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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 8, 2023 9:22:10 GMT -5
I am kinda contemplating applying for all three seasons now. The late season irks me, especially when they added bull tags to it which was a money grab, despite the PGC saying it was to spread out pressure. Problem with the late season for me is if I draw, it would be pretty tough to me to get the time off as that week has a lot off for family time around the holidays.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 1, 2023 20:57:03 GMT -5
Decided to do bull only again this year with the fallback bull option. Only archery and general season. Not sure if I will buy the KECA chance or not.
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Post by Loggy on Jul 2, 2023 6:33:19 GMT -5
I'm in for both bull & cow Regular & Late Seasons plus fall back option selected on zone preferences. Haven't bought KECA yet but likely will get a "six pack" again. What the hay......I'm saving all that money by not buying one of those expensive air guns!!!!
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 17, 2023 11:30:47 GMT -5
Well, it is all over except the secret, closed room drawing in who knows where of the official winners.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 20, 2023 11:39:58 GMT -5
Still debating this. I bought one last year but it takes everything I have to break down and support these two money grabbing special interest tags.
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Post by Loggy on Jul 27, 2023 6:21:51 GMT -5
Wow.....time is soon here for the PA Elk Tag Drawing....Saturday 7/29. There will be 144 very happy successsful applicants. I drew an antlerless tag for first Late Season in 2020 and seems just like yesterday!! An antlerless Late Season draw doesn't impact accumulated points in Regular or Archery Season plus 5 year re-application moratorium doesn't apply. I still have maximum PGC REGULAR ELK-21 pts and PGC LATE ELK-4 pts so hopes are high as ever. If drawn it will be an experience of a lifetime you will cherish & never forget!!
Best of luck to all here who have applied!!
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 27, 2023 6:28:14 GMT -5
Passed on the KECA draw. All of my hopes are on the man behind the curtain pulling the levers in OZ.
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Post by Loggy on Jul 27, 2023 6:36:20 GMT -5
Passed on the KECA draw. All of my hopes are on the man behind the curtain pulling the levers in OZ. Same here Ridge. Last couple years went for the 6-Pack...mebbie next year. Sorta feeling lucky in the regular lottery......of course I always do!! lol
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Post by moosemike on Jul 27, 2023 9:18:55 GMT -5
I've never felt lucky in this drawing. And that's coming from someone who twice got drawn for Moose in New England. But I never feel lucky there anymore either
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Post by Loggy on Jul 28, 2023 9:34:21 GMT -5
I've never felt lucky in this drawing. And that's coming from someone who twice got drawn for Moose in New England. But I never feel lucky there anymore either Keep the faith Mike,,,,,,you never know!!
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 29, 2023 15:00:31 GMT -5
By law the drawing is supposed to be held in person at the visitors center. They had pre-printed lists available of the winners for those in attendance, lol.
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Post by Loggy on Jul 29, 2023 16:33:36 GMT -5
Must some type of variance clause in statutes underlying regulations that permits current procedure.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 29, 2023 17:59:21 GMT -5
Must some type of variance clause in statutes underlying regulations that permits current procedure. Nope. The draw as it is done now is illegal. The PGC admitted it when I talked to them. My representative was unaware that it was being done illegally as well and a conversation is continuing.
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Post by Loggy on Jul 29, 2023 18:20:02 GMT -5
Must some type of variance clause in statutes underlying regulations that permits current procedure. Nope. The draw as it is done now is illegal. The PGC admitted it when I talked to them. My representative was unaware that it was being done illegally as well and a conversation is continuing. I respect your efforts in connection with your concerns but seriously doubt that any illegal acts transacted. Please keep us updated.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 29, 2023 19:50:22 GMT -5
I respect your efforts in connection with your concerns but seriously doubt that any illegal acts transacted. Please keep us updated. Not having the draw in person at the visitors center is illegal. They had pre printed papers with all of the winners name on them to hand out. All that occurred todays was a reveal of the winners that were drawn previously. The PGC admitted to me the draw, as it happens now, does not adhere to the language in the law. Their answer was instead of the PGC complying with the law, the legislature could always amend the law to reflect the current draw process. Seems ass backwards to me. Do the draw in person, at the visitors center as required by the law.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 29, 2023 19:51:58 GMT -5
35% of archery bull tags went to non residents. Unheard of in elk states. Why there is no cap to non resident tags is beyond me.
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Post by bushmaster on Jul 30, 2023 7:07:56 GMT -5
The list is over on HPA now Could you post it up here? I'm not finding it on other site?
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 30, 2023 7:35:44 GMT -5
Archery Bull: E. HINNERZ GREEN LANE, PA Zone 5 G. LAIL RAVENA, NY Zone 12 J. FINE JR NEWELL, PA Zone 12 A. SWARTZ DILLSBURG, PA Zone 14 D. HARVEY SAINT THOMAS, PA Zone 3 D. SUTLEY TITUSVILLE, PA Zone 4 K. SCHWABENBAUER KNOX, PA Zone 14 K. GOTWALD BROOKVILLE, PA Zone 10 K. HAUN HUBBARD, OH Zone 10 D. BISHOP CHITTENANGO, NY Zone 11 D. BYLER MERCER, PA Zone 5 D. PRINGLE PITTSBURGH, PA Zone 9 P. FOOR EVERETT, PA Zone 9 G. KRAGT HOLLAND, MI Zone 12 J. SCELSA GARNET VALLEY, PA Zone 12 M. SHERUDA FACTORYVILLE, PA Zone 11 H. BEILER REXVILLE, NY Zone 13 R. SPRANKLE TYRONE, PA Zone 13
Archery Cow: A.SINES MEYERSDALE, PA Zone 3 J. ECKERT READING, PA Zone 10 B. FOORE LEBANON, PA Zone 4 M. JOHN BERWICK, PA Zone 9 R. MESSINA NORRISTOWN, PA Zone 5 W. BARE NOTTINGHAM, PA Zone 14 D. MUMAU JR MARION CENTER, PA Zone 12 J. GRIFFITH STOYSTOWN, PA Zone 13
General Bull: T. BRUNER MTPLEASANT, PA Zone 8 R. SCHNECK JR JONESTOWN, PA Zone 10 D. STANGEL ROCKINGHAM, VA Zone 14 E. HOPPERSTEAD ALLISON PARK, PA Zone 10 D. BARKLEY PETERSBURG, OH Zone 14 A. CUNNINGHAM HUNTINGDON, PA Zone 2 L. REEP CHICORA, PA Zone 12 G. CASSEL DILLSBURG, PA Zone 8 J. CONTE PECKVILLE, PA Zone 2 C. YODER BELLEVILLE, PA Zone 13 T. SMYERS BEDFORD, PA Zone 10 J. DIMAIO PHOENIXVILLE, PA Zone 2 J. HOROSKY SAINTPETERS, PA Zone 11 T. WILLIAMS NORTH EAST, PA Zone 3 A. LAPP MYERSTOWN, PA Zone 12 F. WURTENBERG CROYDON, PA Zone 3 D. YENOLEVICH NEWTRIPOLI, PA Zone 4 G. MONTARSI LOCK HAVEN, PA Zone 12 C. GEARNS GRANITE CITY, IL Zone 12 M. DANIELS GENESEE, PA Zone 4 D. RANALLI DANVILLE, PA Zone 4 D. BOWSER WINDSOR, PA Zone 11 J. KOZAR CENTRE HALL, PA Zone 13 B. MAST TUSCALOOSA, AL Zone 5 R. SIGMANS NEW TRIPOLI, PA Zone 5 P. STRAUSSER RUSSELL, PA Zone 5 W.CSASZAR BETHLEHEM, PA Zone 6 D. LENSBOWER CHAMBERSBURG, PA Zone 6 J. BAIRD TUNKHANNOCK, PA Zone 9 W.BIGGS STOW, OH Zone 9
General Cow: L. KOYT CATASAUQUA, PA Zone 2 S. ALLIAS HARRISVILLE, PA Zone 8 M. GLOSSNER MONTOURSVILLE, PA Zone 2 M. FENICLE CARLISLE, PA Zone 2 E. NOSS SHICKSHINNY, PA Zone 8 D. ZEANCHOCK N CAMBRIA, PA Zone 12 N. WOLF WOMELSDORF, PA Zone 12 L. TOBIAS DANVILLE, PA Zone 12 J. BONNER HOLLAND, PA Zone 10 S. BATES HONESDALE, PA Zone 10 W. HAZLET 4TH PETROLIA, PA Zone 3 C. GRIFFITHS GIRARD, PA Zone 14 A. BARLET AUBURN, PA Zone 3 M. MARTIN CONESTOGA, PA Zone 14 W. KRAMMES DAUPHIN, PA Zone 3 M. HARDISON UNIONTOWN, PA Zone 3 K. COLPETZER. CLAYSBURG, PA Zone 12 M. CALLAGHAN POTTSVILLE, PA Zone 4 E. BARNES ST CLAIR, PA Zone 4 R. SNYDER GROVE CITY, PA Zone 4 R. BRUGGEMAN NEW HOLLAND, PA Zone 10 D. QUICK REDLION, PA Zone 4 J. OLSZAK COWANSVILLE, PA Zone 14 J. GRANKO OLD FORGE, PA Zone 14 M. HAMORY ALLENTOWN, PA Zone 10 J. LAMEY JERSEY SHORE, PA Zone 5 C. BOGGS SAYRE, PA Zone 5 J. BOHL ETTERS, PA Zone 5 S. BALEK CORRY, PA Zone 12 P. BEACHY WINFIELD, PA Zone 5 R. MILLER NEW OXFORD, PA Zone 5 B. HOTTLE SOMERSET, PA Zone 6 R. VALLECORSA ALIQUIPPA, PA Zone 6 A. MCENTIRE KNOX, PA Zone 12 T. DONAHOE DANVILLE, PA Zone 9 E. MILLER PATTON, PA Zone 9 G. HORST CHAMBERSBURG, PA Zone 9 R. CALDWELL DUBOIS, PA Zone 11 M. LAUGHMAN DOVER, PA Zone 13 G. MAXWELL ROCHESTER, PA Zone 13 J. MCINTOSH PUNXSUTAWNEY, PA Zone 13 J. MARTIN EAST EARL, PA Zone 13
Late Bull: C. CUNNINGHAM DRESHER, PA Zone 14 S. RUPCZYK GOOSE CREEK, SC Zone 11 T. LUSE LEWISTOWN, PA Zone 2 R. BOWERSOX COBURN, PA Zone 2 M. ZIMMERMAN PUNXSUTAWNEY, PA Zone 6 J. OESTREICH MEDIA, PA Zone 12 R. LAZUR JEFFERSON HILLS, PA Zone 14 S. FERGUS WASHINGTON, PA Zone 5 R. SCHWARZ LEWISBERRY, PA Zone 10 M. HUBER VALENCIA, PA Zone 4 L. KAYE FLEMINGTON, NJ Zone 11 J. WARTLUFT MYERSTOWN, PA Zone 12 D. HUNKELE GLENSHAW, PA Zone 8 I. SCHEMM CRANBERRY TWP, PA Zone 13 T. SCOTT CLARION, PA Zone 3 R. MICKINAK DERRY, PA Zone 13 D. THIVIERGE STRAFFORD, NH Zone 9
Late Cow: J. EBERLY ROBESONIA, PA Zone 6 R. LEBO PINE GROVE, PA Zone 11 A. WINTERS NEW HOLLAND, PA Zone 14 R. EHRGOOD READING, PA Zone 13 E. TRANTER CHESTERLAND, OH Zone 14 R. DAVIS RENOVO, PA Zone 14 S. WATSON EASTEARL, PA Zone 10 C. BAKER COCHRANTON, PA Zone 4 M. SHIMKANIN MEADVILLE, PA Zone 12 S. BUTLER NEW ALBANY, PA Zone 3 S. LEHMAN MOHNTON, PA Zone 13 R. JANCOSKO DENVER, CO Zone 2 J. WILSON THOMASVILLE, PA Zone 10 C. THORUM POTTSTOWN, PA Zone 2 J. STEINER CALCIUM, NY Zone 3 J. HOLDEN GROTON, NY Zone 3 A. KOHR YORK, PA Zone 4 M. CHARLTON ROCKWOOD, PA Zone 10 E. MULLET SPARTANSBURG, PA Zone 12 S. EVANICK INDIANA, PA Zone 4 R. BISHOP LANCASTER, PA Zone 5 D. BIER CARLISLE, PA Zone 5 D. PORTERFIELD WESTMIDDLESE, PA Zone 12 S. LINDGREN CROSS FORK, PA Zone 6 T. STIEGERWALT LEHIGHTON, PA Zone 8 J. CAMPBELL FRANKLIN, PA Zone 8 M. WENGERD GREENVILLE, PA Zone 9 B. TESTER ALLISON PARK, PA Zone 12 D. PARRISH NEW CASTLE, DE Zone 9
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