flash pan flame ?

[willyp]

How or why does it follow the  the route into the flash hole liner into the powder charge ?
How far is an optimum  travel distance ?

[Loggy]

The radiate heat from the pan powder burning ignites the main charge granules that are against the inside of touch hole. Radiate heat refers to the emission of energy in rays or waves. Heat moves through space(this case minimal air space of touch hole thickness)as energy waves are the carrier of the heat transfer through the touch hole. Some think convective principles cause the ignition but with the charge sealed with a patched projectile...not the case. Optimal travel distance is dependent upon flash hole design, type of priming powder, seating of main charge etc etc. No one answer other than if it regularly goes boom...you're at optimal!

[davet]

Went to the range today to do the annual flash-boom check on the rifle and the pistol. Both went well and the pistol is MOD at 50 yards with the rifle at MOD at 100. Now....if I can get a deer to stand in front of me.......

[Loggy]

Good shootin there Dave!!

I was out today doin a lil smokin.  Finally convinced myself that my 54 cal PA Mountain Rifle shoots a .530 ball just as good as a .535!! Now I can stop lifting weights in building strength for stuffing a .535 down the barrel!! lol

[bushmaster]

I'll be doing the flash, boom test as well this weekend. Taking both the 50 and 58.

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My cousin asked me to go up to his cabin with the flinters. So geuss I will do the ol click, boom, flinch again this year.

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Dec 20, 2017 20:06:38 GMT -5 stroupy said:

My cousin asked me to go up to his cabin with the flinters. So geuss I will do the ol click, boom, flinch again this year.

That's why I had to give it up. I couldn't conquer the flinch. I did get a deer but it was a 10 yard shot. 

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Dec 20, 2017 20:17:39 GMT -5 moosemike said:

Dec 20, 2017 20:06:38 GMT -5 stroupy said:

My cousin asked me to go up to his cabin with the flinters. So geuss I will do the ol click, boom, flinch again this year.

That's why I had to give it up. I couldn't conquer the flinch. I did get a deer but it was a 10 yard shot. 

I think I got one but I couldn't find it, certainly acted like it was hit but could never find any blood.

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That's the other problem with them. No blood trail. We've found deer laying dead shot through the heart by roundballs. No blood trail and the hunters never found their deer.

[bushmaster]

I've never had a problem finding my deer using a roundball, as far as the flinch, It took me quite a few years to overcome that. When I did the deer started falling over. Took 4th place last year at my clubs flintlock shoot. Best I've ever shot. 25 shooters. Can't wait for the opener, it's like a Christmas present!

[Loggy]

Dec 20, 2017 20:32:05 GMT -5 moosemike said:

That's the other problem with them. No blood trail. We've found deer laying dead shot through the heart by roundballs. No blood trail and the hunters never found their deer.

I dunno Mike but I killed a lot of deer with a 50 plus 54 cal flintlock blowing rb through  both lungs leaving a short blood trail even a blind man could follow. A half inch hole double penetrating the boiler room is a half inch hole no matter how you cut it. I think a lot of the stories you hear about round balls not leaving a blood trail are due to bad/marginal hits. 

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This didn't leave a bloodtrail and that's with a 405 grain 45-70. A roundball is certainly capable of no blood trail.


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[Loggy]

Dec 20, 2017 21:16:29 GMT -5 moosemike said:

This didn't leave a bloodtrail and that's with a 405 grain 45-70. A roundball is certainly capable of no blood trail.

Certainly "capable" but not the norm.  I would of given up flintlocks when flintlock season started in 1974(43 years ago) if what you are saying is the norm of deers hit with a well placed  flintlock shot.

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I agree that it is no the norm.

[davet]

This is what I've been using for the last ten years. No patch, easy to load, and more weight than a 180gr PRB. I also use the Buffalo Ballette conical. The BB is 245gr, where the Hornady is 240gr, but they both have the same POI out to 100 yards.

[fleroo]

Why I'll be dipped-n-rolled. Was always under the impression that conical's do not fly true with a slow twist rate barrel such as described on that box, 1:66 ? Always thought 1:66 required a roundball, no exceptions.

[dougell]

Those are short and actually designed to be used in a 1/66 twist as per the name,Pa conical.They also often
Lot's of factors play into the amount of blood letting you get and the projectile generally has little to do with it.Sometimes you just have to shake your head.I shot a buck on the first day this year with a 180gt accubond out of a .338 fed.I knew the shot was a tad back when the trigger broke but was shocked when the deer dropped.It laid there for at least 20-30 seconds before it started kicking around,regained it's feet and hobbled off.Thinking gut shot,I waited a couple hours before even checking the spot where he was standing.Fully expecting to see blood all over the place,I was shocked when all I found was two big clumps of hair and not a drop of blood.I backed strait out and came back a few hours later and found him within 40 yards of where I shot him,stiff as a board.The accubond made jelly out of his liver and punched a big exit wound out the other side but there was no blood anywhere.Probably wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it myself.

[blackbruin]

Dec 20, 2017 20:32:05 GMT -5 moosemike said:

That's the other problem with them. No blood trail. We've found deer laying dead shot through the heart by roundballs. No blood trail and the hunters never found their deer.

Nope never had a single deer that fell to any one of my round balls leave a blood trail, but mysteriously I found every single one due to a crimson trail
Love this comment every year around christmas...smh