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Post by johns on Jun 25, 2014 16:47:43 GMT -5
One of these pups will be mine in about 4 weeks. Open link and click on update June 24, Santanna and Count pups. lifewithllewellins.com/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 16:53:53 GMT -5
Congrats on the new setter, John. You will not regret spending this money.
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Post by bawanajim on Jun 25, 2014 21:26:27 GMT -5
Bonnie and Clyde look like a real handful!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 5:22:32 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, John, where are these pups located? You going the whole way to Michigan? And how come you aren't getting another Ryman setter?
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Post by johns on Jun 26, 2014 6:08:23 GMT -5
They are located in Mich, UP. I will either have the pup flown here or the kennel owners could bring it to western PA if they visit home at the time the pups are old enugh to be sold. They started out in western PA but mover to Mich because of the high grouse population since they train dogs and can find plenty of grouse anytime where they are now. I didn't get another Ryman because I didn't want to be tempted to compare a new dog to Whisky and he cannot be replaced. Probably sounds silly, but there it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 7:32:22 GMT -5
Not silly at all, John. Hope you enjoy this one as much as Whiskey.
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Post by johns on Jun 26, 2014 7:53:58 GMT -5
Thanks Mutt.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 9:09:40 GMT -5
Enjoy the new pup John.
It's just about a year since we had to put our setter down and I'm almost ready to jump back into the saddle.
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Post by acorn20 on Jun 26, 2014 19:33:48 GMT -5
Congrats on the new pup John. I'm by no means a dog expert but I didn't know you owned a Ryman setter. I always thought it was an English setter. Or is a Ryman a "type" of English Setter or just a different setter? I googled Ryman setters and a found several sites that have Classic English Setters as well as Ryman setters but it doesn't explain the difference. To make matters worse, or better, I found out that there is also an Old Hemlock Setter as well as the Llewellens. What are the differences between breeds or are these just the ancient linnage (sp) that these dogs are from?
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Post by bawanajim on Jun 26, 2014 20:05:04 GMT -5
John, Trout Lake is 10 hrs from here, and I'm about 20 minutes from the Ohio line on 80, if you drive the Cabelas at Dundee is exactly half way from here, its worth the stop the place is truly amazing.
Do not stay at the Best Western in Trout Lake, it is owned by a ................ and he thinks dogs are to be eaten, quite an azz is he.
The place is great we've been going for 11 years, I have a map if you want some added info.
Good luck with the pup, you won't regret the ride.
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Post by johns on Jun 27, 2014 16:01:22 GMT -5
Acorn, the Ryman setter was developed by George Ryman of Wilkesbarre, he wanted to develope a dual setter, for hunting prowess and looks so he bred show dogs with field trail dogs for years untill he developed the characteristics he wanted. George Bird Evans started his own Kennel, "Old Hemlock" of Ryman setters and wrote several books about setters and grouse hunting. I recommend the book "The Upland Shooting Life" by Evans. The Lewellin setter line was developed by Lord Lewellin in England and there are very strict rules on dogs that can be called Lewellen setters. Rymans tend to be larger than other setters, my Whisky weighed 100 lbs. I hope this helps explain the differences.
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Post by acorn20 on Jun 27, 2014 18:24:22 GMT -5
Interesting and thanks, John. I have a friend that has setters and he said he has Evans' book. Look forward to reading it.
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