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Post by willyp on Jan 29, 2017 13:07:40 GMT -5
Any one here cast bullets ?
I cast 30 calipers and a few things for the muzzle loader and in lines.
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Post by Muab Dib on Jan 29, 2017 13:23:09 GMT -5
Yep. In 357/44/45 cal. for my revolvers. If I can find the right 30 cal. mold I be doing it for some rifles too.
Muab
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:43:22 GMT -5
Use to cast my round balls for the .45 cal flintlock I had.
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Post by davet on Jan 29, 2017 19:07:02 GMT -5
No. I tried it a few times and every time I did, somewhere on my body, hot liquid lead would end up where I didn't want it. That was 40 years ago.......never touched it since. I buy 'em from people who do this stuff.....and do it well.
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Post by willyp on Jan 30, 2017 4:52:38 GMT -5
Muab,what 30 cal molds have you tried? I have a number of molds that do very well in my 30-30,308 and 30-06.
Pm me if you would care to try some of my cast bullets.
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Post by Muab Dib on Jan 30, 2017 10:49:53 GMT -5
willy, I've only tried one cast bullet in my 30-30 Marlin 336T and it was both a success and a failure. It was a 165 gr. FN non-gascheck bullet - National Bullet Company I believe. I was searching for a reduced turkey load (1500-1600 fps). Two problems occurred. First, the ogive was too large and I had to literally press the round into the lands to close the action. I tried seating forward the crimping groove as well as trimming cases "way down" in order to use the crimping groove and keep the bullet off the lands. I didn't like either of those options. That said, I did find an accurate load. However the first shot out of a cold bbl. landed about 6" high and a couple of inches to the left. After that first shot the rest would land where they were supposed to. It happened every time. Unacceptable to me as it was to be a hunting round and that first shot had to go where I aimed. Thus...I quit working with that particular cast bullet in my 30-30 Marlin.
I've since acquired a second 30-30, a pre' 64 Winchester 94. I have yet to try any cast bullets in it but want to. Those 165 gr. National Bullets press into the lands on it too, just like in my Marlin. Just the wrong bullet for the 30-30 I guess. What looks good is the 150 gr. Lyman FN and I'm thinking a gas check is in order too. Just haven't gone back to playing with CB's in my 30-30's of late, but I plan on it at some point.
Muab
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Post by davet on Jan 30, 2017 12:39:58 GMT -5
Muab,
I don't know how far your big birds are, but Hodgdon Trail Boss had a load listed for a 160gr cast bullet with a max velocity of 1,195fps. For that you don't even need a gas check, but I would believe your 165gr bullets would be safe using the same load data. I know that for fall turkey I use a FMJ .223 mid-range load and it works very well as it just punches a hole in and out and the birds dies.
FWIW
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Post by willyp on Jan 31, 2017 5:40:41 GMT -5
Muab,i have a couple of 170 grain FN molds just for 30-30s. I will send you a bunch to try out just pay the shipping of a couple of dollars? The lead is of a #2 Lyman hardness or a little harder?
2 things here:1,A Marlin has a Micro Groove Barrel and are tough to get to shoot cast bullets?
#2: I have tried to shoot cast with out gas checks and have had no luck getting them to be consistent at grouping?
I have shoot these from a Marlin and a Savage Mod.340 and they do well.
If you are wanting to try these PM me and we will get them on the way to you!
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