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Post by dennyf on Jan 24, 2015 8:16:33 GMT -5
Just received word that a bill may soon be introduced to make semis 223 and smaller, legal for 'yotes, foxes and woodchucks. Said to be similar to the one introduced in the previous House session by former Rep Lucas.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 24, 2015 10:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 24, 2015 10:18:41 GMT -5
Emails already sent. Will see where it goes.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 24, 2015 12:14:42 GMT -5
Oh no, I'm not in favor of this. Those black rifles are dangerous and have no business in the hands of hunters.
Pennsylvania is "different".
Honestly, I'd love using a semi on a yote, and if it's a five round mag limitation, I'm good with that.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 24, 2015 12:21:54 GMT -5
Email sent to him and my local Rep
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 25, 2015 8:41:13 GMT -5
I also sent a email to Sonney asking him to consider changing the language to .224 caliber or smaller. 223 is a cartridge and there could be confusion on the sportsmans front as to what would be legal. .224 caliber covers all like cartridges similar to the 223.
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Post by robinpa on Jan 25, 2015 11:47:07 GMT -5
A poorly written bill , its only cocerns seem to be the AR crowd , dont think it has a chance to see the light of day.
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Post by melody on Jan 28, 2015 10:03:22 GMT -5
This one may be better:
HCO 893 By Saccone. Allows hunting with semi-automatic rifles in Pennsylvania.
* January 26, 2015 02:32 PM
* Rep. Rick Saccone
* Hunting with Semiautomatic Rifles, former HB 2333
* In the near future I plan on introducing legislation that would amend
* Title 34 section 2308 Unlawful Devices and Methods to allow hunting
* with semi-automatic rifles in Pennsylvania. More specifically it would
* allow hunting with semi-automatic center fire rifles limited to a five
* shell capacity and .22 caliber semi-automatic rim fire rifles with a
* built in capacity limit.
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* Currently, we are one of two states forbidding such hunting. Even
* Hawaii, California and New York allow hunting with semiautomatic
* rifles.
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* Pennsylvania hunters have proven for decades that they are
* trustworthy, responsible and ethical stewards of Pennsylvania's
* hunting/sporting heritage.
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* It is time Pennsylvania joins the rest of America in allowing hunting
* in this regard.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 28, 2015 10:11:19 GMT -5
Ok, I'm good wit dat as well.
Of course, the "old" guys will think it's dangerous..... but, a 7600 with a 10 round mag will still be legal...
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Post by Dutch on Jan 28, 2015 10:12:10 GMT -5
Oh, now wait, what will the public "perception" of using a black rifle be??? Sorta like kids in diapers shooting big racked bucks. LMBO!
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Post by GlennD on Jan 28, 2015 10:17:41 GMT -5
Big supporter of Auto loaders here. Lots of reasons. Mostly reduced recoil for the young, the frail, the elderly, and physically handicapped. plus, reduced recoil makes a lot of people better marksmen.
The myth of spray and pray is just that, another myth based on urban legend and not supported by fact.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 28, 2015 10:20:31 GMT -5
My nephew was one of the worst rifle shots I ever saw. Gave him my AR, open sights, and just left him shoot. Man, cured some of his bad practices. He was in his mid 20's then. He is now a state trooper. I'm thinking he shoots them better now?  |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 28, 2015 11:21:22 GMT -5
Actually, reading this again. It is again not worded very well either. " Semi-automatic center fire rifles limited to a five shell capacity" would make the 5 round mags that are commonplace illegal. 1 in the pipe and 5 in the mag is 6. Illegal. The langauge should read "magazine capacity limit of 5 rounds".
And what is a "built in capacity limit" for 22 rimfire? Tube magazines but not detachable magazines? Some tube mags can hold over a dozen rounds.
Shucks!
Will send email again asking for better language.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 28, 2015 12:02:35 GMT -5
Talking to Rick Saccone now. That was fast, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 11:01:43 GMT -5
LOL!!!! Does anyone really think this Anti-Hunting BOC would ever trust PA hunters to use semi-auto rifles in a safe and responsible manner when they Don't trust you to mentor a child in a responsible manner? This is too funny.
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Post by dougell on Mar 19, 2015 13:47:02 GMT -5
That's very true Bob.I'm not sure what the issue really is.I could care less if they're legal but fully understand the reasoning behind not limiting their use for hunting and that's good enough for me.What I don't get is why anyone would want to use one.I'm mean,why is everyone so excited that they may get to use them for coyotes?I sure as heck wouldn't run out and buy one for the rare occurence I may get a shot at a coyote.I'm thinking any rifle in my safe would be just as effective.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 20, 2015 7:52:16 GMT -5
Doug, there are many, very committed yote hunters. Night hunters, and those that run dogs. Some of these guys would benefit with semi rifles. A nice 5 shot semi with a predator light on it would be bad medicine for a yote.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 20, 2015 7:53:34 GMT -5
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Post by dougell on Mar 20, 2015 8:04:00 GMT -5
Doug, there are many, very committed yote hunters. Night hunters, and those that run dogs. Some of these guys would benefit with semi rifles. A nice 5 shot semi with a predator light on it would be bad medicine for a yote. I honestly don't see how Dutch.Have you ever missed a coyote or blew a chance to shoot at one?I have and there's gone in an instant and they don't stop to look back,especially in Pa where we don't have much open prairie.Semi or not,there very little chance for an accurate follow up shot.With that said,I have no issues with them being legal.I just fail to see the excitement. |
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Post by dougell on Mar 20, 2015 8:05:59 GMT -5
Big supporter of Auto loaders here. Lots of reasons. Mostly reduced recoil for the young, the frail, the elderly, and physically handicapped. plus, reduced recoil makes a lot of people better marksmen. The myth of spray and pray is just that, another myth based on urban legend and not supported by fact. I understand that as well and fully agree.A gas operated semi allows my son to use 3" heavy shot loads out of a 20ga with no issues.However,there is no recoil with a .223 or smaller. |
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