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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 8:27:14 GMT -5
I know. Some folks like em. I never owned a 6.5. And hopefully never will.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 4, 2019 15:02:30 GMT -5
Far as I'm concerned 6.5's are a waste of time. If you only hunt deer, get a 243. If you need a bigger gun for bigger stuff, get a 270. With bear season overlap, and if you want to shoot a bear, my first choice wouldn't be a 243. Yes, I know, you will argue that a 243 is just fine for bears, but it really isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 15:26:29 GMT -5
Far as I'm concerned 6.5's are a waste of time. If you only hunt deer, get a 243. If you need a bigger gun for bigger stuff, get a 270. With bear season overlap, and if you want to shoot a bear, my first choice wouldn't be a 243. Yes, I know, you will argue that a 243 is just fine for bears, but it really isn't. Is that a fact? How many times have you personally seen the 243 fail on Bears? How many Bears have been lost in these instances?
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Post by Dutch on Apr 4, 2019 15:58:31 GMT -5
Twice.
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Post by davet on Apr 4, 2019 17:45:11 GMT -5
I know. Some folks like em. I never owned a 6.5. And hopefully never will. All the downrange power of a .308 at half the recoil. Where's the downside?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 18:38:24 GMT -5
I'm just picking on ya because you didn't read my post. I had already said if you're hunting more than deer the .270 is there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 18:38:57 GMT -5
I know. Some folks like em. I never owned a 6.5. And hopefully never will. All the downrange power of a .308 at half the recoil. Where's the downside? The downside is that there's no upside.
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Post by dennyf on Apr 4, 2019 20:47:12 GMT -5
The 8x57 Mauser suffers from the same anemic factory loads as the Swede and a few other old cartridges. Makes sense, due to liability concerns for the manufacturers. But none of my 8x57s are plagued by such things, since they only see reloads.
Even loaded to slightly less than SAAMI maximum specs, the 8x57 is capable of duplicating accepted 30-06 loads with similar bullet types and weights. Many years ago I sportied a WWII bring back K98 for my son's "first" deer rifle. Up until then, he'd been using my old M94 32 Special, because it was the only rifle I had that suited his stature in his younger years.
A bud's FIL that fancied himself the last work on shooting, hunting and especially, reloading, mocked me one night when they were down from Potter County and staying at my buddy's place. Upon learning that I'd built a M98 sporter in 8x57, he made a comment that it wasn't much of an improvement over the 32 Special.
I suggested that he crack open a manual when he got home and take a look at things. He thought that was even funnier.
So my buddy went downstairs to his loading room and brought up the Speer manual.
30-06: 150gr spitzer; 51gr of IMR 4064, 2900 FPS.
8x57: 150gr spitzer; 51gr of IMR 4064m 2900 FPS.
32 Special, with 170gr flat points, around 2200 FPs.
Give ya another spec. I once had a beautiful M98 sporter in 8x57, borrowed from a neighbor for over a year. Timney trigger, Lyman receiver sight, in a very nice walnut stock. Had a box of Federal 170gr factory ammo. Fired three shots rested at 100 yards, with the factory ammo. Dead on at 100, tad less than a one inch group.
Fired three of my 150gr reloads in the same rifle. Less than a 3/4" group, but slightly to the right and about an inch and a half higher than the factory stuff.
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