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Post by fleroo on Mar 20, 2024 10:47:15 GMT -5
MAGA is simply MAGA. But don't preface it with "Rabid", or you'll have hell to pay.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 20, 2024 17:50:49 GMT -5
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. Almost feels like we are in Soviet Russia...
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Post by davet on Mar 20, 2024 18:15:05 GMT -5
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. Almost feels like we are in Soviet Russia... Here ya go.....
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Post by stroupy on Mar 20, 2024 18:24:10 GMT -5
Careful that's your next president. You might just stroke out.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 20, 2024 18:27:06 GMT -5
Careful that's your next president. You might just stroke out. Yep.....President(aka Resident) of Rikers Island Pen!! LOL
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Post by stroupy on Mar 20, 2024 18:29:33 GMT -5
Careful that's your next president. You might just stroke out. Yep.....President(aka Resident) of Rikers Island Pen!! LOL Throw some money on that?
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Post by davet on Mar 20, 2024 18:30:27 GMT -5
Trump is Bhoo-Hooing that he can't get a bond....yet during his testimony he bragged he had plenty of cash to cover any issue. Hmmmmm......Just like his financial statements....another "overstatement"
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Post by stroupy on Mar 20, 2024 18:34:15 GMT -5
So when he offers up a bond for what the meatballs say his property is worth is it going to be accepted or are they then going to say his property is worth way more?
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Post by davet on Mar 20, 2024 18:41:50 GMT -5
So when he offers up a bond for what the meatballs say his property is worth is it going to be accepted or are they then going to say his property is worth way more? You obviously have not read anything about this matter. Bonds are issued by insurance companies and usually the person (Trump) who wants\needs the bond has adequate collateral to back up the bond should Trump lose the appeal and have to pay the judgement. So, if Trump loses the appeal, he either must pay up the $464-million or if he doesn't, the bonding company (insurance company) must pay. Then of course, the bonding company (insurance company) want's it's $464-million, so the bonding company will foreclose on the collateral it has....unless Trump coughs up the money. The bond fee that is paid to the bonding company is simply a fee for "use of money" so that Trump doesn't have to tie up $464-mil during the appeal process. As an example, many construction companies who deal with governmental entities must either post cash to cover the project cost (which they usually don't) or pay for a bond that will cover the project cost if the construction company can't complete the job.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 20, 2024 18:44:24 GMT -5
So when he offers up a bond for what the meatballs say his property is worth is it going to be accepted or are they then going to say his property is worth way more? You obviously have not read anything about this matter. Bonds are issued by insurance companies and usually the person (Trump) who wants\needs the bond has adequate collateral to back up the bond should Trump lose the appeal and have to pay the judgement. So, if Trump loses the appeal, he either must pay up the $464-million or if he doesn't, the bonding company (insurance company) must pay. Then of course, the bonding company (insurance company) want's it's $464-million, so the bonding company will foreclose on the collateral it has....unless Trump coughs up the money. The bond fee that is paid to the bonding company is simply a fee for "use of money" so that Trump doesn't have to tie up $464-mil during the appeal process. As an example, many construction companies who deal with governmental entities must either post cash to cover the project cost (which they usually don't) or pay for a bond that will cover the project cost if the construction company can't complete the job. I just listened to Mr. Dershowitz and he explained it differently and he's the one where I got my example from. He's cut and dry and straight to the point without bias. No wishful thinking with him. What does he know he's only a lawyer...
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Post by jwk on Mar 20, 2024 20:03:20 GMT -5
One thing about Dershowitz he tells it like it is without being political. Unlike the women on The View. I swear thats where some on here get there news from.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 21, 2024 5:24:23 GMT -5
One thing about Dershowitz he tells it like it is without being political. Unlike the women on The View. I swear thats where some on here get there news from. One of the few that can rule on the constitution and the truth without the bull. Doesn't really care for Trump but believes in the constitution and defends him because of that reason.
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Post by davet on Mar 21, 2024 6:46:16 GMT -5
You obviously have not read anything about this matter. Bonds are issued by insurance companies and usually the person (Trump) who wants\needs the bond has adequate collateral to back up the bond should Trump lose the appeal and have to pay the judgement. So, if Trump loses the appeal, he either must pay up the $464-million or if he doesn't, the bonding company (insurance company) must pay. Then of course, the bonding company (insurance company) want's it's $464-million, so the bonding company will foreclose on the collateral it has....unless Trump coughs up the money. The bond fee that is paid to the bonding company is simply a fee for "use of money" so that Trump doesn't have to tie up $464-mil during the appeal process. As an example, many construction companies who deal with governmental entities must either post cash to cover the project cost (which they usually don't) or pay for a bond that will cover the project cost if the construction company can't complete the job. I just listened to Mr. Dershowitz and he explained it differently and he's the one where I got my example from. He's cut and dry and straight to the point without bias. No wishful thinking with him. What does he know he's only a lawyer... I don't listen to Dershowitz. As you said, he's only a Lawyer. I have a daughter that's a lawyer. All lawyers have opinions....and that's why we have a court system because only one of them will receive a positive outcome. (Notice I didn't say one of them is right.) So, pray tell, how did Mr. Dershowitz explain the circumstances around the bond matter? I looked up what Dershowitz said about the bond. Actually, he didn't say anything about the bond but what he did say is the fine imposed was so high that it would be impossible for "anyone" to be able to appeal and overturn the verdict. Dershowitz also stated that "nobody was hurt".....which again, is his opinion and not based in facts. The bank in fact lost revenue because they loaned at a lower interest rate. If the bank had proper Trump financial statements, they likely would have charged a higher interest rate. But somehow that's Ok for the bank to make less? Tell that to the banks that have failed in the past. Wait....don't tell the banks, ask the depositors who lost millions because of that.
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Post by rusty on Mar 21, 2024 7:36:27 GMT -5
One thing about Dershowitz he tells it like it is without being political. Unlike the women on The View. I swear thats where some on here get there news from. He should do the same thing to explain all his trips to Epstein Island and why his accuser suddenly dropped her law suit against him for trafficking her for sex when she was a minor.
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Post by jwk on Mar 21, 2024 8:06:30 GMT -5
One thing about Dershowitz he tells it like it is without being political. Unlike the women on The View. I swear thats where some on here get there news from. He should do the same thing to explain all his trips to Epstein Island and why his accuser suddenly dropped her law suit against him for trafficking her for sex when she was a minor. Didn't those accusations get debunked? She said it may have been someone different. My thoughts are if anyone is proven guilty of having sex with minors or knowing about it should be in jail for life. I will also say it is very dangerous to just go around accusing people of such acts just to ruin their lives. Sadly people use sex for bogus lawsuits and sometimes it's easier for the person accused just to pay so it hopefully goes away. Athletes are susceptible to this kind of thing and it isn't right.
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Post by muttleysback on Mar 21, 2024 9:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by Loggy on Mar 21, 2024 9:32:45 GMT -5
Trump many times bragged he was “The King of Debt”!! My guess is that his real estate assets are leveraged out to the max translating to him having sh!t as liquidity. I look for a bankruptcy filing.
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Post by jwk on Mar 21, 2024 9:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by fleroo on Mar 21, 2024 10:31:37 GMT -5
I'd be SHOCKED ! if he doesn't lose by much more than he did 4 yrs ago. He simply alienates the centrists, the moderate R's, the Independents. The MAGA bravado works at rally's where every attendee is what is noted as "extreme" right (no, no, no, not "rabid" ). Apparently either his campaign managers are too stupid to realize this, or he refuses to take any advice on the matter. That's one mans prediction. We shall see.
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Post by dougl on Mar 21, 2024 10:36:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't even try to predict the outcome of this election.We're still 6mo out and we don't even know who will be on the ballot.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 21, 2024 10:47:32 GMT -5
I'd be SHOCKED ! if he doesn't lose by much more than he did 4 yrs ago. He simply alienates the centrists, the moderate R's, the Independents. The MAGA bravado works at rally's where every attendee is what is noted as "extreme" right (no, no, no, not "rabid" ). Apparently either his campaign managers are too stupid to realize this, or he refuses to take any advice on the matter. That's one mans prediction. We shall see. I disagree with you on the lost, but agree on the alienates his base. I think a lot of the trump voters will pull the handle for him though. When they look at the alternate" if he doesn't win." This is an election for what's good for our country, and world, not for the man himself.
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Post by fleroo on Mar 21, 2024 10:48:03 GMT -5
As much as the vast majority of the country wishes there were two other choices on each side, I think it's pretty much set as to who will be on the ballot. That said, I'm not very convinced one is going to actually "make it" for 4 more years.
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Post by fleroo on Mar 21, 2024 10:49:44 GMT -5
The alienation is the cause. The loss will be the effect. Again, simply my thought.
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Post by jwk on Mar 21, 2024 11:34:44 GMT -5
I'd be SHOCKED ! if he doesn't lose by much more than he did 4 yrs ago. He simply alienates the centrists, the moderate R's, the Independents. The MAGA bravado works at rally's where every attendee is what is noted as "extreme" right (no, no, no, not "rabid" ). Apparently either his campaign managers are too stupid to realize this, or he refuses to take any advice on the matter. That's one mans prediction. We shall see. What I put in bold I think is his biggest problem. He's not going to change, that's for sure.
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Post by rusty on Mar 21, 2024 11:43:33 GMT -5
Both Trump and Biden may find their biggest problem is number of their past voters that decide to sit this election out. Maga voters will not stay home, many in the center probably will.
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