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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 18:02:11 GMT -5
My daughters 8, and I would like to try and get her out for turkey this spring Wheres the best place to find one?
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Post by Muab Dib on Mar 17, 2019 18:22:42 GMT -5
Hey stroupy; If you can't find one locally try Gunbroker. They have a couple with bids around $150. NEF 410 ga and H&R 410 ga Not sure if you're into the Gunbroker/auction kind of thing but I've never had a bad experience there. Not sure if anyone is making them anymore...maybe Mossberg is still making their pump in 410 - one up the spout and an empty magazine make a single shot. Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 18:27:43 GMT -5
How are the dealers when it comes to that stuff? I would think they would rather you buy it from them? Unless I dont understand how it works.
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Post by cspot on Mar 17, 2019 18:33:58 GMT -5
Stroupy. Be careful what you get her. Bought my son one when he was little and the recoil was terrible. Sold it and bought a semi 20 gauge. The semi action helps take out some recoil. When I started him out I only put 1 she’ll at a time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 18:38:32 GMT -5
Stroupy. Be careful what you get her. Bought my son one when he was little and the recoil was terrible. Sold it and bought a semi 20 gauge. The semi action helps take out some recoil. When I started him out I only put 1 she’ll at a time. Thats why I was thinking a 410 avlittle light but dont want to ruin her with recoil. The 410 kicked pretty good?
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Post by cspot on Mar 17, 2019 19:07:54 GMT -5
Stroupy. Be careful what you get her. Bought my son one when he was little and the recoil was terrible. Sold it and bought a semi 20 gauge. The semi action helps take out some recoil. When I started him out I only put 1 she’ll at a time. Thats why I was thinking a 410 avlittle light but dont want to ruin her with recoil. The 410 kicked pretty good? Yes. I think it was a Rossi single shot .410. That thing kicked like a 12 gauge. It was too light. The 20 gauge had far less recoil. For practice I recommend low brass.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 19:39:28 GMT -5
One time when I was a little too impressed with my turkey calling abilities I took out a .410 with 3" mag #4's. I called a Bird in to 15 yards and let loose on it. It dropped at the shot. Then got up and flew away never to be seen again.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 17, 2019 19:45:07 GMT -5
My brother said the same thing about a light 410 and suggested at 20 semi.
In fact, we were patterning my brothers 12 gave today and he's now thinking of a 20 semi.
I looked up TriStar semis. MSRP of $500 for a plastic stocked one. Other brother said they are nice guns, what he saw of them
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Post by Dutch on Mar 17, 2019 19:54:34 GMT -5
Tristar Viper G2
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Post by davet on Mar 17, 2019 20:15:27 GMT -5
I agree that a single shot 410 will give a lot of felt recoil. A semi or pump 20 gauge with a good recoil pad (Limbsaver) will be much better and the kid won't be afraid to shoot it.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Mar 18, 2019 9:02:17 GMT -5
I know a lot of parents are eager to get their kids started. Maybe if they are not ready for the recoil of a firearm necessary to achieve some degree of success, they are not quite ready to join in the hunt in such a way?
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Post by davet on Mar 18, 2019 9:10:15 GMT -5
I recall as a kid my first shotgun was a 16ga. I was dying for a 12ga. just because. Recoil from the Ithaca pump wasn't all that much using shot shell......but I understood what "punch in the nose" was when I shot at a target with slugs.
Never dampened my spirt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 11:14:18 GMT -5
I know a lot of parents are eager to get their kids started. Maybe if they are not ready for the recoil of a firearm necessary to achieve some degree of success, they are not quite ready to join in the hunt in such a way? I have 2 girls. Its hard enough to get the boys involved so while shes showing an interest I want to capitalize on it. I cant think of a better way to do it then spring gobbler. If you dont see anything at least you can hear them.
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Post by Muab Dib on Mar 18, 2019 12:34:31 GMT -5
Time in the woods with your kids is priceless stroupy. Get something that will make the game real and just enjoy the time out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 15:45:59 GMT -5
I'd love to say get a 410 and go hunting. But my personal experience won't permit me. I haven't even found the 410 to be a reliable killer on Pheasants.
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Post by cspot on Mar 18, 2019 16:33:55 GMT -5
I know a lot of parents are eager to get their kids started. Maybe if they are not ready for the recoil of a firearm necessary to achieve some degree of success, they are not quite ready to join in the hunt in such a way? I have 2 girls. Its hard enough to get the boys involved so while shes showing an interest I want to capitalize on it. I cant think of a better way to do it then spring gobbler. If you dont see anything at least you can hear them. Stroupy you should absolutely get them out and go hunting. Spring gobbler is one of the better seasons for going for the exact reason that you said. Even if you don't kill one, you usually will here a couple.
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Post by cspot on Mar 18, 2019 16:39:04 GMT -5
I know a lot of parents are eager to get their kids started. Maybe if they are not ready for the recoil of a firearm necessary to achieve some degree of success, they are not quite ready to join in the hunt in such a way? Since when is having to accept a certain amount of recoil a passage into hunting? I simply don't understand that. That is like saying they should have to go hunting barefoot in shorts in 0 degree weather to prove they want to hunt bad enough. Get the kid a weapon that they feel comfortable with and can shoot well. Alot of adults out there have poor shooting habits from shooting high recoil guns even though they won't admit that the recoil bothers them. Alot of time that started when they were a kid.
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Post by cspot on Mar 18, 2019 16:40:34 GMT -5
I know a lot of parents are eager to get their kids started. Maybe if they are not ready for the recoil of a firearm necessary to achieve some degree of success, they are not quite ready to join in the hunt in such a way? I have 2 girls. Its hard enough to get the boys involved so while shes showing an interest I want to capitalize on it. I cant think of a better way to do it then spring gobbler. If you dont see anything at least you can hear them. One other thing is make sure that the guns fits her correctly. Alot of issue with felt recoil is because of trying to shoot a gun that is has too long of a LOP. Some of the shotguns now have adjustable stocks on them that you can add spacers as she grows.
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Post by cspot on Mar 18, 2019 16:48:40 GMT -5
Another option would be a crossbow as well. My daughters started out turkey hunting with a crossbow as they felt more comforable with it than a shotgun. A popup blind and you are in business. I recommend a caldwell fielshot for a good rest. D70D976F-B435-4EAE-A712-B1D252DCE825_zps6xofxclz by cspot12, on Flickr
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 18:33:00 GMT -5
I have 2 girls. Its hard enough to get the boys involved so while shes showing an interest I want to capitalize on it. I cant think of a better way to do it then spring gobbler. If you dont see anything at least you can hear them. Stroupy you should absolutely get them out and go hunting. Spring gobbler is one of the better seasons for going for the exact reason that you said. Even if you don't kill one, you usually will here a couple. I plan to. See how ot goes and see if shes ready or if she needs more time. Dont need to get anything.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Mar 18, 2019 20:58:37 GMT -5
I know a lot of parents are eager to get their kids started. Maybe if they are not ready for the recoil of a firearm necessary to achieve some degree of success, they are not quite ready to join in the hunt in such a way? Since when is having to accept a certain amount of recoil a passage into hunting? I simply don't understand that. That is like saying they should have to go hunting barefoot in shorts in 0 degree weather to prove they want to hunt bad enough. Get the kid a weapon that they feel comfortable with and can shoot well. Alot of adults out there have poor shooting habits from shooting high recoil guns even though they won't admit that the recoil bothers them. Alot of time that started when they were a kid. Since when? Since common sense.
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Post by cspot on Mar 19, 2019 17:55:54 GMT -5
Since when is having to accept a certain amount of recoil a passage into hunting? I simply don't understand that. That is like saying they should have to go hunting barefoot in shorts in 0 degree weather to prove they want to hunt bad enough. Get the kid a weapon that they feel comfortable with and can shoot well. Alot of adults out there have poor shooting habits from shooting high recoil guns even though they won't admit that the recoil bothers them. Alot of time that started when they were a kid. Since when? Since common sense. Whatever. You keep telling yourself that so you can feel better about yourself.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Mar 19, 2019 20:18:27 GMT -5
Since when? Since common sense. Whatever. You keep telling yourself that so you can feel better about yourself. I went back and read my original statement. I have no reason to edit it. It's common sense that if a kid cant handle the recoil of a minimum firearm, they should be held back from taking part in the hunt at that level until they can. I feel even better saying it the second time.
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Post by cspot on Mar 19, 2019 20:29:16 GMT -5
Whatever. You keep telling yourself that so you can feel better about yourself. I went back and read my original statement. I have no reason to edit it. It's common sense that if a kid cant handle the recoil of a minimum firearm, they should be held back from taking part in the hunt at that level until they can. I feel even better saying it the second time.
Not when it is common sense that there are weapon choices out there that can minimize/eliminate the recoil and get them in the game.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 19, 2019 20:32:50 GMT -5
There are ways to get kids out there with guns that do reduce recoil. Would I send a kid out with a 12 guage 3.5 mag? No. But you can send them out with a gun they can handle, even if it means using a 20 gage, and maybe getting the bird closer.
The WORST thing I ever did to my daughter was to take her to a Women in the Outdoors thing where they only used 12 guages on a trap range. She came away crying and has been afraid of recoil since! Her instructor pretty much forced her to keep shooting, until I stepped in.
Now, if she could use a semi rifle for deer, I'd feel better, and she would too.
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