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Post by Dutch on Mar 12, 2024 12:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by dougl on Mar 12, 2024 12:16:49 GMT -5
Depending on he source,the numbers vary quite a bit.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 12, 2024 12:22:08 GMT -5
Depending on he source,the numbers vary quite a bit. These are US and UK numbers. I dont trust anything posted by Russia or Ukraine |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 12, 2024 12:54:43 GMT -5
If we don't get them weapons, they're done
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Post by Dutch on Mar 12, 2024 13:05:14 GMT -5
If we don't get them weapons, they're done Yep. A more or less Democratic Christian nation, and we wont support them. |
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Post by dougl on Mar 12, 2024 14:05:14 GMT -5
We've given them 100+ billion dollars,much of which is unaccounted for.I'm torn about the entire thing.If we were gonna help them,we should actually stopped it from day one.I'm not on board with paying to fund their Gov't and pensions.
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 12, 2024 14:08:44 GMT -5
At this point, nothing will come from a trickle of aid. Russia will keep plodding along as is does not care about their losses. The US and our allies either needs to give up on Ukraine or go all in a drive Putin out with overwhelming firepower.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 12, 2024 14:21:00 GMT -5
At this point, nothing will come from a trickle of aid. Russia will keep plodding along as is does not care about their losses. The US and our allies either needs to give up on Ukraine or go all in a drive Putin out with overwhelming firepower. That should have been from the very beginning, but I agree with you. |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 12, 2024 14:56:13 GMT -5
We've given them 100+ billion dollars,much of which is unaccounted for.I'm torn about the entire thing.If we were gonna help them,we should actually stopped it from day one.I'm not on board with paying to fund their Gov't and pensions. Nope. We didn't give them a dollar. It all went to defense contractors who sent Ukraine weapons |
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Post by dougl on Mar 13, 2024 10:18:31 GMT -5
We've given them 100+ billion dollars,much of which is unaccounted for.I'm torn about the entire thing.If we were gonna help them,we should actually stopped it from day one.I'm not on board with paying to fund their Gov't and pensions. Nope. We didn't give them a dollar. It all went to defense contractors who sent Ukraine weapons No,about 40% of it went to fund their Gov't and Gov't pensions. |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 13, 2024 12:47:11 GMT -5
Old Mitch McConnell said not a dime goes to Ukraine. He said all aid is handed over directly to US defense contractors
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Post by dougl on Mar 13, 2024 13:00:06 GMT -5
Old Mitch is a lying POS.Biden is on video admitting it.
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Post by jwk on Mar 13, 2024 13:13:50 GMT -5
Old Mitch is a lying POS.Biden is on video admitting it. The two least coherent people in government anywhere in the world. What have we done  |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 13, 2024 13:14:53 GMT -5
I don't know why anybody cares about their retirement accounts over there. The only retirement they're going to do is when Russia retires them from being six feet above ground as soon as they take over
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Post by davet on Mar 13, 2024 14:48:57 GMT -5
Nope. We didn't give them a dollar. It all went to defense contractors who sent Ukraine weapons No,about 40% of it went to fund their Gov't and Gov't pensions. Well.....thats the "line" but I don't think that's the story. "Pension" over there means something entirely different than Pension over here. |
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Post by jwk on Mar 13, 2024 14:55:45 GMT -5
Old Mitch McConnell said not a dime goes to Ukraine. He said all aid is handed over directly to US defense contractors Biden just sent 300 million to Ukraine without approval from Congress . He found money from other sources. |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 13, 2024 19:45:39 GMT -5
Old Mitch McConnell said not a dime goes to Ukraine. He said all aid is handed over directly to US defense contractors Biden just sent 300 million to Ukraine without approval from Congress . He found money from other sources. And what exactly does Ukraine do with "money"? Pay the Russians off? They get weapons not money |
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Post by jwk on Mar 13, 2024 20:11:14 GMT -5
Biden just sent 300 million to Ukraine without approval from Congress . He found money from other sources. And what exactly does Ukraine do with "money"? Pay the Russians off? They get weapons not money No, he gave them money. And they don't have to account for how it is spent. Look it up. the information is out there. Ukraine has one of the most corrupt governments in the world. They are no different than Russia when it comes to their own personal gain vs their citizens suffering. |
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Post by davet on Mar 14, 2024 5:00:09 GMT -5
And what exactly does Ukraine do with "money"? Pay the Russians off? They get weapons not money No, he gave them money. And they don't have to account for how it is spent. Look it up. the information is out there. Ukraine has one of the most corrupt governments in the world. They are no different than Russia when it comes to their own personal gain vs their citizens suffering. No. Your wrong. The $300B wasn't cash. It was the valuation of weapons. www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-preparing-new-weapons-package-ukraine-officials-2024-03-12/US to send new weapons package worth $300 million for Ukraine |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 14, 2024 5:38:36 GMT -5
Dave's shown me a link verifying what Mitch stated. The cash to Ukraine guys haven't provided anything. I'm just supposed to believe them because "it's all out there"
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Post by davet on Mar 14, 2024 5:54:21 GMT -5
Dave's shown me a link verifying what Mitch stated. The cash to Ukraine guys haven't provided anything. I'm just supposed to believe them because "it's all out there" I don't know what Mitch said. I've posted the link to Reuters in my previous post. |
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Post by moosemike on Mar 14, 2024 6:19:58 GMT -5
McConnell said that we send no money to Ukraine. The aid goes to US defense contractors who then send weapons to Ukraine
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Post by jwk on Mar 14, 2024 7:38:09 GMT -5
Well, I have been wrong before so I stand corrected. The way I read the story it seemed like cash. I stand behind my statement that they are corrupt. |
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Post by Dutch on Mar 14, 2024 8:02:14 GMT -5
Well, I have been wrong before so I stand corrected. The way I read the story it seemed like cash. I stand behind my statement that they are corrupt. And according to an EU report, they are working on that, along with other things. They can't continue to work on that, if they cease to exist |
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Post by jwk on Mar 14, 2024 8:09:14 GMT -5
Well, I have been wrong before so I stand corrected. The way I read the story it seemed like cash. I stand behind my statement that they are corrupt. And according to an EU report, they are working on that, along with other things. They can't continue to work on that, if they cease to exist Just to be clear I am not for Putin taking over Ukraine. I believe the citizens of Ukraine are for the most part good people. If this ends and Ukraine still exists then I hope they fix the corruption in their government. |
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