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Post by longbeard2372 on Feb 7, 2017 6:57:13 GMT -5
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Post by bawanajim on Feb 7, 2017 7:55:52 GMT -5
I would guess that that toe will quickly fall off and the eagle will be fine, but that won't make the pictures go away, we will be seeing them for years. It looks like a coyote trap that some one had attached to a drag with a S.S. snare, probably had it on a deer carcass in a field, idiots
The ones that really sicken me are the deer walking around with Xbow bolts through their heads, why would anyone shoot at a deer's head.
We keep asking for opportunity, and in return, we get the opportunity to spotlight the idiots in our ranks.
There are those amongst us that just can't seem to raise the stupid flag high enough.
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Post by davet on Feb 7, 2017 8:17:51 GMT -5
A complete buffoon who set such a trap. Jims right....you can't raise the stupid flag high enough. If this guy would....he would just hit more eagles.
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Post by jj103 on Feb 9, 2017 19:25:41 GMT -5
There was a picture of that bird today in our local paper, the anti trappers are havin a field day.
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Post by cspot on Feb 9, 2017 19:26:18 GMT -5
The Game Commission caught it and removed the trap.
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Post by redarrow on Feb 9, 2017 21:05:15 GMT -5
There does not seem to be any issue with the kind of trap. It may have been set illegally-too near exposed bait?
I did not see any pic that showed if there was anything at the end of the trap chain like a drag or a stake. If the trap was set without being anchored, the trapper was a fool. If there is a pronged drag attached, the trapper expected anything that he caught to tangle in brush very near the sight of his set.
Pictures like this show one trap out of the hundreds of thousands set each year. It still gives trappers a black eye and makes those who never gave trappers activities a second thought a reason to fight to end them.
I'm glad the trap has been taken off. The trap should have a tag on it so that it can be returned to the trapper if no laws were broken. If there was a law broken, it should be easy to find the trapper.
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Post by cspot on Feb 9, 2017 21:20:45 GMT -5
There does not seem to be any issue with the kind of trap. It may have been set illegally-too near exposed bait? I did not see any pic that showed if there was anything at the end of the trap chain like a drag or a stake. If the trap was set without being anchored, the trapper was a fool. If there is a pronged drag attached, the trapper expected anything that he caught to tangle in brush very near the sight of his set. Pictures like this show one trap out of the hundreds of thousands set each year. It still gives trappers a black eye and makes those who never gave trappers activities a second thought a reason to fight to end them. I'm glad the trap has been taken off. The trap should have a tag on it so that it can be returned to the trapper if no laws were broken. If there was a law broken, it should be easy to find the trapper. . They said no tag on trap. |
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Post by redarrow on Feb 9, 2017 21:28:29 GMT -5
I wonder if the chain broke and the tag was left on the piece that was attached to the stake.
Most trappers go over their equipment to check for weekness in any part.
It could have just been a fool trying to get away with something and wanted nothing to identify it as theirs.
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Post by cspot on Feb 9, 2017 21:50:33 GMT -5
I wonder if the chain broke and the tag was left on the piece that was attached to the stake. Most trappers go over their equipment to check for weekness in any part. It could have just been a fool trying to get away with something and wanted nothing to identify it as theirs. Yes it is hard to say. It said that there was a chain with a wire at the end of it. Who knows as the tag could have gotten caught and ripped off as well depending on how it was attached. |
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Post by davet on Feb 10, 2017 9:56:31 GMT -5
I've given this some thought....since I have done some "hobby trapping." For me "hobby trapping" is not fooling around. IT's serious stuff, but setting out about half a dozen jaw traps in sets to seriously trap fox and coyotes. This year I got a wicked bad cold at Christmas and could not do any trapping. That was a bummer as my traps were all set to go, plus I took the Pa. cable restraint course and then I made a dozen cable restraint "traps" with the intent of having about 6 out at a time, along with the MB 550's. Oh well....the best laid plans.
Now, on my cable restraints my Pa "number" is on a tag. However, on my MB-550's I have taken my dremel (the tool that will screw up anything of value in under 1-second) and carved my number in the pan on my trap. Why? Well....I don't have to be concerned about losing my ID tag after a "jumpy" fox does the all night twist on one, plus I've had a few of my MB-550's stolen. So....the thief will have to replace the pan. Nothing is free.
However, even if trapping were ultimately outlawed, your gonna have some twit set a trap with the bait visible from the air, and an event like this happen. Twit's are out there......they just are.
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Post by redarrow on Feb 10, 2017 17:03:02 GMT -5
I have never had a tag come of a trap. I hook it with a small hog ring pinched tight and then wrap the tag itself as tightly around the chain link as I can. I would think that some of the tags have been through at least a couple dozen 'coons and maybe a few other critters.
I only set a few traps this year in a friend's pond to get rid of a couple muskrats he wanted gone. I may try to sanre a couple beavers in the next month or so just to get it out of my system.
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Post by cspot on Feb 10, 2017 17:55:24 GMT -5
I have never had a tag come of a trap. I hook it with a small hog ring pinched tight and then wrap the tag itself as tightly around the chain link as I can. I would think that some of the tags have been through at least a couple dozen 'coons and maybe a few other critters. I only set a few traps this year in a friend's pond to get rid of a couple muskrats he wanted gone. I may try to sanre a couple beavers in the next month or so just to get it out of my system. Yes it is unlikely. Also not sure how it was staked or anchored but I don't think an eagle would be strong enough to break the anchor especially on that size trap. Maybe I am wrong as I have never trapped an eagle. |
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Post by bawanajim on Feb 10, 2017 18:51:44 GMT -5
It looks to me like the twitster used a beaver snare to anchor the trap, it looks like S.S. cable, he likely had it wrapped around a drag, which would have worked for a coyote.
Likely a swan hunter that is trying to improve on his kill ratio.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 10, 2017 19:19:00 GMT -5
I have never had a tag come of a trap. I hook it with a small hog ring pinched tight and then wrap the tag itself as tightly around the chain link as I can. I would think that some of the tags have been through at least a couple dozen 'coons and maybe a few other critters. I only set a few traps this year in a friend's pond to get rid of a couple muskrats he wanted gone. I may try to sanre a couple beavers in the next month or so just to get it out of my system. Yes it is unlikely. Also not sure how it was staked or anchored but I don't think an eagle would be strong enough to break the anchor especially on that size trap. Maybe I am wrong as I have never trapped an eagle. Friend of my brother's owns a Golden eagle. Fed it a roadkill fawn once. Only thing left of the fawn was the hooves and the skull cap. It was able to break and consume all other bones...... Might be able to use it's beak to cut thru wire or cable. |
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Post by cspot on Feb 10, 2017 19:24:10 GMT -5
Yes it is unlikely. Also not sure how it was staked or anchored but I don't think an eagle would be strong enough to break the anchor especially on that size trap. Maybe I am wrong as I have never trapped an eagle. Friend of my brother's owns a Golden eagle. Fed it a roadkill fawn once. Only thing left of the fawn was the hooves and the skull cap. It was able to break and consume all other bones...... Might be able to use it's beak to cut thru wire or cable. Yes that is very possible. |
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Post by redarrow on Feb 10, 2017 23:02:13 GMT -5
Never thought of that, Dutch. I doubt it could cut a cable, but wire would be little trouble. Still, the tag should be attached to the chain. Most trappers would never reuse wire.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 11, 2017 8:13:32 GMT -5
I was just addressing how the eagle may have been able to break the wire, if it was staked.
The tag may have been a victim of all the commotion, but who knows?
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Post by ridgecommander on Feb 11, 2017 9:19:17 GMT -5
The ones that really sicken me are the deer walking around with Xbow bolts through their heads, why would anyone shoot at a deer's head. I am sickened by that as well as sickened when I see a deer walking around with an arrow through its head from a vertical bow too. |
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Post by davet on Feb 11, 2017 9:28:01 GMT -5
I dunno how strong an eagle is. I know I don't want to find out under the umbrella of "personal experience." I only mentioned my etching of my PIN on my trap pans as should a thief take one and when he get's it home.....he will have some work to do to replace the pan.
However....as we have all said in the past......You can't fix STOOPID!!
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Post by redarrow on Feb 11, 2017 9:51:55 GMT -5
If I stamp my name on a trap, I do it on the top of a jaw. The tag(it has to be attached whether trap is marked or not) always goes on the chain and is wrapped then pinched tight with fencing pliers. I have never even had one come loose.
I don't bother getting an ID number. I just order them with my name and address. I have only ever had a few traps stolen, but When it happens I do worry that the thief may use the trap in an illegal set and I will be held accountable for it.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 11, 2017 10:15:11 GMT -5
The ones that really sicken me are the deer walking around with Xbow bolts through their heads, why would anyone shoot at a deer's head. I am sickened by that as well as sickened when I see a deer walking around with an arrow through its head from a vertical bow too. I remember seeing a buck years ago, in rifle season, with it's lower jaw shot pretty much off. Was going to be a slow death for him. This was before yotes. Yotes would have hastened his death. |
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Post by Dutch on Feb 11, 2017 10:15:45 GMT -5
Ya know, crap happens out there, at all levels.
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Post by cspot on Feb 11, 2017 10:26:58 GMT -5
Ya know, crap happens out there, at all levels. Yes and sometimes it is not the fault of the hunter. In a wild setting alot of stuff can happen that can make a "good shot" into a "bad shot". |
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Post by ridgecommander on Feb 11, 2017 10:40:56 GMT -5
Ya know, crap happens out there, at all levels. Yes and sometimes it is not the fault of the hunter. In a wild setting alot of stuff can happen that can make a "good shot" into a "bad shot". Yep. I don't assume when I see a wounded deer that the hunter took a shot that was irresponsible. |
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Post by Muab Dib on Feb 11, 2017 10:47:31 GMT -5
Too be honest with you guys, even if you set a land trap properly "stuff happens". I used to trap a fair amount for fox and coon and such. Primarily used dirt hole set for fox - bait out of sight, down in the hole covered with a bit of dirt. You'd be surprised at what might end up in the trap; I even caught black birds on occasion. Using conibears for muskrat, set well under water at den holes I've caught ducks and trout. Just saying that maybe the trapper did everything right... and stuff happened beyond his control. Just say'n of course.... stirthepot
Muab
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