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Post by bawanajim on Jul 25, 2016 6:10:22 GMT -5
Next spring get up there early and burn of any of the areas that didn't take, it makes planting so much easier and it helps put some nitrogen back into the soil.
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Post by bawanajim on Jul 25, 2016 8:07:55 GMT -5
The leasing of land is becoming more popular, some friends of mine leased 154 acres that shares a boarder with one piece of my land. It was a timbered tract with really no place to do plots, their lease is year by year and it cost them 10 dollars per acre per year, does this sound reasonable to any of you guys that have leases.
Turkeys, squirrels and deer are about all of the hunting there is to be had, I guess theres a chance for a bear, no water or ponds for fishing.
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Post by davet on Jul 25, 2016 8:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by longbeard2372 on Jul 25, 2016 8:49:43 GMT -5
The leasing of land is becoming more popular, some friends of mine leased 154 acres that shares a boarder with one piece of my land. It was a timbered tract with really no place to do plots, their lease is year by year and it cost them 10 dollars per acre per year, does this sound reasonable to any of you guys that have leases. Turkeys, squirrels and deer are about all of the hunting there is to be had, I guess theres a chance for a bear, no water or ponds for fishing. Our lease is a 365 acre farm/homestead that hasnt been farmed in 25+ yrs and other then some bi-yearly occasional mowings of the 60 acres of fields the place is left for the golden rod, crab apple trees and white pines to take over. We have full control of it and can do as we want with the property. We were told to use and treat it as our own and keep all others off and have any trespassers prosecuted to the fullest extent. We lease it for $5 a acre and there are 5 off us on the lease. We set it up so our spouses and kids are included in that agreement. So each member's cost is a dollar per acre, $365 per yr. Imho $10 a acre for timber land is to much. We have been on other timber land leases before we found this. One was 900 acres and it cost $180 per yr that was shared by 40 others. Of those 40 maybe 8 of us hunted all available seasons. The rest hunted the first two days of rifle and that was all you ever seen of them. We have been invited to a 7,000 acre timber land lease for $150 a yr and shared by 200 members. All but a select few hunt more then the first 3 days of rifle. The reason being is it is all remote and access is not easy. All requires lots of foot travel and we all know that most arent interested in that. |
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Post by Dutch on Jul 25, 2016 14:00:56 GMT -5
LONGBEARD, MOST ALL OF NORTHERN POTTER IS GETTING HEAVY RAIN RIGHT NOW!!!
YeeHAW!
I always planted my brassicas the third week of July. Always had rains right after planting. Third week was always just a tad early tho.
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Post by Dutch on Jul 25, 2016 14:05:24 GMT -5
The leasing of land is becoming more popular, some friends of mine leased 154 acres that shares a boarder with one piece of my land. It was a timbered tract with really no place to do plots, their lease is year by year and it cost them 10 dollars per acre per year, does this sound reasonable to any of you guys that have leases. Turkeys, squirrels and deer are about all of the hunting there is to be had, I guess theres a chance for a bear, no water or ponds for fishing. I gave up my lease this year. The guy that wanted it then backed out, even tho the timber company lowered the rate. They contacted me, gave me a lower rate. It went from $2750 per year for 420 acres to $1932. Guess they are waking up to the fact people are no longer leasing deer hunting rights when the deer herd has been hammered. |
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Post by bawanajim on Jul 25, 2016 14:25:36 GMT -5
Deer numbers are whats driving these leases around here, the kill them all attitude is gone, I don't think anyone thought you could kill the deer herd off like they have.
If you even mention quality deer management you will certainly get an ear full, "kill the does so you can have more bucks" yea that worked out real well.
The gamelands are hunted to death and most of the other land is posted, so leasing is becoming common place.
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Post by longbeard2372 on Jul 25, 2016 14:37:55 GMT -5
LONGBEARD, MOST ALL OF NORTHERN POTTER IS GETTING HEAVY RAIN RIGHT NOW!!! YeeHAW! I always planted my brassicas the third week of July. Always had rains right after planting. Third week was always just a tad early tho. Yes sir.. Been watching it all afternoon. Been smiling thats for sure. We figured it may be a tad early but with the drought we figured it would be a slow start. And this weekend was the only weekend I had till August 20th to do anything. I told my brother what you said about no till planting. I think we are gonna try it. He can seed before a rain and then fertilize it the same way since he lives up there. |
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Post by bushmaster on Jul 25, 2016 16:55:38 GMT -5
I'll be planting this weekend as well. Clover, Turnip, Radish, and Swiss Chard. I hope your plots do well this year!
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Post by dougell on Jul 26, 2016 10:40:05 GMT -5
The leasing of land is becoming more popular, some friends of mine leased 154 acres that shares a boarder with one piece of my land. It was a timbered tract with really no place to do plots, their lease is year by year and it cost them 10 dollars per acre per year, does this sound reasonable to any of you guys that have leases. Turkeys, squirrels and deer are about all of the hunting there is to be had, I guess theres a chance for a bear, no water or ponds for fishing. I gave up my lease this year. The guy that wanted it then backed out, even tho the timber company lowered the rate. They contacted me, gave me a lower rate. It went from $2750 per year for 420 acres to $1932. Guess they are waking up to the fact people are no longer leasing deer hunting rights when the deer herd has been hammered. That's less than $5/acre.For that price you can have deer shipped in. |
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Post by Dutch on Jul 27, 2016 16:39:26 GMT -5
I'll be heading up Thursday. 4 day weekend.
I was rooting around in my shop, realized I had a bag of rye and a bag of BuckForage oats.
If the beans don't work out due to the drought, I may just throw the rye and oats in come Labor Day.
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Post by dougell on Jul 27, 2016 17:46:40 GMT -5
Well,my experimental buck wheat plots grew nice but the deer ate them all to the ground allowing some weeds to infiltrate.I was gonna mow them down this weekend and spray them before re-seeding with some white ladino clover and winter rhye in a couple weeks.My question is will a 24d mix work or should I nuke it all with roundup and just start over?
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Post by Dutch on Jul 27, 2016 17:58:35 GMT -5
Best to use Roundup. It will kill grasses, whereas 2,4,D only kills weeds.
Btw, don't mow, spray while it has lots of leaf surface to kill. Mow it in 2 weeks
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Post by longbeard2372 on Jul 27, 2016 19:05:16 GMT -5
Hey Dutch our lower plot where we are gonna try your no till is approx. a little over 9/10 of a acre. How many lbs. of the rorhers mix would you throw on it? They say 5 lbs. per acre but you say to over seed. Does this mean double it?
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Post by Dutch on Jul 27, 2016 21:09:51 GMT -5
I'd go 10 lbs at least.
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Post by longbeard2372 on Aug 1, 2016 4:23:22 GMT -5
After just 7 days WE GOT GROWTH !!!   Good to see after all the hard work and being in a drought. Nothing but good timing as far as seeding and rain. |
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Post by Dutch on Aug 1, 2016 7:20:21 GMT -5
I'm telling you, third week of July has always been good to me.
Congrats!
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Post by longbeard2372 on Aug 1, 2016 7:46:38 GMT -5
My brother managed to get 600 lbs of lime spread on the lower plot yesterday. He is going to seed tomorrow or the next day with high chances for rain 8/5 & 8/8. We are gonna try the dirty plot you told us about. We have 300 lbs of 33.5 urea to put on it. Would you do it at time of seeding or wait to just before the nezt rain or wait till it pokes through like the upper plot is now?
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Post by Dutch on Aug 1, 2016 8:22:08 GMT -5
Give it some urea at seeding and more when it's 6-8 inches tall or so. Apply only when the leaves are dry, otherwise it might kill the plants if it sticks to the leaves.
BTW, you didn't have your daughter pick all the rocks out? LOL
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Post by dennyf on Aug 1, 2016 8:46:26 GMT -5
How much rain did yinz get Saturday? Saw some pics this morning of heavy rain over in Wellsboro.
I don't know nuffin about picking rocks in Potter County, at least in the past 50 years, anyway? One of my "favorite" chores when spending parts of summers on my aunt's farm. Can recall struggling to get a fifty pound boulder onto the old wagon we used to collect them in, when I was around 10 or 12.
Worst part of spending a day throwing rocks into a wagon - had to throw 'em all back out again around the fencerows.
Couple years ago my cousin's son talked his dad into plowing up the food plot in the corner of my hayfield. After it was turned over, then the kid wanted me to help him pick rocks. Told him I gave that up over 50 years ago, wasn't figuring on taking it up again either. He got about three pickup loads of rocks in the corner of the field now.
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Post by longbeard2372 on Aug 1, 2016 10:53:49 GMT -5
BTW, you didn't have your daughter pick all the rocks out? LOL Lol actually our better halfs did the rock picking but it is a winless battle. We got the bigger ones and said enough is enough. The more you work the ground up there the more rocks come up. Nothing like here in Lancaster county. |
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Post by bawanajim on Aug 1, 2016 11:48:26 GMT -5
Rock seeds come mixed in with clover and turnip seeds, the more you till fertilize and plant, the faster the rocks will grow, we get some outstanding ones around here.
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Post by fleroo on Aug 1, 2016 11:53:27 GMT -5
Does every turnip produce a corresponding $1 bill ? I need THAT seed.
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Post by Dutch on Aug 1, 2016 12:31:26 GMT -5
Rock seeds come mixed in with clover and turnip seeds, the more you till fertilize and plant, the faster the rocks will grow, we get some outstanding ones around here. An old boy in Potter told me once that some rocks are good as they hold heat overnight to help keep the soil warm in the spring. Silver linings? Lol |
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Post by bawanajim on Aug 1, 2016 12:42:51 GMT -5
Rock seeds come mixed in with clover and turnip seeds, the more you till fertilize and plant, the faster the rocks will grow, we get some outstanding ones around here. An old boy in Potter told me once that some rocks are good as they hold heat overnight to help keep the soil warm in the spring. Silver linings? Lol Well that stuff should grow like was planted in southern Georgia! I don't believe the small flat ones hurt any thing, but the softball sized round granite ones we have tear the h~ll outta my earth turning stuff, and year after year I pick up Gator loads of them, if the neighbor kids ever set foot out of doors they could earn enough to pay for college just by pulling rocks. The land I own was once a 1700 acre estate, the new house was built in 1867, the remnants of the old one still are visible. The dis a pointing thing is the shear number of piles of rocks we find in the woods, woods that were once farmed, by horses and wooden plows, they must of hated rocks. I'm thinking I might be fighting a loosing battle!  |
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