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Post by cspot on Dec 20, 2016 19:06:23 GMT -5
Ok.
In Ohio I am doing some clearing of brush and small trees to create a new food plot and expand one we started last year. My plan is to have this clearing done by late Feb, so that I could frost seed some clover in them. I would like to hit them with some gly in early spring before the clover comes up to kill whatever is green at the time. I know it won't kill all the briars and weeds, but it would probably help. How late do you think I could spray gly and get away without killing the clover? Obviously the later I do it the more likely I am to kill more of the junk.Anyone ever try this?
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Post by davet on Dec 20, 2016 19:24:09 GMT -5
I'd call the maker of Roundup.
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Post by cspot on Dec 20, 2016 19:33:08 GMT -5
I'd call the maker of Roundup. As long as the clover is not up, the roundup won't hurt it since it has to hit the leaves. I am just not sure when the clover would likely be poking thru. Since I only get there every couple weeks, I don't want to wait too long. If I lived there then I could just keep checking and spray when I first see the clover starting. |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 20, 2016 22:12:09 GMT -5
The clover might green earlier than the brush.
Why not, instead of rushing the clover, get it cleared, then seed rye and clover in the fall?
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Post by dougell on Dec 21, 2016 11:26:48 GMT -5
Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedThat's exactly what I did except I nuked it the spring and then planted buckwheat.The deer hammered the buckwheat and some weeds came up so I mowed it the first week of August,nuked it again,ran over it with a chain harrow and seeded it with rye and white clover.It came out great with very little weeds.
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Post by dougell on Dec 21, 2016 11:31:41 GMT -5
By the way,that fooplot was a powerline that was impenetrable last year.It was a huge patch of autumn olive that went right to the woods edge.The power company had it brush hogged so I put a landscape rake on my tractor,cleared it off,pulled some small stumps and just limed and fertilized it.it's roughly a half acre and I have about 3 hours worth of work getting it to look like that.The only thing I worked the soil with was a landscape rake and a chain harrow.I never tilled or disked it.It was just too hard to get anything big in there.
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Post by dougell on Dec 21, 2016 11:33:01 GMT -5
If you blow the first picture up,I put a stand in that big pine tree on the right.We never hunted it but my buddy Mike killed a doe from it.
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Post by Dutch on Dec 21, 2016 13:09:32 GMT -5
If you blow the first picture up,I put a stand in that big pine tree on the right.We never hunted it but my buddy Mike killed a doe from it. And you dragged it out for him. LOL |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 21, 2016 13:10:51 GMT -5
Honestly Cspot, Doug gave some good advice.
Use the Buckwheat to shade out some weeds, use the RU to kill stuff off, and do a fall seeding.
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Post by dougell on Dec 21, 2016 13:18:07 GMT -5
If you blow the first picture up,I put a stand in that big pine tree on the right.We never hunted it but my buddy Mike killed a doe from it. And you dragged it out for him. LOL That's the kinda guy I am.lol The foodplot was purely experimental and not nearly as complicated as I expected.I honestly think a 4 wheeler with a sprayer and 4ft chain harrow is all you need to put in some decent plots and it doesn't take long,especially with rye,wheat and clover. |
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Post by cspot on Dec 21, 2016 16:50:04 GMT -5
Honestly Cspot, Doug gave some good advice. Use the Buckwheat to shade out some weeds, use the RU to kill stuff off, and do a fall seeding. Dammit Dutch! Don't ever admit that he gave good advice.  I just wasn't sure how much earlier the weeds and brush would start to green before the clover germinates. I am probably going the clover route since I can frost seed. Tilling down there even with a rototiller is going to be tough with all the stumps for a few years. Most of the saplings were an inch or so in diameter so the root is substantial. My plan is to keep it mowed off as often as I can this summer and then in a year or 2 I may kill it all and reseed. |
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Post by dougell on Dec 21, 2016 17:41:24 GMT -5
Honestly Cspot, Doug gave some good advice. Use the Buckwheat to shade out some weeds, use the RU to kill stuff off, and do a fall seeding. Dammit Dutch! Don't ever admit that he gave good advice. I just wasn't sure how much earlier the weeds and brush would start to green before the clover germinates. I am probably going the clover route since I can frost seed. Tilling down there even with a rototiller is going to be tough with all the stumps for a few years. Most of the saplings were an inch or so in diameter so the root is substantial. My plan is to keep it mowed off as often as I can this summer and then in a year or 2 I may kill it all and reseed. I bought one of those chain puller thingies that you wrap around the stump and pull out with an atv.Worked pretty slick.I got sick of mowing my one field every week so I nuked about an acre in the fall,had Jr scuff it up with a chain harrow and then I spread rye and white clover.I didn't lime it or fertilize it and it came up nice.I should be a flippin farmer.I plan on doing about 7 more acres this spring the exact same way just so I only have to mow the clover a few times each summer.I'm far from an expert but I'd wait til green-up and then just kill everything before you plant.I'm telling you,the deer hammered the buck wheat to the point it hardly grew.Just mow it,kill whatever is there and spread some clover and tye.Like I said,we didn't hunt it but I had a camera on it and the deer were in it at all times of the day.I'm willing to bet it would be a killer spot next week with little other food for them right now. |
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Post by cspot on Dec 21, 2016 17:53:58 GMT -5
Dammit Dutch! Don't ever admit that he gave good advice. I just wasn't sure how much earlier the weeds and brush would start to green before the clover germinates. I am probably going the clover route since I can frost seed. Tilling down there even with a rototiller is going to be tough with all the stumps for a few years. Most of the saplings were an inch or so in diameter so the root is substantial. My plan is to keep it mowed off as often as I can this summer and then in a year or 2 I may kill it all and reseed. I bought one of those chain puller thingies that you wrap around the stump and pull out with an atv.Worked pretty slick.I got sick of mowing my one field every week so I nuked about an acre in the fall,had Jr scuff it up with a chain harrow and then I spread rye and white clover.I didn't lime it or fertilize it and it came up nice.I should be a flippin farmer.I plan on doing about 7 more acres this spring the exact same way just so I only have to mow the clover a few times each summer.I'm far from an expert but I'd wait til green-up and then just kill everything before you plant.I'm telling you,the deer hammered the buck wheat to the point it hardly grew.Just mow it,kill whatever is there and spread some clover and tye.Like I said,we didn't hunt it but I had a camera on it and the deer were in it at all times of the day.I'm willing to bet it would be a killer spot next week with little other food for them right now. I haven't even taken my JD Gator down there. Still got some more chainsaw work to clearing to even get it back to the food plots. The place was timbered in 2012 but unfortunately we didn't get it until last year. A couple of years sooner and it would have been a whole lot easier to clear. If I had a trailer big enough to haul my tractor down there it would be easier. Here is a couple pics where we were clearing last year. You can see the size of the saplings and brush in the background. My main goal is to get the places cleared out this year and get something growing that is a perennial. I will worry about getting them pretty in a year or 2.   |
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Post by cspot on Dec 21, 2016 17:54:57 GMT -5
I nuked these plots last summer after I cut everything and I still have alot of briars and saplings that came back up. I am going to have to fight a battle for a couple of years.
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Post by boatcapt on Jan 4, 2017 14:23:12 GMT -5
a good friend is a professional land person and he always said you were wasting your time and money puttin roundup or glypo down if the ground temp was less then 50 degrees..
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