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Post by Dutch on Sept 5, 2023 9:51:06 GMT -5
I've been testing loads in my nephew's wife's 243. Never seen such terrible groups in my life!
It would shoot something half decent, then the next load has a flyer 6 inches away.
We shot some loads again Saturday and the same thing. Shot factory and that one was ok. Our of frustration, I decided to just sight the factory load in. Made an elevation adjustment and it threw the bullet 6 inches low and 6 inches right!!!
Decided the scope was bad. Bought a new scope, because the one on it was a 50 year old Redfield.
Went to mount the new scope this morning only to find the screws, all 8 of them, weren't even close to tight!! In addition, the screws holding the base on wasn't tight. 😕
So, new scope, tight screws, maybe we can get a decent group or two? 🙂🙂
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Post by moosemike on Sept 5, 2023 12:03:47 GMT -5
That's why you always check the screws first. Same thing just happened to me. Front base worked loose. It got red loc-tite because they're proprietary bases and they won't be getting changed.
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Post by Dutch on Sept 5, 2023 14:02:21 GMT -5
In all my years, never had it happened, so never gave it a thought.
We shall see now if this gun choots, once the heat is over
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Post by Loggy on Sept 5, 2023 14:12:06 GMT -5
I always used blue loctite when mounting bases. Never had one work loose even with heavy recoilers..….300 Win Mags, 12 ga 3.5” etc. Never use loctite on rings.
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Post by moosemike on Sept 5, 2023 15:42:44 GMT -5
I have tubes of blue loc-tite all over the place. But like I said, I can't change mounts on this rifle if I wanted to. Only Burris makes mounts for it. So since it ain't going anywhere it got the Red
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Post by Dutch on Sept 5, 2023 16:12:14 GMT -5
I didn't use Loctite today, maybe I should have. Maybe it makes sense before I waste more ammo sighting in.
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Post by moosemike on Sept 5, 2023 16:35:00 GMT -5
It's cheap insurance
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Post by Loggy on Sept 6, 2023 5:04:45 GMT -5
Some base screws out of the box have some packing oil on threads which I take lighter fluid to clean off before applying a light coating of locktite. The rings tend to have some tension when firming-up similar to a lock washer concept which prevent loosening from recoil vibration reason why normally no locktite needed.
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Post by muttleysback on Sept 6, 2023 5:19:15 GMT -5
Always thought you might have a screw or two loose, Dutch.  Interesting post. Brought up memories of a similar experience. On a hunt in British Columbia in 2001, I had a similar problem. When we went to a range to check zeros, my first shot hit nearly two feet to the right, actually hit the target next to the one I was aiming at. Whe we looked at the scope, the screws were loose. It took a bit of work to get the outfit tightened and then bore sighted. Since then I always check such things. The hunt ended up being a good one with lots of bears sighted. I took one whose skull measued less than a half inch below 20 inches. |
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Post by Loggy on Sept 6, 2023 18:00:13 GMT -5
Always thought you might have a screw or two loose, Dutch. Interesting post. Brought up memories of a similar experience. On a hunt in British Columbia in 2001, I had a similar problem. When we went to a range to check zeros, my first shot hit nearly two feet to the right, actually hit the target next to the one I was aiming at. Whe we looked at the scope, the screws were loose. It took a bit of work to get the outfit tightened and then bore sighted. Since then I always check such things. The hunt ended up being a good one with lots of bears sighted. I took one whose skull measued less than a half inch below 20 inches. Yep....amazing how such a thing as a few miniscule loose "screws" could possibly "screw-up" a hunt of a lifetime!! |
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Post by Dutch on Sept 6, 2023 18:26:21 GMT -5
I've ruled out Loctite. I want something that's not quite as difficult to remove. We have never used that before. I'm just going to make sure they are very tight
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Post by cspot on Sept 6, 2023 18:37:55 GMT -5
I've ruled out Loctite. I want something that's not quite as difficult to remove. We have never used that before. I'm just going to make sure they are very tight The blue Loctite is removeable, so no worries there. The red is not. I have had the screws come loose on me before and cause all kinds of issues. |
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Post by moosemike on Sept 6, 2023 18:39:44 GMT -5
Blue loc-tite is easy to remove the screws
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Post by Dutch on Sept 6, 2023 19:07:07 GMT -5
I thought I saw it takes 500 degrees of heat to remove it?
Ok, I'll get the Blue at work tomorrow
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Post by cspot on Sept 6, 2023 19:09:11 GMT -5
I thought I saw it takes 500 degrees of heat to remove it? Ok, I'll get the Blue at work tomorrow  |
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Post by Dutch on Sept 6, 2023 21:13:01 GMT -5
Ok. I'll get some. If I can't get these screws loose someday, I'm hunting a couple people down. 😂😂
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Post by moosemike on Sept 7, 2023 4:45:08 GMT -5
The Red takes heat to remove
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Post by Dutch on Sept 7, 2023 10:31:04 GMT -5
Well, with my employee discount, well, it was super cheap. LOL
All screws are now treated
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Post by Dutch on Sept 7, 2023 10:33:56 GMT -5
The Red takes heat to remove And you sure don't want heat by a scope |
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Post by moosemike on Sept 7, 2023 13:29:00 GMT -5
The scope is removed before you would apply heat. The rings don't get loc-tite
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Sept 7, 2023 15:11:34 GMT -5
The Red Stuff is for bolts or screws that hopefully never needs to be taken apart ever again.
It can also be used to assemble something for someone you're mad at.😁
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Post by Loggy on Sept 8, 2023 7:57:00 GMT -5
Well, with my employee discount, well, it was super cheap. LOL All screws are now treated Dutch now has no excuse for missing that buck this year!!  |
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Post by Dutch on Sept 8, 2023 8:01:32 GMT -5
The scope is removed before you would apply heat. The rings don't get loc-tite Great. That's what I put it on. 😕 |
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Post by Dutch on Sept 8, 2023 8:03:52 GMT -5
Well, with my employee discount, well, it was super cheap. LOL All screws are now treated Dutch now has no excuse for missing that buck this year!! This is a left handed 243 for my nephew's lefty wife and daughter |
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Post by Loggy on Sept 8, 2023 8:26:36 GMT -5
Dutch now has no excuse for missing that buck this year!! This is a left handed 243 for my nephew's lefty wife and daughter Oh ok....then the loose base screws excuse for your gun is still acceptable!! |
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Interesting post. Brought up memories of a similar experience.
