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Post by blackbruin on Sept 15, 2019 8:07:57 GMT -5
Well as we sit here looks like I'll be adding another classic.
1917 takedown lightweight...the predecessor to the f.
Has 20" lightweight tapered barrel and .308 diameter unlike the early ones were .312
Fortunately all original and ready to be carried in the mountains this season...
I know .303 savage ammo is hard to find but I have a bunch of new brass and some 170 grain nosler partitions and some rl-15 powder and some of that new lever revolution powder too.
Off to the range here soon.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 9:50:43 GMT -5
The factory loads we used to be able to get were 190 grain Winchester silver tips. A few years ago, Hawk did a run of .308 diameter 190 grain bullets. I bought a box. What I wish I could find is some of those 190 grain silver tips.
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Post by acorn20 on Sept 16, 2019 22:43:37 GMT -5
I never cared for the Winchester 190 grain silvertips George. I preferred the Remington 180 grain, soft point, Core-lokts. The best ammo for the .303 in my opinion was the Remington 180 grain, soft point, mushroom Corelokts. About 15 years ago I picked up three, new old stock boxes of these at the Harrisburg gun show.
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Post by davet on Sept 17, 2019 4:38:47 GMT -5
I've always had success with my .308 using 150gr. bullets.
FWIW
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 5:13:05 GMT -5
Not sure why that 190 grain loading became the one to go to for the .303 Savage, but toward the end, that was all that was available. I have one box made by Winchester Western with 190 grain expanding bullets (price written on the box is $4.05), and one box of Winchester 190 grain silvertip. No price on that second box. The third box of .303 I have are handloads with the 190 grain Hawk bullet. All three seem to shoot fairly well considering that I only have open sights on mine. According to the site linked below, my Model 1899 was manufactured in 1913. Mine is also a takedown model. www.savage99.com/savage99_dates.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 6:14:21 GMT -5
Picked this up at 24 hour campfire site. I don't vouch for this data, but it may be a starting point if you want to reload for the .303 Savage. If interested, I have a copy of CARTRIDGES OF THE WORLD. It lists some loads for the .303 Savage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 6:16:17 GMT -5
And, yes, I do have a set of dies for it.
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Post by blackbruin on Sept 17, 2019 8:43:05 GMT -5
I talked to a guy who is a 99 nut.
He said the 190 grain offering was to differentiate from the 30-30 as more of a big game elk and moose etc....
I have always like corelokts as acorn has said over the winchesters.
Also liked the hornady interlocks too.
I dont think any newfangled ammo like the leverevolution for the tube magazine guns or spitzers will make a rat's a$$ difference in any open sighted gun for the mountains where 100 yards is not the norm.
And no I will not put a scope on it and tap into the reciever..
I am making a tang mounted peep with a large aperture for a "ghost ring" sight. And I will remove the original sights, blank the rear one and use a different front sight that I can file down to get what I need with the loads.
So it can all be put back to original whenever i wish.
It will be my "driving rifle" which i am a driver about 99% of the time in bear and rifle deer.
Anymore I'm about the nostalgia and I dont care about magnum this and that etc...
I almost tried on a .358 savage 99 but wow do those ones go for some greenbacks, even in original..its crazy
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Post by davet on Sept 17, 2019 9:21:02 GMT -5
I'm using my Marlin 1895XLR this year for bear. My load for whitetail is a 405gr lead over the minimum of RL-7 and this load drops a whitetail like a rock. However, for bear my shots may extend out to 200 yards......a true maximum for the 45-70. So, I've loaded up a batch of the Hornady 325gr gummy tips over enough RL-7 to drive the bullet at about 2,000fps. When zeroed at 100yds the drop at 150yds is 3" and at 175 it's 6" and 200 it's 10".
I want the velocity for a flatter shooting bullet, and a bunch of energy. I don't want to chase a blood trail all that far.
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Post by turkeykiller on Sept 17, 2019 16:47:18 GMT -5
You guys gotta get up with the times. 6.5 Creedmore is the way to go. 😁
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Post by davet on Sept 18, 2019 6:27:28 GMT -5
You guys gotta get up with the times. 6.5 Creedmore is the way to go. 😁 Oh.....I see.....I see what you've done there!!  |
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Post by acorn20 on Sept 19, 2019 14:55:19 GMT -5
My dad, uncle and grandpap all used Savage Model 99s as did a lot of the neighbors in Bedford County. Dad and my uncle's were .303s and Paps was a .300. When dad got a .308, I inherited the .303...well, I mean I took it! We all shot 180 grain Core-lokts and I can remember many a time of looking for wounded deer. That cartridge just didn't seem to have the umphh needed to put a deer down. A friend of mine had a .308 Model 99 and he didn't seem to have that trouble. On his advice, just like Dave has suggested, we dropped back to 150 grain pointed soft points and holy crap, those deer didn't run off when shot! I remember shooting at least two deer with the 190 grain silver tips that we never recovered. My dad said they seemed to pass right thru without any expansion.
I read Dan's post where he stated he likes the nostalgia of hunting with certain guns and calibers. So do I. My friends and I have set aside our Benelli and Franchi shotguns for vintage double barrels for turkey hunting. Sixteen gauge is our preferred caliber for our "vintage hunts."
And lastly, I may bring my .358 Model 99 to bear camp this year Dan just so you can drool over it. I picked it up about 20 years ago for a song and a dance. It's a beaut and should be a museum. When they come up for sale at Reddings Auction they usually bring about $2200.
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Post by blackbruin on Sept 20, 2019 16:52:10 GMT -5
Oh I'll drool, I'm a .35 kinda guy......lol
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