45 ACP?

[good ole boy]

What does the ACP stand for in .45 ACP chambering?I am goin to want to get a 1911 sometime and not sure which brand to get.I like the Ithaca but it is real pricey as I expect the Colt is.The Remington,s seem nice and I like the Spring Field Armory Range Officer as well.I do want to stay away from imports.Any imput would be appreciated.

[Deleted]

ACP is supposed to stand for Automatic Colt Pistol.
I have one of the Remington model 1911 guns and like it a whole lot.

[davet]

I currently own two. I have a Springfield 1911 "Mil-Spec" that I purchased about 9 years ago. It was used but it looked like it just came out of the box. I put in some upgrades such as a Nowlin trigger kit, EGW barrel bushing, fiber optic sights, skeleton trigger. I use this just for gun club fun shoots. I also have a Kimber Ultra Carry. (I won it in a gun bash) It's a fine 1911 and as accurate as the day is long right out of the box.

Both are 45 caliber. (45acp)

FWIW

Dave

[buzz]

I have five 45 acp's, a lot of decent choices out there. Depends on what you want the gun for before I would make a recommendation.
I shoot competition with one of them, that being a Les Bair, but it is a expensive gun, and not needed for the back yard shoot kind of thing.
I do like the Kimbers, but as far as competition, I think they are over priced......buy a lot. Good gun, but everyone who had one to shoot competition with us, wound up putting a lot more money in them to make them shoot even close to our guns .......

Regardless, if you get a decent 1911.........it quickly will become your favorite pistol for shooting accurately........hands down my favorite handgun, the 1911.........

[dennyf]

Mine is an older Springfield Armory "loaded" 1911AI. Also bought used years ago, but barely used. Kimbers are pretty nice, but agree that they're overpriced.

Technically the Springfield is sort of an "import" since the frames and a few other parts are made in Brazil, assembled in the USA, but I like 'em and have heard few complaints about those pistols.

My opinion, everyone should own at least one 1911.

Would've had two a few years back, when a club member wanted to unload his mint Series 70 Colt and offered it to me for $500. But every time I had the money 'bout assembled, something happened to spend it on and the varmint sold it to someone else in the meantime.

[good ole boy]

Thanks for the tips.I just want one to have at home for range shooting and yes for the cool factor as well.I don,t plan on carrying one concealed.

[Muab Dib]

I've heard good things about Ruger's 1911. I have a Kahr made Auto Ordinance in the parkerized GI model and while it isn't as refined as some I like it!

Muab

[dennyf]

AutoOrd 1911s were very rough at one time, probably circa the mid to late 80s, IIRC? Knew a few guys at our club that had bought them back then and they needed quite a bit of TLC before they functioned well.

Early production S&W and Remington 1911s had some trigger issues. Basing this on complaints from those who had bought them when each first came out a few years ago.

The first Sig 1911 that Gander Mtn. got in maybe 6 or 8 years ago, had a chunk missing from the top of the walnut grip panel where the safety had actually gouged it out.

Just some personal experiences encountered with a variety of 1911s. I have yet to handle a Ruger version, but haven't heard much flack about 'em yet?

Several club members have extensive collections of 1911s, from older Colts to newer SS Kimbers. They are quick to expound on what's worth bringing home and what isn't, as they have tried most of the more recent offerings and found some lacking. Pretty much all of them think little of the Taurus 1911.

[davet]

BTW.....I would agree that the Kimbes are overpriced. (When you win 'em....they are not.) Mine being an aluminum frame...I would not use it for competition...plus it's an ultra carry. A shooting buddy of mine has a 9mm STI for competition and he holds the local clubs records for speed in the Action Pistol Shoots.

[Deleted]

I bought a CZ 97B about 5  years ago & love it. Well made, really accurate plus very reliable.  Interesting vid clip below pic comparing the 97B to the 1911.

[johns]

It doesn't look as though that gun has the grip safety feature, which I really like because I carry my 1911 cocked and locked.

[Deleted]

The 97B can be carried decocked or in classic Condition One which is my standard carry. Thumb safety can be activated in a milisecond..

[good ole boy]

I haven,t heard anything about CZ pistols but heard nothing but praises on their rifles.

[Deleted]

Sept 15, 2014 18:50:59 GMT -5 good ole boy said:

I haven,t heard anything about CZ pistols but heard nothing but praises on their rifles.

I have a CZ 550FS 6.5 Swede and a CZ 452 22LR. Both are rock solid construction and tack shooters. In fact...my great experience with them lead me to the 97B 45ACP.

[maxx2u2]

Can you shoot .45 ACP ammo in a .45 revolver??? I have a .45 Smith & Wesson military revolver from WW11 but the ammo says ACP on it, is it OK to shoot in the revolver?

[Deleted]

No. .45 revolver takes a 45 Long Colt. Compare the 2 cartridges and you will see that they are vastly different. Only similarity is the .45 diameter of the bullet.

EDIT: Possibly disregard above statement. It is my understanding that there were no 45 ACP revolvers, but after re-reading your post, I could be in error.  If your barrrel is stamped "45 ACP", then that is the ammo it would take. Otherwise, I believe it would be "45 Long Colt" that  you would need. 

[maxx2u2]

Thanks!

[maxx2u2]

What are these half moon clips used for???

[davet]

Actually Smith & Wesson makes a revolver specifically designed to shoot the 45acp. IT's their model 625 and also a special run "Thunder Ranch model 325." Try this link: Smith & Wesson web site and see if it will get you to the three models I'm talking about.

The "Half Moon" clips your asking about work in harmony with these revolvers. What you do is "load" three rounds of 45acp into one half moon clip, and three 45acp rounds in the other. Then when you have shot the 6 rounds from your revolver, the half moons are your "quick loads". So, when you open the cylinder on the revolver and "dump" the empties out, now you just have to insert two half moon clips into the cylinder....each half moon contains 3 rounds. So, it's open dump, load..load, close and now your ready to shoot. These are great in a competition shoot. They also make Full Moon clips that you load all 6 rounds in one. Now your cooking with "natural gas"!! *excited*

EDIT: When you get to the S&W site, scroll down a little and on the left, under "Narrow your results" just click the first tab and select "Competitive" and then the second tab and select "45acp" under caliber....that's it. Then hit the "Submit" button. That will at least get you the two 625 models.

[maxx2u2]

Thanks! I'll have to check it out, I belive the S&W was with my grandfather in WW11 in the Philippines

[maxx2u2]

OK so the barrel is not stampedACP, it is stamped D.A. .45 so I bought a box of the .45 long, they don't fit, so I'm guessing that the ACP ammo is the correct ammo all along, now I'm stuck with a box of Hornaday .45 Long Colt! Its the 1917 model

[Deleted]

Feb 7, 2015 13:27:40 GMT -5 maxx2u2 said:

OK so the barrel is not stampedACP, it is stamped D.A. .45 so I bought a box of the .45 long, they don't fit, so I'm guessing that the ACP ammo is the correct ammo all along, now I'm stuck with a box of Hornaday .45 Long Colt! Its the 1917 model

Sell it should get someone to buy it.

[bawanajim]

Be careful!!!!!!!

hunting.about.com/od/ammo/f/45-colt-45-acp-45-auto-rim-difference-1917-colt-revolver.htm

[davet]

Feb 7, 2015 13:27:40 GMT -5 maxx2u2 said:

OK so the barrel is not stampedACP, it is stamped D.A. .45 so I bought a box of the .45 long, they don't fit, so I'm guessing that the ACP ammo is the correct ammo all along, now I'm stuck with a box of Hornaday .45 Long Colt! Its the 1917 model

1917 Model. That's an old one. Let me drag out my "Cartridges of the World" catalogue. It's fairly accurate. You did mention that it's a 1917 Smith? Let me see. Is your revolver a "Top Break" model? You know, the revolver kind of breaks in half on a hinge and the cylinder is open at the top of the revolver?

[davet]

Feb 8, 2015 12:20:37 GMT -5 davet said:

Feb 7, 2015 13:27:40 GMT -5 maxx2u2 said:

OK so the barrel is not stampedACP, it is stamped D.A. .45 so I bought a box of the .45 long, they don't fit, so I'm guessing that the ACP ammo is the correct ammo all along, now I'm stuck with a box of Hornaday .45 Long Colt! Its the 1917 model

1917 Model. That's an old one. Let me drag out my "Cartridges of the World" catalogue. It's fairly accurate. You did mention that it's a 1917 Smith? Let me see. Is your revolver a "Top Break" model? You know, the revolver kind of breaks in half on a hinge and the cylinder is open at the top of the revolver?

Maxx2u2, With an old revolver like that you probably need to take it to a qualified gunsmith to make sure exactly what caliber you have. Plus, revolvers made in 1917 usually cannot handle the pressures of today's modern smokeless factory loads. You may need to look at some specialty load manufacturer to get either black powder loads, or very mild smokeless powder loads. If you attempt to use modern powder loads in that revolver you may blow up the revolver, injure yourself or someone else, or even worse.

OTOH, here is some info on the S&W 45 Schofield. Perhaps this is the cartridge that "fits" your revolver. But again, I would strongly recommend that you seek out a qualified gunsmith to examine your revolver for the correct cartridge...AND ask his opinion if the revolver is safe to fire.