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Post by Dutch on Dec 4, 2012 19:48:30 GMT -5
I can buy a new Ruger All American for $325.
Just saw a magazine article about all the new "cheap" rifles. The Ruger scored highest of the lot.
Anyone have any experience or comments about them? I was thinking of a 308.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 20:12:44 GMT -5
what about a 25 06? ;D
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Post by Dutch on Dec 4, 2012 20:27:24 GMT -5
Out of my price range and I want a light to carry rifle. And NONE of those comments about some of us being "old".  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 20:48:49 GMT -5
On my list in .308 as well, after lots of research. The only thing is, I couldn't beat the price of the Savage 11 Trophy Hunter XP with the Nikon glass included. So, it's down to those two for me, with the Savage as numero uno, simply because of the $170 scope included.
Meanwhile, I'm still rockin' the 30-30.
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Post by Dutch on Dec 7, 2012 6:54:08 GMT -5
Well, I have one ordered in 308, if he can find one. I have a used 3x9 Leupold that has been waiting for a rifle. This gun could be loaded for bears or kids, plus I like it's very light weight, for older duffers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 9:43:20 GMT -5
Good stuff. If you've already got a scope, then you can't beat that price because the Ruger and the Savage have a lot of the same features... trigger, weight, barrel. You'll have to write a review of how she shoots.
I have 2 Ruger pistols, with thousands of rounds through them. Zero problems. In fact, I think they get better with age & use.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 10:19:13 GMT -5
As far as budget bolt rifles go the Ruger American is the best of the lot. And no the Weatherby Vanguard doesn't qualify as budget any longer. I might get an American for next year. I love carrying my European bolt guns with the pretty wood hunting but they break my shoulder after a week or so of day in day out hunts and they just get scratched and nicked for nothing because I seldom see a deer anyway. I'd like a lighter cheaper gun like the American in .308 unless they get their act together and offer it in 7mm-08.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 10:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 12:06:11 GMT -5
In one sentence, why might a person choose 7mm-08 over .308, or vice-versa? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 12:24:55 GMT -5
My FIL has a 7mm-08 and his buddy we hunt with has .308... I've never gotten a good reason why each likes either.
Since I came in second in my fantasy football league this year, I now have the funds for a new rifle. I was going to go with the Savage Trophy Hunter, but now I can get a scope by other means so I'm back at the Ruger American... in .308.
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Post by davetm on Jan 5, 2013 14:56:38 GMT -5
I load and shoot the Swedish Mauser 6.5x55 in a modern action Savage. The "twin" as far as ballistics is the Rem 260. The nice part of the 260 is you can simply form the brass from .308 brass if you want.
The 6.5 cartridges will give you as much down range energy as the .308, and it will do it with only half of the felt recoil. Run the ballistics on a 6.5 bullet 140gr. and compare it to a .308 150gr. bullet at the same velocity of 2700fps. You will do a double take on the results. The 6.5 bullets have a higher BC so that "allows" them to shoot a bit flatter and retain more energy than the 30 caliber bullets.
BTW, I've loaded my Savage Swede 140gr. to a tad over 2800fps with RL-22 with no pressure issues at all.
FWIW
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 15:18:24 GMT -5
Amen on the ole 6.5 Swede Dave.
Ive been shootin the the Hormady Superformance Factory ammo which is loaded to produce just under 2,800 fps. For the 140 grainer its about as hot you can find in factory offerings.
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Post by dalesholder on Jan 5, 2013 15:19:45 GMT -5
I am seriously considering a .260 but since my boy now has his own rifle I get my .243 back. I havent carried it since he started hunting 5 years ago. Might have to hold off on a new rifle for a while and use an old friend thats been good to me and him. In the 30 + years I have owned it its accounted for over 30 deer 2 turkeys uncountless groundhogs .
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Post by davetm on Jan 5, 2013 15:49:42 GMT -5
My first rifle....I think I bought it in '72 with my own money, was the Winchester Model 88 in .308. Of course, I killed my first buck with that rifle and I still have it. Way too many memories to ever let that one go.
But...if I knew about ballistics way back then what I know now, I doubt that I would have chosen a .308.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 13:25:50 GMT -5
In one sentence, why might a person choose 7mm-08 over .308, or vice-versa? Because rifle looneys don't need a legitimate reason to want another cartridge. |
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Post by dougell on Jan 10, 2013 17:33:56 GMT -5
My first rifle....I think I bought it in '72 with my own money, was the Winchester Model 88 in .308. Of course, I killed my first buck with that rifle and I still have it. Way too many memories to ever let that one go. But...if I knew about ballistics way back then what I know now, I doubt that I would have chosen a .308. FWIW Dave The .308 just works and makes good sense Dave.I personally would never be without a .308.I've owned about 5 different rifles in that caliber over the years and would never not have one.It's not a flashy round but it's always done everything I wanted it to do. |
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Post by davetm on Jan 10, 2013 19:43:55 GMT -5
My first rifle....I think I bought it in '72 with my own money, was the Winchester Model 88 in .308. Of course, I killed my first buck with that rifle and I still have it. Way too many memories to ever let that one go. But...if I knew about ballistics way back then what I know now, I doubt that I would have chosen a .308. FWIW Dave The .308 just works and makes good sense Dave.I personally would never be without a .308.I've owned about 5 different rifles in that caliber over the years and would never not have one.It's not a flashy round but it's always done everything I wanted it to do. Well one thing for sure is.....even though I reload...no matter where I'm at, if I would need ammo....darn near everyone on the face of the planet has .308 ammo for sale. Dave |
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Post by dougell on Jan 11, 2013 14:28:25 GMT -5
Modest recoil,Modest muzzle blast,easy to find components and ammo,Inherantly accurate.Plenty of power.Most importantly,you can get them in a very light weight gun.I've had rem model 7's,A-bolts and a couple Tikkas in .308.Currently I have a Kimber Montanna that weights about 6lbs loaded and with a scope.99% of the time that rifle comes with me.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2013 7:51:17 GMT -5
I have a 260 and enjoy it, but, its not a 30 caliber. If you had a 308, you can easily load it down to 260 specs and recoil, I would think.
In essence, you'd have a cartridge that a youth could use and grow into, and have a better bear cartridge than a 260.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 12:33:56 GMT -5
I have a 260 and enjoy it, but, its not a 30 caliber. If you had a 308, you can easily load it down to 260 specs and recoil, I would think. In essence, you'd have a cartridge that a youth could use and grow into, and have a better bear cartridge than a 260. You could just buy the Managed recoil .308 ammo for the youth and give him full charge stuff when he's of age. Remington really hit a home run with the MR stuff. Even adults can use it if they're tired of the recoil. |
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