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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 14, 2023 14:31:02 GMT -5
The truth is coming out little by little on both sides. The "get" Trump effort, in the presence of the stonewalling over Hillary, and now Joe Biden is instead of "getting" Trump is giving him political rocket fuel.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 14, 2023 14:38:20 GMT -5
Maybe Trump is guilty of all they claim. I don't know ?? It is meaningless to his staunch supporters when the FBI and the DOJ has ignored, and in some cases covered for the Biden family. Even the IRS is wound up in the protection of the Bidens. Get Trump...Get Trump ..Get Trump.
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 14:40:05 GMT -5
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 14:41:48 GMT -5
Many voters were hornswaggled by the coverup of the Biden lap top. That cover up got Biden elected. We've been hearing about this laptop for how long? They should put up the facts now or shut up about it until they do.... But anywaaaaay,...... what about all the stuff we do know about trump's acts? Do the trumpkins think all he has done and all the evidence should be ignored because of something somebody else has done or may have done?
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 14, 2023 14:51:01 GMT -5
Its not purely a put up or shut with the lap top. It has led to the emails and bank records. It caused people to look deeper into it. This what the FBI should have been doing. The more that is discovered, the FBi looks biased again for not investigating. Or, at least stonewalling any investigation. Again, in the presence of all these new revelations Trump is being provided political rocket fuel.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 14:58:13 GMT -5
I don't need them to tell me anything. It's plain as the nose on your face that if we give Ukraine the goods, they are able to handle their own business Sure, you keep sending them your money then. I know I'd be happy if they sent me that kind of money. I'd rather not send money to Ukraine but the swamp gets rich off of them so I wonder why. Look up Grahams video if that doesn't put a bad taste in your mouth nothing will. Straight from the horses mouth to boot.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:02:06 GMT -5
Stoup, are you old enough to remember Ronald Reagan as POTUS? I'm sure there were times he was less than honest with the people of this country, buthe was at least capable and had enough character to sometime admit his mistakes. For example; "A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not" - Ronald Reagan in 1987 on the Iran-Contra scandalCan you even imagine trump having the character to admit a mistake, or apologize for any of his lies? The guy certainly understands the psyche of his followers. Many of them are as close to being brainwashed as a person can be. There can be few other explanations for ignoring ALL evidence and believe so many trump's proven lies and false claims about his accomplishments. Thankfully enough Americans saw the guy for what he is and made the effort to vote him out of office.....Our system worked-this time. Accepting trump for what he is, and supporting the idea of holding him accountable, does not mean one is a huge fan of Joe Biden. Simply being better than donald trump is a very low bar to clear. Nope, was only a couple months old during his last term. What lies? I want proof straight from his mouth. He said he was spied on you guys said he was nuts, the Durham report determined that was the truth. What lies are you talking about I Don't want media run narratives. I need to be shown proof and no taking his words out of context to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 15:06:35 GMT -5
I don't need them to tell me anything. It's plain as the nose on your face that if we give Ukraine the goods, they are able to handle their own business Sure, you keep sending them your money then. I know I'd be happy if they sent me that kind of money. I'd rather not send money to Ukraine but the swamp gets rich off of them so I wonder why. Look up Grahams video if that doesn't put a bad taste in your mouth nothing will. Straight from the horses mouth to boot. They're fighting a war. I'm sure they're not overly fukking happy
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:09:00 GMT -5
Sure, you keep sending them your money then. I know I'd be happy if they sent me that kind of money. I'd rather not send money to Ukraine but the swamp gets rich off of them so I wonder why. Look up Grahams video if that doesn't put a bad taste in your mouth nothing will. Straight from the horses mouth to boot. They're fighting a war. I'm sure they're not overly fukking happy Let's just hope they are using the money for "war". Let the other countries step up for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 15:23:06 GMT -5
Well if they aren't I'd sure as fukk like to know where they're getting the weaponry to hold the Russian Federation to a standstill? And Britain, Germany, and Poland have given them a lot
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:23:46 GMT -5
Let's have a little review of the last 3 years, they purposely crashed a rolling economy, kept people from worshipping, kept kids from getting an education,took away people's rights to work (even sent government officials to close down businesses) wanted to force vaccines that went from preventing you from getting it, and not transmitting it, to it makes it lesser(everyone's argument when it doesn't work) to record high inflation, another war we are funding. Yeah I'll take Trump and his supposed lies anyway of the week. Maybe a couple more weirdos will come out of the shadows so that men can dress in the same changing room as you daughters and granddaughters. Yeah let's get Trump he's our biggest concern. Braindead. I must be radical.
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 15:24:50 GMT -5
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:25:17 GMT -5
Well start sending donations Mike since it's a important issue for you.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:27:44 GMT -5
Yeah I know how Facebook fact checkers are it's a fact yet it's always false information. Just like how they called Ivermectin a horse dewormer but has a lot of evidence that it works for viruses too. Not fiction fact.
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 15:40:58 GMT -5
Stroupy, it certainly seems as though you are one who believes on what he wants to be true and looks for any sliver of hope to make what he wishes were not true is not.
If Biden is guilty of something I want to know. If the charges against trump are proven, will you accept it or simply blame those who proven his guilt? It is dangerous to put so much faith in any man. And it is a danger to this country when our leaders disregard the truth and take whatever position they think may get them the most votes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 15:43:57 GMT -5
And who was President three years ago when jobs and worship services were being shut down?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 15:44:56 GMT -5
Well start sending donations Mike since it's a important issue for you. No need. You already do 😉
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:55:57 GMT -5
Stroupy, it certainly seems as though you are one who believes on what he wants to be true and looks for any sliver of hope to make what he wishes were not true is not. If Biden is guilty of something I want to know. If the charges against trump are proven, will you accept it or simply blame those who proven his guilt? It is dangerous to put so much faith in any man. And it is a danger to this country when our leaders disregard the truth and take whatever position they think may get them the most votes. The whole issue is the double standard. You won't acknowledge that. Hell if they targeted anyone of us I am sure they could come up with something and send us to jail. You better hope you are never the one with the crosshairs on your back. If it's good for th goose it's good for the gander. IMO anyone rejoicing or sticking up for such nonsense should one day receive the same treatment.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 15:58:39 GMT -5
And who was President three years ago when jobs and worship services were being shut down? The Governors were the one's making the decision and our Democratic one liked to do all I said. Trump wanted to keep everything open but all of you who were afraid of dying said he didn't care about Grandma. Another noble cause that you guys corrupted. Even made people talk to their Grandma's through a window like they were the monkey down at the local zoo. lol to think all of this happened and we all let it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 16:20:13 GMT -5
And who was President three years ago when jobs and worship services were being shut down? The Governors were the one's making the decision and our Democratic one liked to do all I said. Trump wanted to keep everything open but all of you who were afraid of dying said he didn't care about Grandma. Another noble cause that you guys corrupted. Even made people talk to their Grandma's through a window like they were the monkey down at the local zoo. lol to think all of this happened and we all let it. Must've been stuff you were doing. I didn't do any of that. I was busy going to work everyday
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 16:32:39 GMT -5
Yep, more than one million Americans died from what called a hoax and said the initial 11 cases in this country would be reduced to zero in a short period of time. .....more than one million deaths in spite of the efforts to mitigate the damage. Are we supposed to believe suppose those efforts saved no lives?
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 16:45:46 GMT -5
Yep, more than one million Americans died from what called a hoax and said the initial 11 cases in this country would be reduced to zero in a short period of time. .....more than one million deaths in spite of the efforts to mitigate the damage. Are we supposed to believe suppose those efforts saved no lives? Right on Que, this is the part where you come out with the saving lives part. So how many lives did you save? The shutdowns were proven not to work, the masks proven useless. Next is the part where we say "well we meant well" Doesn't matter how many businesses were harmed and shut down in the process. So many covid deaths that they even subsidized them. The more covid deaths the more money they got. At last lets get back to the saving childrens part. I am trying to save all my political discussion for on the weekends when it's slower and stop during the week. I already failed miserably.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 16:47:25 GMT -5
The Governors were the one's making the decision and our Democratic one liked to do all I said. Trump wanted to keep everything open but all of you who were afraid of dying said he didn't care about Grandma. Another noble cause that you guys corrupted. Even made people talk to their Grandma's through a window like they were the monkey down at the local zoo. lol to think all of this happened and we all let it. Must've been stuff you were doing. I didn't do any of that. I was busy going to work everyday Perfect example of floating around something. Last comment on this discussion for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 17:39:53 GMT -5
All the stuff you are complaining about, I didn't do any of it. So I assume you're complaining about your reality
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 18:52:22 GMT -5
Yep, more than one million Americans died from what called a hoax and said the initial 11 cases in this country would be reduced to zero in a short period of time. .....more than one million deaths in spite of the efforts to mitigate the damage. Are we supposed to believe suppose those efforts saved no lives? Right on Que, this is the part where you come out with the saving lives part. So how many lives did you save? The shutdowns were proven not to work, the masks proven useless. Next is the part where we say "well we meant well" Doesn't matter how many businesses were harmed and shut down in the process. So many covid deaths that they even subsidized them. The more covid deaths the more money they got. At last lets get back to the saving childrens part. I am trying to save all my political discussion for on the weekends when it's slower and stop during the week. I already failed miserably. Tell us just how you know that the measures taken saved no lives. Even for you that sounds like a ridiculous statement, stroupy.... "Proven not to work"? Just what is your proof? Even if it were true, explain how it could be proven. Slowing the spread until vaccines and natural immunity could bring relief, without any reasonable doubt, saved lives.
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