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Post by Dutch on Mar 28, 2024 18:13:08 GMT -5
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 29, 2024 8:25:31 GMT -5
Not what we experienced along with my friends and relatives. We were down 40 to 50 percent from normal .
Hunted mostly 4D and 3 days in 2G.
I know both are large areas, so maybe the numbers are correct overall, but not in the areas we hunt.
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Post by dougl on Mar 29, 2024 9:12:41 GMT -5
I have no clue overall but no reason to doubt the estimates.We had a consistent season.
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 29, 2024 9:44:34 GMT -5
We had a pretty good year but I don't get too excited about anecdotal evidence like that. Interesting that with more antlerless tags, the doe harvest was flat. Less deer? Less efficient hunters? Less that actually went doe hunting? Rush to buy tags with the new system that were never used?
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Post by dougl on Mar 29, 2024 9:48:16 GMT -5
I've said for year that they could have unlimited tags in 2G and it won't make a difference.It's already at a saturation point and herd is still growing.
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Post by moosemike on Mar 29, 2024 9:54:58 GMT -5
I've said for year that they could have unlimited tags in 2G and it won't make a difference.It's already at a saturation point and herd is still growing. I didn't experience that on the Quehanna highway but it was significantly better than Hillsgrove |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 29, 2024 10:56:35 GMT -5
I've said for year that they could have unlimited tags in 2G and it won't make a difference.It's already at a saturation point and herd is still growing. A friend hunts in southern Potter, he said if you sit on your butt, you see nothing. When they do one or two man pushes, then they see deer. There is no one really moving deer in rifle season |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 29, 2024 10:58:07 GMT -5
My brother's friends still hunt in southern Potter, now mind you, these guys could find the last deer in Potter and kill it, but they are doing extremely well
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Post by dougl on Mar 29, 2024 11:30:34 GMT -5
I've said for year that they could have unlimited tags in 2G and it won't make a difference.It's already at a saturation point and herd is still growing. A friend hunts in southern Potter, he said if you sit on your butt, you see nothing. When they do one or two man pushes, then they see deer. There is no one really moving deer in rifle season That's exactly the case around here.We killeed some deer in archery season but had quite a few blank days and it's always like that.Come rifle season,I get them on their feet and we hammer them.I only hunted with my son two days this past rifle season.Both days we were done by 10:30am and he saw well over 20 deer.I hunted the last day of rifle season by myself and never saw a deer until I was walking out. |
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Post by Loggy on Mar 29, 2024 11:44:51 GMT -5
I really expected a slight decrease but that's only based on my hunting of a very small area of the State. Another factor is likely there's a better percentage compliance of harvest reporting. Each year seems the PGC is more widely communicating REPORT YOUR HARVEST plus tools to report are becoming more user friendly etc. Now I get mailed cards re REPORTING DMAP which in years past this was not done. Also the online reporting is really set-up nicely with much info already prepopulated.
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Post by moosemike on Mar 29, 2024 13:08:07 GMT -5
I really expected a slight decrease but that's only based on my hunting of a very small area of the State. Another factor is likely there's a better percentage compliance of harvest reporting. Each year seems the PGC is more widely communicating REPORT YOUR HARVEST plus tools to report are becoming more user friendly etc. Now I get mailed cards re REPORTING DMAP which in years past this was not done. Also the online reporting is really set-up nicely with much info already prepopulated. Going by Hillsgrove I would've thought nobody in the State got anything |
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Post by dougl on Mar 29, 2024 13:46:40 GMT -5
Never hunted Sullivan but take rt 87 and drive through Hillsgrove on my way to visit my family in Tunkhannock.From the rd at least,it looks barren and steep in that area.
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Post by moosemike on Mar 29, 2024 13:50:39 GMT -5
You're not far off. It should be Mountain Goat country but I've never seen them there 😆
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Post by Dutch on Mar 29, 2024 13:57:43 GMT -5
We had more opportunities at bucks this year than ever, just a matter of being in the right place, at the right time. Still wish I'd have had a crack at the buck I saw the first day, he was a really good one. The ONE time I got up to warm up....
When he ran off, there was a single shot the direction he went
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 29, 2024 15:03:44 GMT -5
"Overall, the agency reports 27% of deer hunters harvested a buck. That is a slight increase over 2022-23’s 26% success rate, and up significantly from the 15% success rate seen as recently as 2007-08"
If this I true and 172,000 bucks were killed, then are we to believe that we only has 636000 deer hunters? Is my math correct on this? If accurate we have lost over 500,000 rifle deer hunters.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 29, 2024 19:32:35 GMT -5
"Overall, the agency reports 27% of deer hunters harvested a buck. That is a slight increase over 2022-23’s 26% success rate, and up significantly from the 15% success rate seen as recently as 2007-08" If this I true and 172,000 bucks were killed, then are we to believe that we only has 636000 deer hunters? Is my math correct on this? If accurate we have lost over 500,000 rifle deer hunters. How do you figure we lost 500000 rifle deer hunters. Every license bought can theoretically be a rifle deer hunter. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 29, 2024 21:02:16 GMT -5
How do you figure we lost 500000 rifle deer hunters. Every license bought can theoretically be a rifle deer hunter. We used to have 1.2 million deer hunters. With the latest harvest estimates the PGC said 27% of deer hunters were successful at taking a buck. Just running some math taking the known buck harvest we arrive at about 636,000 deer hunters. 1.2 million - 636,000 = 564,000 lost hunters. And that is rifle only hunters. Archery hunting license sales have grown. |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 29, 2024 21:55:50 GMT -5
"Overall, the agency reports 27% of deer hunters harvested a buck. That is a slight increase over 2022-23’s 26% success rate, and up significantly from the 15% success rate seen as recently as 2007-08" If this I true and 172,000 bucks were killed, then are we to believe that we only has 636000 deer hunters? Is my math correct on this? If accurate we have lost over 500,000 rifle deer hunters. How do you figure we lost 500000 rifle deer hunters. Every license bought can theoretically be a rifle deer hunter. I know several bird hunters that never hunt deer. |
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Post by Loggy on Mar 30, 2024 7:09:00 GMT -5
I really expected a slight decrease but that's only based on my hunting of a very small area of the State. Another factor is likely there's a better percentage compliance of harvest reporting. Each year seems the PGC is more widely communicating REPORT YOUR HARVEST plus tools to report are becoming more user friendly etc. Now I get mailed cards re REPORTING DMAP which in years past this was not done. Also the online reporting is really set-up nicely with much info already prepopulated. Going by Hillsgrove I would've thought nobody in the State got anything Hey Mike....a Hillsgrove local told me all the deer are up in the Hoagland Branch area!!  |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 30, 2024 16:38:00 GMT -5
Now that's funny!
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Post by Loggy on Mar 30, 2024 18:22:34 GMT -5
Thought you’d be humored by that!😁 |
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Post by Loggy on Apr 1, 2024 10:31:01 GMT -5
Maybe he meant trout not deer??? You have many trout in area near your camp?? |
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Post by moosemike on Apr 1, 2024 10:44:29 GMT -5
I will at some point this week. The creek was pretty empty Saturday
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Post by Loggy on Apr 1, 2024 15:59:21 GMT -5
Mill Creek across from my camp all the way down to the Loyalsock prior to the 2016 Hillsgrove flood....held trout. Since then hasn't been too productive as most all the good habitat structure was washed out along with stream configuration changes. On up to Mill Creek's headwaters still decent fishing even holding some natives.
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