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Post by Loggy on Mar 8, 2024 12:21:25 GMT -5
I bought a couple boxes of this in the 6.5CM and 30-06. Getting great reviews for long range(thinking elk) plus inside 100 yds which most of my PA deer/bear hunting is. Hope to give it a real try in the field. On paper...it cuts holes of course most premium ammo does these days. Shot Norma's Oryx in my 6.5 Swede over the years with good success. Norma Bondstrike Ammo |
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Post by davet on Mar 8, 2024 12:46:43 GMT -5
I load all my 6.5x55 ammo. But then....I load all my ammo for every other caliber!!!
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Post by moosemike on Mar 8, 2024 13:35:57 GMT -5
Sounds like good fodder. I've not yet warmed up to any 6.5 cartridges but I can appreciate your efforts via the 30-06
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Post by dougl on Mar 8, 2024 13:49:36 GMT -5
I killed a couple deer last year with the 6.5 creedmoor and 140gr accubonds which is probably similar,if not the same.One deer shot through the ribs stumbled for about 40-50 yards before staying down.The other,also shot through the ribs,crumbled at the shot.Both had vaporized lungs and quarter sized exit wounds.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 8, 2024 14:04:31 GMT -5
Sounds like good fodder. I've not yet warmed up to any 6.5 cartridges but I can appreciate your efforts via the 30-06 Dems fightin words. 😂😂 |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 8, 2024 15:13:10 GMT -5
I've actually been gravitating bigger. Didn't use the 30-30 but twice this year. Everyday was either the 30-06 or the 45-70. And I just bought a second 30-06. Two seasons ago I shot a buck and a Doe, 30-30 and 243, and didn't get to tag either of them so I went back to my roots this past season
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Post by davet on Mar 8, 2024 15:36:41 GMT -5
I've shot several deer with the 6.5x55 Swede. Just as quick a kill as with any other rifle.
When I shot long range (starting at 800yds and the last targets at 1,000yds) I shot the 6.5x55 Swede. A guy I shot with at the time loaded the same bullet weight and powder charge for his 6.5 Creedmore. We both got about the same velocities.
But because the Creedmore case is smaller, pressures are higher than the bigger case 6.5x55.
It doesn't matter what case you shoot the 6.5 bullet out of. It's the placement of the bullet of course.
But the 6.5 cartridges....6.5x55 Swede, 6.5 Creedmore, 260 Remington can all shoot the same bullets at about the same velocities. Sometimes it's having a choice of what's available....sometimes what's popular.....and sometimes you just want what you want!!
The 6.5 ballistics are superior to the 30 caliber across long distances. The only bullet that may be better is a 7mm.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 9, 2024 8:15:11 GMT -5
Sounds like good fodder. I've not yet warmed up to any 6.5 cartridges but I can appreciate your efforts via the 30-06 Yeah...I gotta do more range work with my ole 30-06 before stepping into a 300 Winnie etc. With today's wide availabilty of premium 30-06 today really expands the longer range versatilty etc of the 06. |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 9, 2024 8:45:21 GMT -5
I bought a 260 in 1997, unfortunately the twist Remington chose wasn't optimal. It shoots well enough, but my 6.5 will shoot like crazy, with limited hand loading effort.
I sold my 06 years ago because I just got tired of the recoil, just to kill a deer. I find the 6.5 cartridges to be a pretty nice compromise, lower recoil, shootability and killing power.
My nieces now have no problem with it, as they were pretty recoil shy. Maybe this fall they will use the 260, which is my favorite rifle, but I want to work up a new load for it. More play time. 😂
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Post by moosemike on Mar 9, 2024 8:48:51 GMT -5
Sure. The 30-06 can reach way out there. I made a 300 yard shot with one as a 17 year old. I knew I had to aim 9" high but I aimed 9" over the deer and I spined it! I didn't think that through but alls well that ends well
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Post by Loggy on Mar 9, 2024 8:57:22 GMT -5
I will always have a 6.5 as my "go to" deer rifle. It's really more than needed & like Dutch pointed out...a real pleasure to shoot. It's funny...even when you really have all the guns in calibers that you really need you're always thinking of adding another one!! Sometimes I think it's some kinda a mental issue we hunter's end up acquiring?  |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 9, 2024 10:01:31 GMT -5
Sure. The 30-06 can reach way out there. I made a 300 yard shot with one as a 17 year old. I knew I had to aim 9" high but I aimed 9" over the deer and I spined it! I didn't think that through but alls well that ends well My cousin's have shot across the PA Grand Canyon for years with 06s. 450-600 yds. Still does the job. |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 9, 2024 12:12:41 GMT -5
I will always have a 6.5 as my "go to" deer rifle. It's really more than needed & like Dutch pointed out...a real pleasure to shoot. It's funny...even when you really have all the guns in calibers that you really need you're always thinking of adding another one!! Sometimes I think it's some kinda a mental issue we hunter's end up acquiring? That's what I hate. I have more than I need and I'm in the gun shop every week looking at guns. Was just there this morning. It's a sickness. I'm not even being facetious. I'm really frustrated by the fact that I can't turn it off |
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Post by Loggy on Mar 9, 2024 12:24:06 GMT -5
If you find a cure Mike...let me know!! Of course...not sure if I really want to know!! |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 9, 2024 14:12:24 GMT -5
I will always have a 6.5 as my "go to" deer rifle. It's really more than needed & like Dutch pointed out...a real pleasure to shoot. It's funny...even when you really have all the guns in calibers that you really need you're always thinking of adding another one!! Sometimes I think it's some kinda a mental issue we hunter's end up acquiring? That's what I hate. I have more than I need and I'm in the gun shop every week looking at guns. Was just there this morning. It's a sickness. I'm not even being facetious. I'm really frustrated by the fact that I can't turn it off I'm trying to turn off my Amazon addiction. Too much hunting stuff on there! 😊 |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 9, 2024 17:07:41 GMT -5
Right now I have a midwayusa problem. I sure don't need any more reloading supplies, except for some IMR 4064, and that I won't buy online. But brass and bullets are being to come available, so.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 9, 2024 18:03:36 GMT -5
That's what I hate. I have more than I need and I'm in the gun shop every week looking at guns. Was just there this morning. It's a sickness. I'm not even being facetious. I'm really frustrated by the fact that I can't turn it off I'm trying to turn off my Amazon addiction. Too much hunting stuff on there! 😊 Not sure how I ever survived before Amazon!! |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 9, 2024 20:38:10 GMT -5
Right now I have a midwayusa problem. I sure don't need any more reloading supplies, except for some IMR 4064, and that I won't buy online. But brass and bullets are being to come available, so. Yeah, that's another addiction I have. Is there a 12 step program for a couple of us? 🙂 |
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Post by davet on Mar 10, 2024 4:47:22 GMT -5
I bought a very nice (It was brand new with the factory stickers on it.....but old stock. No box or papers. Must have been a display rifle?) Browning Bar Short Trac in .243 last year.
I ordered some new Privin brass from Midway. I received it, loaded 15 rounds with different charges, shot 'em at the range. The of course, I cleaned 'em and when I went to reload I sized them, primed, but when I went to seat the bullet....the bullet dropped right through the neck!! What...??
Upon measure it, the brass wall thickness was not enough to properly size to hold the bullet.
I contacted Midway and got the response of "We have reviewed our remaining supply of Privin and find it within proper specs". Well....I knew that was BS as to check any other bag they had, they would have to open the plastic bag....and then the brass would be considered "new & open bag."
I sent the brass back with my complaint. I ask for a credit as I bought some Hornady brass elsewhere.
Since Potterfield has stepped down and the company is now run by a non-owner, the response I got was surprising. So, I wrote them a letter essentially stating now that the new CEO is focusing on every financial statement line item.....including "returns and allowances" the response I got was obviously tossing up a small wall in order to obtain product satisfaction. I then told them the new CEO will not see a number called "Lost Sales" because his new policy of "make returns more difficult" will not appear on the financial statements.
I will no long buy from them. (Not that my annual buying will make a huge decrease in there bottom line)
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Post by Loggy on Mar 10, 2024 8:16:23 GMT -5
Sorry to hear. My guess their super fast order processing will also be a thing of the past. Just hearing your report....will now cause me to look elsewheres. Having a flexible return policy is just important to me or sometimes more than the price. Didn't know Potterfield stepped down.
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 10, 2024 12:06:13 GMT -5
Increasing the odds of putting a tag on the deer has little to do with the caliber of the gun used or how big it is. The answers are elsewhere.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 10, 2024 12:29:05 GMT -5
Just took a quick check on some brass from different suppliers. Looks like it's becoming slim Pickens again, and what you do find is an arm and a leg.
Glad I don't need what I checked on.
Oh, I got an email last week from midway that 308 Winchester brass was back in stock, Remington brass, just checked, gone, no backorder.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 10, 2024 12:30:02 GMT -5
Increasing the odds of putting a tag on the deer has little to do with the caliber of the gun used or how big it is. The answers are elsewhere. So you're saying that a 22 Hornet(Legal PA Deer Caliber) in the hands of an average hunter on a 200 yard deer shot exerting under 400 ft pounds of energy does not increase your odds of a kill vs say a 243, 270 or 30-06(common deer calibers)? |
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Post by davet on Mar 10, 2024 12:57:45 GMT -5
Increasing the odds of putting a tag on the deer has little to do with the caliber of the gun used or how big it is. The answers are elsewhere. You mean like Minnesota or Wyoming?  |
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 10, 2024 14:49:51 GMT -5
So you're saying that a 22 Hornet(Legal PA Deer Caliber) in the hands of an average hunter on a 200 yard deer shot exerting under 400 ft pounds of energy does not increase your odds of a kill vs say a 243, 270 or 30-06(common deer calibers)? I was talking in general terms in response to another post about wanting to go bigger because of losing deer to smaller calibers. In Pa, where the average shot in rifle is still less than 100 yards, If someone is hitting and not recovering deer, the problem is not the caliber but the shot location or shot selection. |
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