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Post by CoureurDeBois on May 27, 2021 15:50:19 GMT -5
In an effort to simplify and modernize how Pennsylvania hunters apply for their antlerless deer licenses, the Senate Game and Fisheries Committee passed Senate Bill 431, which would allow for the sale of the licenses at any issuing agent in the state, as well as online. This bill would eliminate the current process, which includes mailing a pink antlerless deer application envelope to a county treasurer. The Pennsylvania Game Commission updated the Pennsylvania Automated Licensing System in early 2021 which provides hunters with more convenient and efficient ways to apply for and receive hunting licenses. Hunters who support modernizing the antlerless deer license application process in Pennsylvania should contact their state Senator and/or state Representative and ask them to support Senate Bill 431. Find Your Legislator ➡ bit.ly/3oS4CcE. Senate Bill 431 ➡ bit.ly/3vr5R57. |
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Post by Loggy on May 27, 2021 16:59:41 GMT -5
Have no problem with current process. Allotted DMAP Tags are sold via online or at agents. PIA waiting till 12:01 AM day or same deal at agents(Wally 12 am) the minute they go on sale..... especially for units where limited tags available. I can see this being greatly compounded with the number and dynamics of antlerless tag issuance.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on May 27, 2021 17:38:49 GMT -5
Have no problem with current process. Allotted DMAP Tags are sold via online or at agents. PIA waiting till 12:01 AM day or same deal at agents(Wally 12 am) the minute they go on sale..... especially for units where limited tags available. I can see this being greatly compounded with the number and dynamics of antlerless tag issuance. Agree, can't understand why a lot of people think change is better. |
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Post by Loggy on May 27, 2021 18:56:20 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. Definitely forwarding my comments.
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Post by davet on May 28, 2021 5:14:45 GMT -5
The current allotment method is antiquated and outdated. Buying doe tags online should be as easy as buying DMAP tags....with the exception of the 12:01 foolishness.
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Post by Loggy on May 28, 2021 6:13:57 GMT -5
On average 900,000 antlerless licenses are issued spanning over about 850,000 hunters per year. With all the griping about the WMU program being flawed, no deer, too many deer, too much burden filling out a 1 minute/simplistic doe application, postage cost and soooooooo on. Just give one antlerless license with every hunting license. Many hunters are going to hunt where the highest concentration of deer are anyway(on the most part). Try it one year & see how it works?? Haven't hunted out of state but I think some operate on similar systems. Our bear & turkey tags are non-WMU based.
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Post by davet on May 28, 2021 7:25:16 GMT -5
Based upon my personal experience with the postal service in the last 6-8 months, I have zero faith that the post office can timely deliver any doe tag pink envelope.
I pay all of my bills on-line. I know they arrive timely.
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Post by Loggy on May 28, 2021 16:12:41 GMT -5
Based upon my personal experience with the postal service in the last 6-8 months, I have zero faith that the post office can timely deliver any doe tag pink envelope. I pay all of my bills on-line. I know they arrive timely. Seems the mail delivery system miraculously got back on schedule after Nov 2020!! Took a few mths with the following Christmas rush to recover but have experienced minimal delays since. BTW....I pay all my bills online too. As far as experience with PGC PALS....well glad they don't handle my online bill paying.  |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on May 28, 2021 16:35:30 GMT -5
Based upon my personal experience with the postal service in the last 6-8 months, I have zero faith that the post office can timely deliver any doe tag pink envelope. I pay all of my bills on-line. I know they arrive timely. Seems the mail delivery system miraculously got back on schedule after Nov 2020!! Took a few mths with the following Christmas rush to recover but have experienced minimal delays since. BTW....I pay all my bills online too. As far as experience with PGC PALS....well glad they don't handle my online bill paying. I also pay most of my bills online through the bank. If it’s electronic transfer, no problem, if the bank needs to send a check, it usually gets there on time, but don’t bet on it. This past month my water bill check never showed up. Ended up having a stop payment placed on the bank check, no charge, and writing a personal check to the water company. It’s not 100% fool proof. |
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Post by bake545 on May 28, 2021 21:39:53 GMT -5
When I hunted in Missouri two years ago your license was In their app on your phone or you just printed it out on a regular printer. You could buy a doe tag from your tree stand if you wanted too, so much easier than this antiquated system we have now. This is a step in the right direction but doesn’t go far enough as usual.
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Post by Loggy on May 30, 2021 9:40:58 GMT -5
Anyone know if this Bill(if passed) would apply to the coming season(2021-22)?? My guess ...it's too late for implementation.
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Post by Dutch on May 30, 2021 10:12:20 GMT -5
Anyone know if this Bill(if passed) would apply to the coming season(2021-22)?? My guess ...it's too late for implementation. It'll be next year, if this passes |
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Post by Dutch on May 30, 2021 10:15:30 GMT -5
In general, everyone gets their first pic in round one, with every WMU having leftovers, so, at time of purchase, just specify the unit you want.
Second round pics can be made at time of buying license, those go into a lottery and are drawn.
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Post by cspot on May 30, 2021 10:21:24 GMT -5
In general, everyone gets their first pic in round one, with every WMU having leftovers, so, at time of purchase, just specify the unit you want. Second round pics can be made at time of buying license, those go into a lottery and are drawn. Yes. I agree. Buy first round with your license. Have a cutoff date of when you have to purchase. Then they can have multiple lottery rounds till they are gone. |
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Post by Loggy on May 30, 2021 10:46:32 GMT -5
Curious CS....how does Ohio handle issuance of doe licenses ...lottery, numbers limited per areas etc??
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Post by cspot on May 31, 2021 0:44:06 GMT -5
Curious CS....how does Ohio handle issuance of doe licenses ...lottery, numbers limited per areas etc?? They have a county bag limit and then an overall limit for the state which is 6 deer. Only 1 buck statewide. THey have been talking about going to a system like PA as far as having doe tag by a WMU. |
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Post by westfieldjoe on May 31, 2021 2:40:32 GMT -5
Curious CS....how does Ohio handle issuance of doe licenses ...lottery, numbers limited per areas etc?? They have a county bag limit and then an overall limit for the state which is 6 deer. Only 1 buck statewide. THey have been talking about going to a system like PA as far as having doe tag by a WMU. What is the procedure to secure an Ohio doe license? |
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Post by Loggy on May 31, 2021 6:32:54 GMT -5
Curious CS....how does Ohio handle issuance of doe licenses ...lottery, numbers limited per areas etc?? They have a county bag limit and then an overall limit for the state which is 6 deer. Only 1 buck statewide. THey have been talking about going to a system like PA as far as having doe tag by a WMU. So in effect there's no "SOLD OUT" scenarios or rushing to apply for doe permits as we have in PA?? In effect, any hunter has the ability to get a tag to hunt doe even if they don't get in line at first light to buy one before they're all gobbled up? If so....thinking OH may be best to keep well enuff alone?? Just did a quick read of MD's Deer Regs & seems somewhat similar to OH....anyone that wants to hunt a doe can just by buying a tag for applicable Region. Individual hunter Season Bag Limits are set by regions. No lottery or "first come first serve" kinda nonsense. |
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Post by bowbum on May 31, 2021 7:10:54 GMT -5
I don't care one way or the other "BUT" I've gone to WalMart at 2 a.m. on my way to camp and purchased, (non resident), anterless licenses in other states.
That sure makes it convenient for the hunter.
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Post by doneworking153 on May 31, 2021 14:40:30 GMT -5
Before moving to Pa I lived and hunted in MD for 28 yrs. Last I hunted there was 6 yrs. ago. There was no applying for doe tags. I bought a regular hunting license, archery stamp, and a muzzleloader stamp. With that I could kill 10 does in archery, 10 does in muzzleloader and 10 does in rifle/shotgun season. I also could kill three bucks, one in archery one in muzzleloader and one in rifle/shotgun. To kill the third buck you needed a bonus stamp, I believe it was $10. Picked it up at Walmart. Two of the bucks had to have three points on one side, one buck could be a spike as long as it was three inches. This was in Region B, I hunted a little NW of the Baltimore area.
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Post by cspot on May 31, 2021 19:36:20 GMT -5
They have a county bag limit and then an overall limit for the state which is 6 deer. Only 1 buck statewide. THey have been talking about going to a system like PA as far as having doe tag by a WMU. So in effect there's no "SOLD OUT" scenarios or rushing to apply for doe permits as we have in PA?? In effect, any hunter has the ability to get a tag to hunt doe even if they don't get in line at first light to buy one before they're all gobbled up? If so....thinking OH may be best to keep well enuff alone?? Just did a quick read of MD's Deer Regs & seems somewhat similar to OH....anyone that wants to hunt a doe can just by buying a tag for applicable Region. Individual hunter Season Bag Limits are set by regions. No lottery or "first come first serve" kinda nonsense. They have a county bag limit and then an overall limit for the state which is 6 deer. Only 1 buck statewide. THey have been talking about going to a system like PA as far as having doe tag by a WMU. What is the procedure to secure an Ohio doe license? Yes no rushing to buy any tags. You can wait until you fill one to buy another. I believe that the ODNR would like to go to a system similar to PA so that they can better control the harvest. They also have counties just like in PA where the habitat and deer numbers are vastly different from one side to another. |
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Post by Dutch on Jun 1, 2021 7:00:07 GMT -5
There is no longer any rush to get a PA Doe tag, no unit ever sells out on the first round.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 9:31:19 GMT -5
I hope this passes asap. Postage going to rise in August 2021 to .58 cents and 2 stamps needed for each application. When will the PGC drop the pinkies?? Come on Harrisburg do your jobs.  JM |
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Post by Loggy on Jun 1, 2021 9:52:00 GMT -5
I hope this passes asap. Postage going to rise in August 2021 to .58 cents and 2 stamps needed for each application. When will the PGC drop the pinkies?? Come on Harrisburg do your jobs. JM Buy your Forever Stamps NOW and save 6cts per application!!  |
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Post by Dutch on Jun 1, 2021 17:42:52 GMT -5
I hope this passes asap. Postage going to rise in August 2021 to .58 cents and 2 stamps needed for each application. When will the PGC drop the pinkies?? Come on Harrisburg do your jobs. JM Even if passed tomorrow, it can't be implemented in time |
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