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Post by fleroo on Aug 17, 2017 8:11:05 GMT -5
I like the column Ben Moyer scribes for the PON. But, there are times, well quite often, that his choice of wording more than likely outpaces the comprehension of the readership.  Anyhow, I LOVED his suggestion of the PGC entertaining a "partial" type Pheasant Stamp. Say a friend comes in from out of state for a couple days. He wants to get after Pheasants a day or two, but deems $26.70 somewhat steep. Have a reduced permit that is good for only a particular day or days. 1 day, 3 day, etc... That is exactly how WV has their non-resident fishing license set up. It REALLY gets more people in the game. This would have worked perfectly for me and 3 others, that only chase birds 1, at most 2 days, when they come in from out of state. I see this happening... maybe as soon as next season. |
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Post by dougell on Aug 17, 2017 9:03:40 GMT -5
Here's another great idea.A few guys can get together,pool their money to purchase a digest and then have some wine,cheese,crackers and have a digest reading party.Everyone can sit around and try to interpret the rules.i'll suggest that in my next PON article lol.
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Post by timberdoodle on Aug 22, 2017 7:14:05 GMT -5
Better yet, you and the friend go to a preserve if you just want to hunt for the day... You don't even have to purchase a license... What a savings!!! You can even go on a Sunday and shoot as many as you pay for that day!
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Post by davet on Aug 22, 2017 7:18:35 GMT -5
Actually, the "part time bird" stamp may be a good idea. One of my gun clubs (yes....I belong to 2) has what is known as the "out of state membership." For this OOSM, a current member can have a friend or relative purchase it for $25 a year. Then, when the friend\relative comes "home" to visit, both member and OOSM can come to the club to shoot skeet, trap, rifle, pistol. This OOSM is much less than paying the one day non-member fee if you bring in a guest.
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Post by fleroo on Aug 22, 2017 7:37:11 GMT -5
Well, that would be an option I reckon. And we all have the cash to do it. BUT, 3 or 4 dog-less men, tromping around a preserve, trying to boot "bag spun" birds into the air after a swift kick or two ? Naaaaaa. You use the term "hunt" quite loosely there thimbledoinker.  Now, spraying feathers in the name of a dog man, getting in some dog work.... shucks ya. |
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Post by timberdoodle on Aug 22, 2017 7:49:37 GMT -5
not to worry fleedoo, they will rent you a dog and handler... you don't even have to feed the dog...more savings!!
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Post by fleroo on Aug 22, 2017 13:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by timberdoodle on Aug 22, 2017 13:35:36 GMT -5
I'm not the least bit Shockeyed
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Post by westfieldjoe on Aug 22, 2017 15:49:12 GMT -5
Well, that would be an option I reckon. And we all have the cash to do it. BUT, 3 or 4 dog-less men, tromping around a preserve, trying to boot "bag spun" birds into the air after a swift kick or two ? Naaaaaa. You use the term "hunt" quite loosely there thimbledoinker. Now, spraying feathers in the name of a dog man, getting in some dog work.... shucks ya. In the thread lead off you say the price of a PGC pheasant permit is a little steep for those who can only do a 2 day hunt. Here you say you guys have the cash for a one day hunt at a private preserve. A sympathy symphony. Sounds like a bassoon and tuba duet. |
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Post by fleroo on Aug 23, 2017 6:38:33 GMT -5
Well, that would be an option I reckon. And we all have the cash to do it. BUT, 3 or 4 dog-less men, tromping around a preserve, trying to boot "bag spun" birds into the air after a swift kick or two ? Naaaaaa. You use the term "hunt" quite loosely there thimbledoinker. Now, spraying feathers in the name of a dog man, getting in some dog work.... shucks ya. In the thread lead off you say the price of a PGC pheasant permit is a little steep for those who can only do a 2 day hunt. Here you say you guys have the cash for a one day hunt at a private preserve. A sympathy symphony. Sounds like a bassoon and tuba duet. Ummmm, my friend joe. I believe $25 IS CERTAINLY a bit steep for "fly by night" pheasant hunters such as myself and my pards. Dogless men, that simply get together when a couple out-of-staters come in for a fall, mainly Turkey hunt, but also a day of chasing stocked pheasants. Each of us are pretty much on the brink of retirement, and we all serve as perceived "perfessionals" out there in the work world. So we make what most would consider fairly good money. But, that doesn't mean we don't mind our "bank" also. I could afford to buy and drive a branny new, spiffy 5 series "Beemer", yet I choose a 2006 Honda, and a 2003 Suburban, in need of a really good body man. Now, do I think that $25 is too much for fellas that can get out there consistently after those birds ? Especially the "dog men" that enjoy getting their mutts (sorry dog men) out there for some field work ? Shucks no. BUT, I can guaranfriggintee ya, the $25 will negate many of the "fly by nighters". Especially those with more meager salaries than what my pards and I are accustomed to ? Perhaps that's also a good thing ? Use one pheasant farm to produce 50,000 birds to the 20,000 hunters that want to chase them.  thimbledoinker (our resident music videographer), please queue the bassoon and tuba duet.  |
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Post by davet on Aug 23, 2017 6:54:53 GMT -5
As a self-made multimillionaire former client of mine.....who was raised in a two bedroom well kept house....once said to me...."It's easy to make the money, the hard part is keeping it once you have it." |
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Post by timberdoodle on Aug 23, 2017 9:19:49 GMT -5
In the thread lead off you say the price of a PGC pheasant permit is a little steep for those who can only do a 2 day hunt. Here you say you guys have the cash for a one day hunt at a private preserve. A sympathy symphony. Sounds like a bassoon and tuba duet. Ummmm, my friend joe. I believe $25 IS CERTAINLY a bit steep for "fly by night" pheasant hunters such as myself and my pards. Dogless men, that simply get together when a couple out-of-staters come in for a fall, mainly Turkey hunt, but also a day of chasing stocked pheasants. Each of us are pretty much on the brink of retirement, and we all serve as perceived "perfessionals" out there in the work world. So we make what most would consider fairly good money. But, that doesn't mean we don't mind our "bank" also. I could afford to buy and drive a branny new, spiffy 5 series "Beemer", yet I choose a 2006 Honda, and a 2003 Suburban, in need of a really good body man. Now, do I think that $25 is too much for fellas that can get out there consistently after those birds ? Especially the "dog men" that enjoy getting their mutts (sorry dog men) out there for some field work ? Shucks no. BUT, I can guaranfriggintee ya, the $25 will negate many of the "fly by nighters". Especially those with more meager salaries than what my pards and I are accustomed to ? Perhaps that's also a good thing ? Use one pheasant farm to produce 50,000 birds to the 20,000 hunters that want to chase them. thimbledoinker (our resident music videographer), please queue the bassoon and tuba duet. Flerrod, I shouldn't honor the request since queue requires waiting on a list or line whereas the proper form would be cue also pronounced kyoo would be the signal or line for a performance. The second cue being the correct form. Being the understanding individual I normally am I will provide this offering:
But please for my sensibilities please youse the correct verbiage in future requests. Thank you in advance.
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Post by fleroo on Aug 23, 2017 9:48:23 GMT -5
Oh dern thimbledoinker, did I queue up the wrong cue ? I will slot your request appropriately in my To-Do queue, but I'm sure it will happen again.  But alas, thanks for the duet. You're quite the accommodator.  |
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Post by westfieldjoe on Aug 25, 2017 3:08:50 GMT -5
Pa should designate various pheasant stocking locations as either $5 permit areas and $25 permit areas. Stock accordingly.
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Post by fleroo on Aug 25, 2017 8:02:30 GMT -5
No, PA should adopt a graduated scale for selling permits/stamps, so they can receive "a little bit" of revenue, that they otherwise wouldn't be getting in. Same could apply for muzzy stamp, archery stamp, etc... It certainly would entice more non-residents into buying a stamp, as opposed to not buying at all. I think the couple friends coming in from out-of-state, would buy and abbreviated stamp for say a 1 evening (day) archery hunt in the fall. And I know they would buy a 1-3 day muzzy stamp since they are back in for Xmas, and own flinters. Many on these boards have the "Awww Shucks it ain't all that much" mentality, which is fine. The problem with that though, there's a majority of license buyers out there, struggling more financially than what is represented on this board. And yes, they will choose their beer and smokes over a pheasant permit any day. |
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Post by westfieldjoe on Aug 25, 2017 12:58:19 GMT -5
No, PA should adopt a graduated scale for selling permits/stamps, so they can receive "a little bit" of revenue, that they otherwise wouldn't be getting in. Same could apply for muzzy stamp, archery stamp, etc... It certainly would entice more non-residents into buying a stamp, as opposed to not buying at all. I think the couple friends coming in from out-of-state, would buy and abbreviated stamp for say a 1 evening (day) archery hunt in the fall. And I know they would buy a 1-3 day muzzy stamp since they are back in for Xmas, and own flinters. Many on these boards have the "Awww Shucks it ain't all that much" mentality, which is fine. The problem with that though, there's a majority of license buyers out there, struggling more financially than what is represented on this board. And yes, they will choose their beer and smokes over a pheasant permit any day. How did knocking a dollar off a fishing license work out for the fish commission?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 13:14:08 GMT -5
Royal United's price per pheasant is $25. Chukars are $16. How many do yinz want, and when do you want to go? www.royalunitedgb.com/upland-gamebird-packagesYou might do better at On Point near Addison. Not sure if these prices are current. Pheasants: $22. Chukars: $14 www.onpointoutfitters.com/custom.htmlJust FYI, While I go to at least one preserve more than a few times per year, I also bought the $25 pheasant stamp to go with my senior license (eat your heart out, Dutchie). I considered it a bargain, and besides, I am spending over two grand just to go to South Carolina and hunt deer for a week. The licenses down there, including buck tags which I must buy this year will have cost me over $400. But then, read my tag line. Hey, the bottom line is that if you can't afford it, don't make your family go hungry. |
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Post by fleroo on Aug 25, 2017 14:21:25 GMT -5
Not analogous to selling a permit/stamp at a reduced rate due to a reduced amount of usage.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 7:20:32 GMT -5
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Post by fleroo on Aug 28, 2017 9:37:06 GMT -5
Sure. Something along that lines. Though, what you posted is actually a variant of a license, not a stamp/permit.
Why not offer permits/stamps, at reduced rates, to get more folks in the game ? I can cite scores of scenarios where friends, both in-state and out-of-state, would take advantage of reduced rate permit/stamps for reduced days afield... due to whatever reason. Better to gain a portion from the sales, than nothing a'tall ?
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