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Post by Dutch on Feb 14, 2024 12:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by ridgecommander on Feb 14, 2024 12:29:45 GMT -5
Hopefully. Not holding my breath and not holding my breath that the PGC would go all in if given the chance.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 14, 2024 12:52:47 GMT -5
Hopefully. Not holding my breath and not holding my breath that the PGC would go all in if given the chance. Yeah, and that one requirement of having a PFB rep on the board doesn't sit well
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Post by ridgecommander on Feb 14, 2024 13:10:05 GMT -5
Yeah, and that one requirement of having a PFB rep on the board doesn't sit well Yep. Having special interest on the board of a game agency should not even be considered a option.
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Post by Loggy on Feb 14, 2024 17:51:10 GMT -5
Good article with a somewhat positive tone!! Time will tell.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 23, 2024 7:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by jwk on Feb 23, 2024 8:05:56 GMT -5
Certainly sounds promising. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Loggy on Feb 23, 2024 10:58:33 GMT -5
I wonder if anything finally moves forward if it could still be implemented in the upcoming 2024-2025 season?
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Post by Dutch on Feb 23, 2024 11:01:37 GMT -5
I wonder if anything finally moves forward if it could still be implemented in the upcoming 2024-2025 season? Most likely not
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Post by Dutch on Feb 23, 2024 11:03:03 GMT -5
I just don't want to see the FB having a seat on the BOC. That opens up a can of worms, like it has in western states
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Feb 23, 2024 21:18:52 GMT -5
I just don't want to see the FB having a seat on the BOC. That opens up a can of worms, like it has in western states So you don’t want the farmer have a say on what the PGC does or doesn’t do?
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Post by Dutch on Feb 23, 2024 21:51:30 GMT -5
I just don't want to see the FB having a seat on the BOC. That opens up a can of worms, like it has in western states So you don’t want the farmer have a say on what the PGC does or doesn’t do? They have a say now, we don't need to give a 10th seat to a special interest group. If we start creating seats for special interest groups, we may end up with anti hunting groups or HSUS asking for special seats on the board
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Post by ridgecommander on Feb 24, 2024 6:52:22 GMT -5
So you don’t want the farmer have a say on what the PGC does or doesn’t do? The farm bureau has the same say as any other org or special interest group. I oppose any special interest group having a representative on the board.
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Post by Loggy on Feb 24, 2024 7:23:48 GMT -5
I totally agree with keeping special interest groups out. I also agree with keeping politics out. If we lived in a perfect world and a FB organization would have zero political influence on elected policymakers......Sunday hunting wouldn't even be an issue. Of course, we don't so here we are. Also, if farmers owned no land...they wouldn't even be in our discussion. If having one FB on the board helps to opens add'l hunting opportunities......I'm ok with it knowing that with hardballing will possibly lead to getting nothing or minimal movement. Was hoping for SH before they plant me one way or another.
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Post by moosemike on Feb 24, 2024 7:29:04 GMT -5
I'm not wishing for it. I love anything that forces me out of the Woods during hunting season. Otherwise I'll just keep going like a machine until I'm totally burned out. I used to think I wanted Sunday hunting until we got three in a row and I realized what a drag it is
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Post by Loggy on Feb 24, 2024 7:39:16 GMT -5
I'm not wishing for it. I love anything that forces me out of the Woods during hunting season. Otherwise I'll just keep going like a machine until I'm totally burned out. I used to think I wanted Sunday hunting until we got three in a row and I realized what a drag it is I likely would never hunt every Sunday but as you know with traveling over 100 plus miles to camp would be nice to have all Sunday's open to extend a weekend in ALL seasons. Just like Spring Gobbler....go to camp Friday and if Sunday was open...get 2 full consecutive days in the woods. Same goes for all Sundays. Just be nice to have the option available. Would I end-up hunting more days...likely not but the days I do hunt would be better scheduled as far as saving travel time & expense.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Feb 24, 2024 10:31:59 GMT -5
So you don’t want the farmer have a say on what the PGC does or doesn’t do? They have a say now, we don't need to give a 10th seat to a special interest group. If we start creating seats for special interest groups, we may end up with anti hunting groups or HSUS asking for special seats on the board OK, I can understand that, and agree, I don't want a special interest group rep either. But are you also saying that just because a farmer belongs to the FB they shouldn't be allowed to be one of the BOC? Maybe just Maybe having a full time farmer on the board would be good thing. As for the expansion of Sunday Hunting, and I know you're not going to agree with me on this Dutch, along with others, but it's my stance, and I'm sticking to it. I have no problem with Sunday hunting in small game season, and actually feel Sunday hunting should be allowed through out the whole small game season. As for all deer, and bears seasons, I also have no problem with Sunday hunting if some changes are made. In archery; Allow Sunday hunting through out the season, but shorten the deer season by one week in November. It's already to long in my opinion. In rifle bear; Go back to a Monday opener, and add Wednesday to the season. Sunday hunting isn't needed, neither for bear management nor just being able to hunt bear. Rifle deer; Return to the Monday opener after Thanksgiving, but add both Sundays to the season, having it end on the second Sunday. I am also going to touch on the expansion of State Game Lands. It is true that we no longer have the amount of hunters we had decades ago, so we shouldn't need more game land area. Wrong, we also don't have the amount of private land open for hunting that we had years ago, we are losing more each year, and will continue to do so. I can remember back 50, 60 years ago, when there were no posted signs where I still hunt today. Seems every year there are more and more, some are enforced some are not. Some I have permission to hunt on, some I do not, and some I have permission to recover wounded animals only. The expansion State Game Lands and State Forests slows and in many cases stops urban sprawl. To some that can afford a private leases or belong to one, with or with out a camp, it's no problem. For the vast majority of the hunters it is, or can be a huge problem. in some cases it may even determine whether one hunts or passes the tradition down to the next generation. Keeping what we have, and even expanding the game lands may determine if we are to become, like Europe or not. Where only the wealthy with large tracks of land can hunt. I support the expansion of State Game Lands and State Forest when ever possible. Both are open to the general public and should remain so. The non hunting public should also be made aware to use caution and to wear florescent orange during all hunting season while hiking, or walking their dog.
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Post by moosemike on Feb 24, 2024 10:59:17 GMT -5
I'm not wishing for it. I love anything that forces me out of the Woods during hunting season. Otherwise I'll just keep going like a machine until I'm totally burned out. I used to think I wanted Sunday hunting until we got three in a row and I realized what a drag it is I likely would never hunt every Sunday but as you know with traveling over 100 plus miles to camp would be nice to have all Sunday's open to extend a weekend in ALL seasons. Just like Spring Gobbler....go to camp Friday and if Sunday was open...get 2 full consecutive days in the woods. Same goes for all Sundays. Just be nice to have the option available. Would I end-up hunting more days...likely not but the days I do hunt would be better scheduled as far as saving travel time & expense. Sunday is clean up and close the Camp for another week for me
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Post by rusty on Feb 24, 2024 11:19:07 GMT -5
They have a say now, we don't need to give a 10th seat to a special interest group. If we start creating seats for special interest groups, we may end up with anti hunting groups or HSUS asking for special seats on the board OK, I can understand that, and agree, I don't want a special interest group rep either. But are you also saying that just because a farmer belongs to the FB they shouldn't be allowed to be one of the BOC? Maybe just Maybe having a full time farmer on the board would be good thing. As for the expansion of Sunday Hunting, and I know you're not going to agree with me on this Dutch, along with others, but it's my stance, and I'm sticking to it. I have no problem with Sunday hunting in small game season, and actually feel Sunday hunting should be allowed through out the whole small game season. As for all deer, and bears seasons, I also have no problem with Sunday hunting if some changes are made. In archery; Allow Sunday hunting through out the season, but shorten the deer season by one week in November. It's already to long in my opinion. In rifle bear; Go back to a Monday opener, and add Wednesday to the season. Sunday hunting isn't needed, neither for bear management nor just being able to hunt bear. Rifle deer; Return to the Monday opener after Thanksgiving, but add both Sundays to the season, having it end on the second Sunday. I am also going to touch on the expansion of State Game Lands. It is true that we no longer have the amount of hunters we had decades ago, so we shouldn't need more game land area. Wrong, we also don't have the amount of private land open for hunting that we had years ago, we are losing more each year, and will continue to do so. I can remember back 50, 60 years ago, when there were no posted signs where I still hunt today. Seems every year there are more and more, some are enforced some are not. Some I have permission to hunt on, some I do not, and some I have permission to recover wounded animals only. The expansion State Game Lands and State Forests slows and in many cases stops urban sprawl. To some that can afford a private leases or belong to one, with or with out a camp, it's no problem. For the vast majority of the hunters it is, or can be a huge problem. in some cases it may even determine whether one hunts or passes the tradition down to the next generation. Keeping what we have, and even expanding the game lands may determine if we are to become, like Europe or not. Where only the wealthy with large tracks of land can hunt. I support the expansion of State Game Lands and State Forest when ever possible. Both are open to the general public and should remain so. The non hunting public should also be made aware to use caution and to wear florescent orange during all hunting season while hiking, or walking their dog.I agree 100% with that in red above. As for SH I would support allowing in in firearms seasons for bear and deer. We archers have a long enough season without SH, IMO. When my boys were young nearly every Sunday was spent with them and my wife in the outdoors. I think doing that had more to do with their love of everything outdoors, hunting, fishing, mushrooming, kayaking, and just getting out there and exploring than sitting in a deer blind ever could. Autumn is the best time of year for spending time in the woods for everyone, even those who don't hunt. And it's a good day to scout new land and places we haven't hunted for a while. I also believe the farmers and timber owners should have a voice given the effect deer populations have on their businesses. All IMHO.
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Post by jwk on Feb 24, 2024 11:35:37 GMT -5
They have a say now, we don't need to give a 10th seat to a special interest group. If we start creating seats for special interest groups, we may end up with anti hunting groups or HSUS asking for special seats on the board I am also going to touch on the expansion of State Game Lands. It is true that we no longer have the amount of hunters we had decades ago, so we shouldn't need more game land area. Wrong, we also don't have the amount of private land open for hunting that we had years ago, we are losing more each year, and will continue to do so. I can remember back 50, 60 years ago, when there were no posted signs where I still hunt today. Seems every year there are more and more, some are enforced some are not. Some I have permission to hunt on, some I do not, and some I have permission to recover wounded animals only. The expansion State Game Lands and State Forests slows and in many cases stops urban sprawl. To some that can afford a private leases or belong to one, with or with out a camp, it's no problem. For the vast majority of the hunters it is, or can be a huge problem. in some cases it may even determine whether one hunts or passes the tradition down to the next generation. Keeping what we have, and even expanding the game lands may determine if we are to become, like Europe or not. Where only the wealthy with large tracks of land can hunt. I support the expansion of State Game Lands and State Forest when ever possible. Both are open to the general public and should remain so. The non hunting public should also be made aware to use caution and to wear florescent orange during all hunting season while hiking, or walking their dog. I 100% agree with this. I have no facts in front of me, but I wouldn't doubt if we are losing way more hunting/recreational land than we are gaining.
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Post by rusty on Feb 24, 2024 11:44:47 GMT -5
Every hunter should make their friends who hunt aware of what these two politicians are doing. I have mentioned it to a few of my friend who are avid hunters and none of them knew anything about it. I know the news was in the Erie newspaper, and maybe Warren's, but has anyone else come across it anywhere.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 24, 2024 23:31:44 GMT -5
They have a say now, we don't need to give a 10th seat to a special interest group. If we start creating seats for special interest groups, we may end up with anti hunting groups or HSUS asking for special seats on the board OK, I can understand that, and agree, I don't want a special interest group rep either. But are you also saying that just because a farmer belongs to the FB they shouldn't be allowed to be one of the BOC? Maybe just Maybe having a full time farmer on the board would be good thing. As for the expansion of Sunday Hunting, and I know you're not going to agree with me on this Dutch, along with others, but it's my stance, and I'm sticking to it. I have no problem with Sunday hunting in small game season, and actually feel Sunday hunting should be allowed through out the whole small game season. As for all deer, and bears seasons, I also have no problem with Sunday hunting if some changes are made. In archery; Allow Sunday hunting through out the season, but shorten the deer season by one week in November. It's already to long in my opinion. In rifle bear; Go back to a Monday opener, and add Wednesday to the season. Sunday hunting isn't needed, neither for bear management nor just being able to hunt bear. Rifle deer; Return to the Monday opener after Thanksgiving, but add both Sundays to the season, having it end on the second Sunday. I am also going to touch on the expansion of State Game Lands. It is true that we no longer have the amount of hunters we had decades ago, so we shouldn't need more game land area. Wrong, we also don't have the amount of private land open for hunting that we had years ago, we are losing more each year, and will continue to do so. I can remember back 50, 60 years ago, when there were no posted signs where I still hunt today. Seems every year there are more and more, some are enforced some are not. Some I have permission to hunt on, some I do not, and some I have permission to recover wounded animals only. The expansion State Game Lands and State Forests slows and in many cases stops urban sprawl. To some that can afford a private leases or belong to one, with or with out a camp, it's no problem. For the vast majority of the hunters it is, or can be a huge problem. in some cases it may even determine whether one hunts or passes the tradition down to the next generation. Keeping what we have, and even expanding the game lands may determine if we are to become, like Europe or not. Where only the wealthy with large tracks of land can hunt. I support the expansion of State Game Lands and State Forest when ever possible. Both are open to the general public and should remain so. The non hunting public should also be made aware to use caution and to wear florescent orange during all hunting season while hiking, or walking their dog. Just bring on SH and make adjustments, if needed. Sure, Everytime there is a January meeting, the FB gets to present testimony. Individual farmers even come to speak. I remember a Potter County farmer, years ago complained of way too many deer. About 10 years later, he was there complaining that things had gone too far! If a farmer happens to get on the board, great, no problem, I support that.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 2, 2024 9:05:32 GMT -5
Informative video on Sunday Hunting:
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