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Post by moosemike on Jan 12, 2024 8:23:43 GMT -5
If you've switched to copper bullets or are considering switching I'd like to hear your reasons? I just read an article about lead and lead poisoning in wild game and it has me thinking. People that eat wild game have more lead in their systems than people who don't on average. It appears anytime game is shot with a lead bullet there is a 12" area fouled by lead. That doesn't sound great to me. Also wingshooters who use lead shotshells get even more lead in their systems than big game only hunters. So if you switched to mono bullets have you also switched to non toxic shot?
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Post by Loggy on Jan 12, 2024 8:50:00 GMT -5
I currently only use one all copper....Barnes 290 grain .451 290 grain Spit-Fire T-EZ FB. It's a great bullet for my TC ProHunter inline. Never really thought about the lead poisoning factor but maybe should?? Shotgun...my turkey loads are TSS shot which are a tungsten alloy metal. Haven't read anyrhing on them?
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Post by moosemike on Jan 12, 2024 8:56:17 GMT -5
Tungsten is non toxic
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Post by fleroo on Jan 12, 2024 9:16:37 GMT -5
Studies show us that high lead levels are very bad in the human body. But what about copper ? I mean, highly elevated copper levels, and you may run the risk of turning into a Penny!
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Post by muttleysback on Jan 12, 2024 10:10:55 GMT -5
I have used Barnes X copper bullets in the past. They work well at higher velocities, and on dangerous game. They are essentially an expanding solid bullet. I have recovered a few from game animals. I don't worry about my lead levels too much. I made it to this age eating deer and game birds taken with lead ammunition, and will probably make it a few more years before something gets me.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 11:33:43 GMT -5
We have set trail cams over deer carcass three times in the last 6 years. Two of those carcasses were in the woods, not out in the open, one was on a log landing. Each time, one of the first things to show up was a bald or golden eagle. That surprised us, and helped us make the decision to go to copper.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 11:49:07 GMT -5
I started using plated lead shot in my shotgun for pheasants.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 12:50:10 GMT -5
Putting those cameras over carcasses really opened our eyes to what shows up. The first carcass was taken over by a great horned owl for about 2 days. You'd see him just sitting on the carcass. That was actually a dead fawn we found in the woods that we skinned to see what killed her.
We saw hawks, fishers, bobcats, foxes, raccoons,and even a mink, feed on carcasses. So, pretty much everything would be exposed to lead.
One thing that was always shocking, that even in the dead of winter, coyotes steared clear.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 14:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by dougl on Jan 15, 2024 11:41:45 GMT -5
I've used Barnes ttsx in several rifles with good results.I still like accubonds better so I use them when I can.I especially like 180gr accubonds in my .338 fed but had a hard time finding them until recently.During rifle season I bought a sample pack of 15,175gr hammer bullets.I worked up a quick load that shot OK and took it out.They're a hollow point copper,similar to a Barnes triple shock.I killed a doe at about 100 yards.I shot her through the ribs at about 100 yards but thought I missed.She ran kind of towards me stopped about 50 yards away and just as I was about to plow her again,she flipped over.Pretty good exit wound and that's the bullet I'd be using if I didn't just stock up with a lifetime supply of accubonds.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 15, 2024 11:46:04 GMT -5
I like aluminum and steel projectiles.
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