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Post by fleroo on Jan 4, 2021 9:51:50 GMT -5
I have a Lyman Deerstalker. Flint is striking the frizzen just above 1/3 up from the bottom. That's too low, though it will spark and set off pan powder. What is the adjustment to raise the strike higher on the frizzen ?
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Post by Loggy on Jan 4, 2021 10:09:46 GMT -5
Should be striking 1/2 to 1/3 from top. Put flint in jaws bevel side down. If that doesn't help.....you need some lock tuning work.
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Post by davet on Jan 4, 2021 10:28:06 GMT -5
Like Loggy said.....bevel side down as in this pic below. Also, I always use "english" style flints. (See second pic) Those pre-cut "saw cut" shape flints are junk..(IMHO)   |
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Post by fleroo on Jan 4, 2021 10:53:40 GMT -5
Thanks fellas, but I kinda knew that flipping the fling will buy you just a tad more height. LOL. BUT, flipping the flint won't even get it striking at the 1/2 way point.
Yes, I need an "adjustment", or tuning as you call it ? Q is, what needs to be done ? Or, is it something that has to be done professionally ?
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Post by Sr.Chief on Jan 4, 2021 16:34:36 GMT -5
A temporary fix is add a piece of leather under the bottom to bring it up.
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Post by davet on Jan 4, 2021 17:06:49 GMT -5
Fle-loo, it sounds as if your Lyman suffers from the same problem the T\C Hawken flinter's had. The pic below shows the "old style vs new style" of TC locks. The old style lock hammers were shorter than the new ones. Old ones can't hit the frizzen as high as the new style. If your current flint fires the gun then just keep using it. A replacement lock is likely more costly than what your rifle is worth.  |
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Post by Loggy on Jan 5, 2021 7:32:21 GMT -5
CK with below for what would fit & pricing. Some are in mid-hundred $ range. To have gunmaker rework/tune you may end up paying as much or more. TOW LocksReplacement Locks |
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Post by fleroo on Jan 5, 2021 9:20:06 GMT -5
I was afraid of the answers. LOL But thanks to all 3 of ya.
Sr.Chief. Good to see ya around. I have leather "wrapped" around the entire flint as of now. Not sure if I can open the jaws, and get another bolster piece underneath without the flint slipping around in the jaw. I seem to have a heck of a time getting my flints buttoned down tight in the jaws for some reason.
Great pic, and depiction, Dave.
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Post by davet on Jan 5, 2021 9:33:20 GMT -5
Do as Sr. Chief has suggested, but (depending upon the thickness of your leather)....if you are using a thick piece of leather, like say 1/8" or more, then cut the top piece of leather in half and double up the bottom.
You should have enough of the screw to accomplish this.....and tighten down so it won't move with a good shove of your fingers!!
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 5, 2021 11:08:58 GMT -5
Go to Track of the Wolf and buy longer flints.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 5, 2021 11:20:35 GMT -5
Well, you can only buy flints that will allow for the small gap between flint and frizzen. If your flint is too long, it will ride on, and slightly open, creating a gap in the pan cover. I know damn well I can't put a 3/4" flint in there. So limited to flint size.
AND, I'm not napping my own flints. lol
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Post by acorn20 on Jan 5, 2021 12:24:22 GMT -5
I would also try the extra piece of leather first. If you need additional room, punch or cut a 1/4" hole in the center of the leather piece that folds over the flint. When the leather is folded, this hole will rest next to the screw and should give you a little bit of room to play with. It can get crowded in those jaws.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 5, 2021 14:48:48 GMT -5
I keep some old baseball gloves around, to cut for my flint jaws. I've also used cuttings from suede purses. The ball glove leather can be a bit thick at times.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 5, 2021 14:49:46 GMT -5
And NO... the purses were NOT mine.  |
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Post by davet on Jan 5, 2021 14:56:21 GMT -5
And NO... the purses were NOT mine. You answered my question even before I posted it!!  |
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Post by fleroo on Jan 5, 2021 14:59:52 GMT -5
My purses are top end, Dave. I'd NEVER cut 'em up.
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Post by timberdoodle on Jan 5, 2021 16:27:19 GMT -5
That possible bag looks suspiciously like a purse to me
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Post by fleroo on Jan 5, 2021 16:36:11 GMT -5
That possible bag looks suspiciously like a purse to me Well, it's possible it's just a bag, and not a purse ? |
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Post by fleroo on Jan 20, 2021 10:14:31 GMT -5
Soooo, I just read the article in by that fella on the other thread in this forum. He stated the flint should strike the frizzen 1/3 to 1/2 way up the frizzen. IF that is true, then I guess mine is hitting ok, as I would put it just above 1/3.
If that's the case, they should start making frizzens that are about half their current height. LOL
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Post by davet on Jan 20, 2021 14:12:53 GMT -5
If it ignites your pan powder, I don't think it matters if it's .200 thousands above the bottom of the frizzen.
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Post by fleroo on Jan 20, 2021 14:26:20 GMT -5
If it ignites your pan powder, I don't think it matters if it's .200 thousands above the bottom of the frizzen. Well I get that. But, when it comes to flinters, the notion we all hear is "A fine tuned lock". That said, it makes sense that the more surface the flint scrapes from the frizzen, the more spark shower the pan receives. Perhaps mine is just getting by with just enough spark with a quality flint with a bunch of life in it. That may wane as the flint wears, and equate to a misfire on a 12 pt B&C quality buck some day.  Sooooo, I'd like to have the lock system as close to proper as I possibly can. |
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