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Post by neville on Dec 7, 2012 12:04:51 GMT -5
I'll try to find out Terry.
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Post by flounder on Dec 7, 2012 13:05:26 GMT -5
I'll try to find out Terry. thank you !
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Post by flounder on Dec 9, 2012 19:32:12 GMT -5
Sportsmen upset with agriculture’s lack of transparency By Tribune-Review Published: Saturday, December 8, 2012, 9:46 p.m. Updated 21 hours ago snip... The Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs — the state’s largest sportsmen’s organization — sent a letter to Agriculture Secretary George Greig on Nov. 27 that takes the department to task for a “lack of timely and informative communications.” “It leads to questions of whether the agency is doing its due diligence to investigate and manage the potential risks associated with current and future cervid farming practices and how it all relates to the potential risks to the wild cervid populations,” reads the letter, signed by Federation president Chuck Lombaerde. The letter urges the agency to be more “transparent” and “forthright.” Others apparently want the same thing. Kathy Davis of Speers, a volunteer with the Quality Deer Management Association and other groups, earlier filed requests under the state’s Right to Know Law in an attempt to learn more about the department’s investigation. Message boards have likewise been full of complaints from hunters upset with the agriculture department’s perceived failings, such as not revealing the escapes of Pink 23 and Purple 4 until confronted by the media and public. The result is the Federation’s letter, which includes 16 questions, ranging from how many staff people are working on the wasting disease investigation to whether plans to share information “in a more timely and accurate manner” have been developed. No answers have been offered. When asked, agriculture spokeswoman Samantha Elliott Krepps said, “We are reviewing the letter and responding to the PA Federation of Sportsmen’s Club. It is not fair to respond to these questions to you without giving the federation those answers first.” She did not say when answers might be coming. The federation would clearly like them soon. Bob Frye is a staff writer for Trib Total Media. He can be reached at bfrye@tribweb.com or 724-838-5148. triblive.com/sports/outdoors/3077325-74/agriculture-federation-letter#axzz2EbLixmpw www.pfsc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=disease see full text and more here... kind regards, terry Sunday, December 09, 2012 Pennsylvania Sportsmen upset with agriculture’s lack of transparency on CWD chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/12/pennsylvania-sportsmen-upset-with.html
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Post by neville on Dec 10, 2012 17:11:00 GMT -5
question please, can Mr. Neville, or anyone, confirm or deny anything about this (see below) seems the only ones getting any information on all this are the captive shooting pen owners and the dept of ag. thanks... "i was told today that Pa permits and Ny permits were starting to be done again. Looks like the borders will be open again and alot of states will still take in Pa whitetails.&q "Permits in Ny has already been released. The only reason Ny slowed down was because of tracebacks. 4 farms in Ny were held up for a bit because they dealt with the home farm in Pa." kind regards, terry No response yet from AG Terry.
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Post by dennyf on Dec 10, 2012 18:05:58 GMT -5
I'm shocked, shocked to find out no response has been forthcoming....
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Post by flounder on Dec 10, 2012 23:27:37 GMT -5
question please, can Mr. Neville, or anyone, confirm or deny anything about this (see below) seems the only ones getting any information on all this are the captive shooting pen owners and the dept of ag. thanks... "i was told today that Pa permits and Ny permits were starting to be done again. Looks like the borders will be open again and alot of states will still take in Pa whitetails.&q "Permits in Ny has already been released. The only reason Ny slowed down was because of tracebacks. 4 farms in Ny were held up for a bit because they dealt with the home farm in Pa." kind regards, terry No response yet from AG Terry. o.k. there Mr. Neville, thank you for trying, and maybe PA will give an update of some sorts this upcoming week. seems PA would have to comment on Purple 4 eventually, but the LA deer/deers (?) i would not be so sure as they would ever comment. like they said, they would comment when and if they found it and had something to comment on. seems though, under the circumstances of the LA deer/deers (?) from the PA index herd, seems LA would want the whole damn state of LA to know about it, so the hunters could help find it/them. Indiana? who knows there too, the true extent in other states? PA AG claims they cant' talk about there own deer, as long as they are in other states, and the other states just are not saying much. ...anyway, thanks again Mr. Neville. ...kind regards, terry
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Post by galthatfishes on Dec 11, 2012 7:50:31 GMT -5
I think its time we start putting pressure on the Gov's office.
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Post by dennyf on Dec 11, 2012 8:44:25 GMT -5
That would be the place to start, since the Sect. of Agriculture is part of the Gov's cabinet and essentially answers only to the Gov?
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Post by flounder on Dec 11, 2012 23:07:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 17:13:18 GMT -5
Denny, I am not shocked, this is business as usual for Ag.
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Post by flounder on Jan 6, 2013 12:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by melody on Jan 8, 2013 22:18:54 GMT -5
Chronic wasting disease not detected in half of deer sampled in CWD management areaBy Marcus Schneck | mschneck@pennlive.com on January 08, 2013 blog.pennlive.com/pa-sportsman/2013/01/chronic_wasting_disease_not_detected_in_half_of_deer_sampled_in_cwd_management_area.htmlChronic wasting disease, a deadly brain disease in deer and other cervids, has not been detected in nearly half of the 2,000 or so deer harvested last fall in the 600-square-mile CWD management area. A total of 932 letters have been sent to hunters, telling them that tests on samples taken from the deer have been tested at the Pennsylvania State Veterinary Laboratory in Harrisburg and produced CWD "not detected" results, according to Jerry Feaser, spokesman for the Pennsylvania Game Commission. Several samples from deer killed in vehicle collisions in the CWD management area in Adams and York counties also tested negative for CWD, he said, explaining he did not have a count on those test reports. No information is yet available from samples taken from about 3,000 other hunter-harvested and road-killed deer across the state. Letters are sent to the hunters who harvested deer from which samples were taken, but, said Calvin Dubrock, director of the commission's Bureau of Wildlife Management, "if we get a suspect positive we're not going to send that person a letter. We're going to deal more personally with that person." Pennsylvania became the 23rd state to have CWD confirmed in deer, elk or other cervids on Oct. 10, when lab tests confirmed CWD in a captive doe that died Oct. 4 in an enclosure on a 1.5-acre property at New Oxford, Adams County. Because of possible interactions with that CWD-positive doe, 21 deer enclosures across the state have been quarantined by the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture, prohibiting the movement of deer or deer parts off those sites. Another nine enclosures were under quarantine at one point, but have now had their quarantines lifted.
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Post by flounder on Jan 28, 2013 18:01:04 GMT -5
With most tests back, no additional chronic wasting disease, says Pennsylvania Game Commission wildlife veterinarian By Marcus Schneck | mschneck@pennlive.com on January 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM, updated January 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM snip... However, he noted, the DMA is not the only CWD front facing Pennsylvania. A spreading outbreak has been documented in Maryland, about 11 miles south of Bedford County and "it seems to be headed in our direction and the terrain in that area seems to favor that movement." The commission has a CWD biologist assigned to monitoring for the disease in Bedford and adjoining counties. And, Cottrell said, statewide the commission continues to sample road-killed deer, deer farm escapees and hunter-killed deer and elk statewide. With the heavy farm-to-farm transportation of animals in the deer farm industry, both interstate and around the state, another potential source of new CWD outbreaks persists. snip...see full text ; blog.pennlive.com/pa-sportsman/2013/01/with_most_tests_back_no_additional_chronic_wasting_disease_says_pennsylvania_game_commission_wildlif.html Monday, January 28, 2013 Chronic Wasting Disease been found in Maryland February 2011, DNR received positive laboratory confirmation chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/01/chronic-wasting-disease-been-found-in.html kind regards, terry
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Post by flounder on Feb 8, 2013 18:00:50 GMT -5
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Post by flounder on Mar 17, 2013 10:46:19 GMT -5
Sunday, March 17, 2013 Pennsylvania Chronic Wasting Disease makes it into nearby counties snip... In every state where chronic wasting disease exists, it has been first connected to farm-raised deer — those white-tailed deer that are raised in captivity for their venison or, more likely, for so-called “hunts” that occur within a fenced area. Therefore, it is not likely a coincidence that CWD has been discovered in Blair and Bedford counties. These two counties alone have over 110 deer and elk farms registered with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture. This is approximately ten percent of all the deer farms in the state. Neville brought this fact to my attention and also noted that deer farmers frequently move deer between facilities as a result of sales or trades. Although he did not directly criticize the Department of Agriculture, which has jurisdiction over captive deer, he questioned the lack of accurate record keeping. “It is just wide open. Records are poor at times, making it difficult to trace where and when a particular deer was at a deer farm,” Neville said. Rumors abound about deer escaping from one or more of these 100-plus facilities during the past year. Neville confirmed that an unspecified number of deer had, in fact, escaped from a Bedford County deer facility last year. According to Neville, several of those tagged deer were subsequently shot by commission field officers, but all were not shot or captured. This is not an isolated case. Early last summer a captive doe named “Purple 4,” because of her purple ear tag bearing a number 4, escaped from an unlicensed deer facility near Alexandria, in Huntingdon County. That deer had originated from the New Oxford, Adams County deer farm, where a captive deer died from CWD last fall. Purple 4 was first sold to Freedom Whitetails in Freedom Township, Blair County, and then sold to unlicensed deer farmer Gordon Trimer, who lives between Alexandria and Barree. Again — perhaps no coincidence — Freedom Township is one of the Blair County townships where a wild deer has now tested positive for CWD. According to Neville, some of the escaped Bedford County deer had also been connected to “Purple 4.” That is, they may have been housed at the same deer farm where Purple 4 had been penned — making the transmission of CWD possible between deer. snip...see full text ; www.centredaily.com/2013/03/17/3542376/no-time-to-waste.html see full text and much more on CWD on game farms, cwd risk there from, Texas, OHIO, and other states, link below ; Sunday, March 17, 2013 Pennsylvania Chronic Wasting Disease makes it into nearby counties chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/03/pennsylvania-chronic-wasting-disease_17.htmlTSS
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Post by flounder on May 28, 2013 20:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by flounder on Jan 2, 2014 11:21:12 GMT -5
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: January 02, 2014 Release #001-14 TESTS CONFIRM CWD CASE Ongoing surveillance detects disease in highway-killed deer from Bedford County. A white-tailed deer that was killed by a vehicle in Bedford County this fall has tested positive for chronic wasting disease (CWD). The deer, a 1 ½–year-old buck, was struck on Interstate 99 in November and sent for testing as part of Pennsylvania’s ongoing effort to monitor the prevalence and spread of CWD, which is fatal to members of the deer family, but is not known to be transmitted to humans. Test results confirming the buck was CWD positive were returned Dec. 24. “It’s not as if we hope to find CWD positives as we continue our ongoing surveillance,” Game Commission Executive Director Carl G. Roe said. “But the fact is that each test result that comes back – positive or negative – gives us a clearer picture of how prevalent the disease is, and monitoring for CWD is an important part of our efforts to manage its spread.” This positive test is unlikely to have much impact on hunters, but it serves as a reminder that CWD has been found in southcentral Pennsylvania. The Game Commission already has established perimeters around the sites where CWD was detected previously, and within the boundaries of these Disease Management Areas (DMAs), special rules apply to hunters and residents. There are two DMAs in Pennsylvania, which are intended in part to contain and slow the spread of CWD. The buck that tested positive Dec. 24 was killed within what is known as DMA 2, a 900-square-mile area that includes parts of Bedford, Blair, Cambria and Huntingdon counties. More precisely, the site where the buck was killed is between two sites where CWD was detected last year, so this new positive shouldn’t change the shape or size of the DMA. This is the first case of CWD detected in Pennsylvania this year, but not all of the samples collected this year have been tested. The Game Commission targeted collecting and testing 1,000 samples within in each DMA, as well as 3,000 samples from additional deer statewide. CWD was first detected in Pennsylvania in 2012 at a captive facility in Adams County. Subsequently, three free-ranging deer harvested by hunters during the 2012 season – two deer in Blair County and one in Bedford County – tested positive for CWD. CWD is not a new disease, and other states have decades of experience dealing with CWD in the wild. CWD is spread from deer to deer through direct and indirect contact. The disease attacks the brains of infected deer, elk and moose, and will eventually result in the death of the infected animal. There is no live test for CWD and no known cure. There also is no evidence CWD can be transmitted to humans, however, it is recommended the meat of infected animals not be consumed. For more information on CWD, the rules applying within DMAs or what hunters can do to have harvested deer tested for CWD, visit the Game Commission’s website, www.pgc.state.pa.us. Information can be found by clicking on the button titled “CWD Information” near the top of the homepage. Further results from this year’s CWD testing will be reported at a later date. Late-season deer hunting is now underway statewide and, in some parts of the state, deer hunting is open through the last Saturday in January. For properly licensed hunters, Roe said, that means there’s still time to get out and enjoy deer hunting this year. “That’s a point that shouldn’t be lost,” Roe said. “While we will continue to monitor for CWD and keep a watchful eye on test results, the simple fact CWD has been detected in Pennsylvania shouldn’t keep anybody from enjoying deer hunting, or venison from healthy deer, as they always have. “And with the better part of two hunting seasons elapsed since CWD was first detected in Pennsylvania, it seems clear the Keystone State’s hunters understand that,” he said. ### www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=12775&PageID=648010&mode=2&contentid=http://pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__001_14.htmlWednesday, January 01, 2014 Molecular Barriers to Zoonotic Transmission of Prions *** chronic wasting disease, there was no absolute barrier to conversion of the human prion protein. *** Furthermore, the form of human PrPres produced in this in vitro assay when seeded with CWD, resembles that found in the most common human prion disease, namely sCJD of the MM1 subtype. wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/1/13-0858_article.htmchronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/01/molecular-barriers-to-zoonotic.htmlWednesday, January 01, 2014 APHIS-2006-0118-0100 Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program and Interstate Movement of Farmed or Captive Deer, Elk, and Moose chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/01/aphis-2006-0118-0100-chronic-wasting.htmlSaturday, November 30, 2013 PENNSYLVANIA Hunt smart: CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD TSE PRION UPDATE Hunt smart: CWD confirmed in one region of state chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/11/pennsylvania-hunt-smart-chronic-wasting.htmlTSS Terry S. Singeltary Sr. Bacliff, Texas USA 77518 Thursday, January 02, 2014 Tests Confirm CWD Case in Pennsylvania Release #001-14 chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/01/tests-confirm-cwd-case-in-pennsylvania.html
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 20:11:58 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be wiser to test deer in every county just to see if it is there?
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Post by flounder on Jan 7, 2014 13:14:52 GMT -5
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Post by flounder on Feb 4, 2014 17:12:42 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be wiser to test deer in every county just to see if it is there? makes too much sense, and they would find cases of cwd. same thing happens with BSE in cattle and sheep scrapie. don't test in big enough numbers to find, you don't find $$$ simple as that. ...kind regards, terry
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 17:24:20 GMT -5
Seems to be the smart thing to do. Can't cost that much to just ask for volunteer samples.
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Post by melody on Feb 18, 2014 11:46:42 GMT -5
We can't get hunters to mail in a postage paid report card. Do you really think they'll take the time involved with securing a brain tissue sample and sending it off for testing???
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