back.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 24, 2024 14:16:18 GMT -5
The only person that knows when the best time to retire is YOU!! You will know when it's time. There's way, way too many variables to even attempt trying to "cookie cut".
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Post by Dutch on Mar 24, 2024 15:40:58 GMT -5
I guess the real issue is that when SS was set up, retirement age was 65 and the average lifespan was 60.
In 1983, after I joined the system, they raised my full retirement age from 65 to 67. That also lowered the amount I would get at 62.
Anyway, the system needs a new fix or it has to reduce benefits.
Should we again raise the age and also raise taxes, like we did in 1983, or should it just be age OR taxes?
Should we also include decreasing the benefit, by a small amount as well?
All three of those items could produce the needed stabilization
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Post by Dutch on Mar 24, 2024 15:43:42 GMT -5
The only person that knows when the best time to retire is YOU!!Β You will know when it's time. There's way, way too many variables to even attempt trying to "cookie cut".Β Β Just like life, lots of variables and it's crazy to try to figure it all out. You are right, you'll know, but it's still a little scary
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Post by stroupy on Mar 24, 2024 17:21:12 GMT -5
I guess the real issue is that when SS was set up, retirement age was 65 and the average lifespan was 60. In 1983, after I joined the system, they raised my full retirement age from 65 to 67. That also lowered the amount I would get at 62. Anyway, the system needs a new fix or it has to reduce benefits. Should we again raise the age and also raise taxes, like we did in 1983, or should it just be age OR taxes? Should we also include decreasing the benefit, by a small amount as well? All three of those items could produce the needed stabilization We just talked about this at the gun club today. Some people thought that SS was going to be a retirement but it isn't it's a supplemental income that is only there to help the elderly. I think some of the blame is people are just dumb sometimes and some is the politicians lying to people about it. If only they started finding ways so people can work and retire at 60 and be okay. I know sometimes I sound like a damn socialist.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 24, 2024 17:27:10 GMT -5
Yes, you are a Socialist. Own it. A good Republican will work until they die. π
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Post by stroupy on Mar 24, 2024 17:49:30 GMT -5
Yes, you are a Socialist. Own it. A good Republican will work until they die. π Well I probably am the guy just dumb enough to do that...
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Post by davet on Mar 24, 2024 18:24:01 GMT -5
Yes, you are a Socialist. Own it. A good Republican will work until they die. π Well I probably am the guy just dumb enough to do that... I wouldn't describe you as dumb. Stubborn for sure.....but far from dumb.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 24, 2024 19:13:37 GMT -5
Well I probably am the guy just dumb enough to do that... I wouldn't describe you as dumb. Stubborn for sure.....but far from dumb. Sometimes I do stuff that makes me shake my head at myself but it's not because I am dumb it's because I get impatient and rush a little too much at times. As for stubborn Dutch is the stubborn one... I am not stubborn no siree.... I actually saw a good reel the other day it was Jeff Foxworthy on politics. He made a great point. He said most people in this country all want the same things in life and we probably agree on 80% of things but we will argue all day over the 20% of things that we don't agree on. It's kind of hard to argue with him on it.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 24, 2024 20:21:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't describe you as dumb. Stubborn for sure.....but far from dumb. Sometimes I do stuff that makes me shake my head at myself but it's not because I am dumb it's because I get impatient and rush a little too much at times. As for stubborn Dutch is the stubborn one... I am not stubborn no siree.... I actually saw a good reel the other day it was Jeff Foxworthy on politics. He made a great point. He said most people in this country all want the same things in life and we probably agree on 80% of things but we will argue all day over the 20% of things that we don't agree on. It's kind of hard to argue with him on it.Β I'd argue with him. ππππ
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Post by stroupy on Mar 25, 2024 7:08:29 GMT -5
Sometimes I do stuff that makes me shake my head at myself but it's not because I am dumb it's because I get impatient and rush a little too much at times. As for stubborn Dutch is the stubborn one... I am not stubborn no siree.... I actually saw a good reel the other day it was Jeff Foxworthy on politics. He made a great point. He said most people in this country all want the same things in life and we probably agree on 80% of things but we will argue all day over the 20% of things that we don't agree on. It's kind of hard to argue with him on it. I'd argue with him. ππππ I know you would you stubborn ol codger....
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 25, 2024 9:02:47 GMT -5
I have been retired since January 2007, 17 years. When I first retired, for the most part, I was in good mental and physical shape, and I did whatever I wanted to do. Fast forward 17 years. I'm not as sharp as I once was, takes me a little longer to do mental tasks, and I'm forgetting where my glasses are constantly.π€£ I have lost a good portion of my physical strength. It takes me longer to do physical tasks and some I just no longer can do. Due to back problems, I now wattle like a duck when I walk without a walking stick or cane, and I wear an elastic back brace most of the time. I also no longer can lie down to sleep, but spend my nights in a recliner chair. I'm not writing this to tell you about all my woes, I still do, for the most part, what I'm happy doing, and can do. I'm just saying don't expect to be able to continue vigorously what you like doing in your old age forever, especially if it physical, not going to happen. Retire when you can afford to do it, and want to. Just don't retire to the rocking chair. Continue doing what you love to do, or do what you always wanted to but never had the time. I'm happy I retired when I did, it's been a hoot. I have never once gotten up in the morning since retiring and said, "Gee I wish I was going to work at the airport today" and I liked my job, at the airport."π€£ Retirement should be your time in life when you get to do exactly what you want to do, when you want to do it, how you want to do it, and completely on your terms. No bosses, this time, well maybe a little input and agreement from the wife.π
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Post by bushmaster on Mar 25, 2024 10:19:43 GMT -5
I hope to retire at 62. I got to much to do. No time for work.
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Post by davet on Mar 25, 2024 12:12:19 GMT -5
I have been retired since January 2007, 17 years. When I first retired, for the most part, I was in good mental and physical shape, and I did whatever I wanted to do. Fast forward 17 years. I'm not as sharp as I once was, takes me a little longer to do mental tasks, and I'm forgetting where my glasses are constantly.π€£ I have lost a good portion of my physical strength. It takes me longer to do physical tasks and some I just no longer can do. Due to back problems, I now wattle like a duck when I walk without a walking stick or cane, and I wear an elastic back brace most of the time. I also no longer can lie down to sleep, but spend my nights in a recliner chair. I'm not writing this to tell you about all my woes, I still do, for the most part, what I'm happy doing, and can do. I'm just saying don't expect to be able to continue vigorously what you like doing in your old age forever, especially if it physical, not going to happen. Retire when you can afford to do it, and want to. Just don't retire to the rocking chair. Continue doing what you love to do, or do what you always wanted to but never had the time. I'm happy I retired when I did, it's been a hoot. I have never once gotten up in the morning since retiring and said, "Gee I wish I was going to work at the airport today" and I liked my job, at the airport."π€£ Retirement should be your time in life when you get to do exactly what you want to do, when you want to do it, how you want to do it, and completely on your terms. No bosses, this time, well maybe a little input and agreement from the wife.π Never be concerned about what you canβt do. Just focus on what you can do.
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Post by rusty on Mar 25, 2024 13:02:54 GMT -5
I have been retired since January 2007, 17 years. When I first retired, for the most part, I was in good mental and physical shape, and I did whatever I wanted to do. Fast forward 17 years. I'm not as sharp as I once was, takes me a little longer to do mental tasks, and I'm forgetting where my glasses are constantly.π€£ I have lost a good portion of my physical strength. It takes me longer to do physical tasks and some I just no longer can do. Due to back problems, I now wattle like a duck when I walk without a walking stick or cane, and I wear an elastic back brace most of the time. I also no longer can lie down to sleep, but spend my nights in a recliner chair. I'm not writing this to tell you about all my woes, I still do, for the most part, what I'm happy doing, and can do. I'm just saying don't expect to be able to continue vigorously what you like doing in your old age forever, especially if it physical, not going to happen. Retire when you can afford to do it, and want to. Just don't retire to the rocking chair. Continue doing what you love to do, or do what you always wanted to but never had the time. I'm happy I retired when I did, it's been a hoot. I have never once gotten up in the morning since retiring and said, "Gee I wish I was going to work at the airport today" and I liked my job, at the airport."π€£ Retirement should be your time in life when you get to do exactly what you want to do, when you want to do it, how you want to do it, and completely on your terms. No bosses, this time, well maybe a little input and agreement from the wife.π Never be concerned about what you canβt do. Just focus on what you can do. That's good advice but hard to accept. I'm only 62 but I have a lot that I need to get done. There are days when the pain my lower back, my right shoulder and my hands make somethings near impossible to do. When I was younger and took pride in the heavy work I could do, my dad would warn me that my I would pay for it later in life with a bad back. I wish I had listened. If stroupy reads this, I hope he thinks about it when it comes time to handle the heavy work.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 25, 2024 14:58:11 GMT -5
Never be concerned about what you canβt do. Just focus on what you can do. That's good advice but hard to accept. I'm only 62 but I have a lot that I need to get done. There are days when the pain my lower back, my right shoulder and my hands make somethings near impossible to do.Β When I was younger and took pride in the heavy work I could do, my dad would warn me that my I would pay for it later in life with a bad back. I wish I had listened. If stroupy reads this, I hope he thinks about it when it comes time to handle the heavy work. When I was younger I thought I was invincible but now being in my mid 30s and busting my rear for the last couple my body has already started to tell me I'm not invincible.
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Post by dougl on Mar 25, 2024 15:25:51 GMT -5
We're only supposed to live into our late 30's but thanks to Obamacare,guy's like Brad are living much longer.The longer you live,the more aches and pains.I was probably in the best shape of my life in my early 40's.That's no longer the case.
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Post by bushmaster on Mar 25, 2024 18:08:46 GMT -5
That's good advice but hard to accept. I'm only 62 but I have a lot that I need to get done. There are days when the pain my lower back, my right shoulder and my hands make somethings near impossible to do.Β When I was younger and took pride in the heavy work I could do, my dad would warn me that my I would pay for it later in life with a bad back. I wish I had listened. If stroupy reads this, I hope he thinks about it when it comes time to handle the heavy work. When I was younger I thought I was invincible but now being in my mid 30s and busting my rear for the last couple my body has already started to tell me I'm not invincible. Mid 30's. You ain't seen nothing yet. It really gets going around 50.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 25, 2024 18:36:26 GMT -5
When I was younger I thought I was invincible but now being in my mid 30s and busting my rear for the last couple my body has already started to tell me I'm not invincible. Mid 30's. You ain't seen nothing yet. It really gets going around 50. Well unfortunately I blew a disc out in my early 20's and had surgery to get rid of the sciatica and now I have a bulging disc in my neck that my last mri about 5 years ago was still bulging but that may have changed. If I just got into a stretching routine I think it would help a lot. I don't look forward to my 50's I often wonder if I'll be functional lol
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Post by Dutch on Mar 25, 2024 19:00:00 GMT -5
Well,no one seems to want to answer the question, do we raise the retirement age, increase taxes, or a little of both??
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Post by stroupy on Mar 25, 2024 19:58:17 GMT -5
I'm for eliminating it. Pay in and hope you live long enough. Some do some don't and they still mismanage it. They never mismanage their bank accounts though.
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