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Post by stroupy on Apr 22, 2024 20:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by Dutch on Apr 22, 2024 20:54:32 GMT -5
THAT IS GREAT NEWS!!!
People will lose jobs, incomes will fall, and lessons about buying on credit will be learned and Trump will be elected because of all the bad news.
You should be as overjoyed as I am.
I remember after we bought my dad's business. That year interest rates spiked into the stratosphere, unemployment went to 11% and our business declined about 20%.
Guess what? We struggled and survived. You act like we aren't supposed to have recessions. We are. Look back at history, oh wait, I'm not supposed to live in the past. I forgot. LMBO.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 22, 2024 21:13:06 GMT -5
So if anyone doesn't keep up with the hate Trump narrative you don't seem to be very happy yourself. How many recessions should I go through in a short time? I'll start start complaining about far right extremists and Trump everyday. That's the real definition of happiness. 🙄
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Post by Dutch on Apr 22, 2024 21:59:48 GMT -5
So if anyone doesn't keep up with the hate Trump narrative you don't seem to be very happy yourself. How many recessions should I go through in a short time? I'll start start complaining about far right extremists and Trump everyday. That's the real definition of happiness. 🙄 You have gone thru exactly ONE recession since you graduated high school in 2006. The COVID thing wasn't even a recession, plus you got $1400 per family member in stimulus money for that. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 23, 2024 1:50:38 GMT -5
The covid thing screwed this economy up good. I know you don't want to admit it to keep your "middle thing" going but it's been bad for last 3 years. But the media says the economy is good on an election year and the middle types say its good. What the media says you repeat.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 23, 2024 5:53:50 GMT -5
The covid thing screwed this economy up good. I know you don't want to admit it to keep your "middle thing" going but it's been bad for last 3 years. But the media says the economy is good on an election year and the middle types say its good. What the media says you repeat. Look up the definition of recession. You've been thru one. Unemployment under 4% shows me things are good. Now, I will tell you that the pump priming has probably kept things good. That will eventually or better be wound down, then things will slow down. Interest rates will also slow things down. But right this moment, and for the past 2 years, things have not been "bad". You haven't seen bad. |
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Post by moosemike on Apr 23, 2024 6:00:20 GMT -5
Stroupy should've seen the 70s when you were only allowed to get gas every other day
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Post by stroupy on Apr 23, 2024 6:18:56 GMT -5
Stroupy should've seen the 70s when you were only allowed to get gas every other day In the 70s oy one worked for the most part. Now you need two to work and still fight to keep up.I just took my truck to get inspected the mechanic usually has two big lots of cars he sells with the interest rates and cost of used cars today he's down to one parking lot and the other is completely empty. He said the cost is just way too high right now to sit his money in cars that people are not buying. |
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Post by rusty on Apr 23, 2024 9:30:05 GMT -5
Used car prices are dropping a bit. They would be dropping much faster if, as you say, nobody is buying any of them.
Really stroupy, you should at least consider that those who have lived through so many of the things you predict and fear are giving you good advice. The doom and gloom you go on about in this economy offers very little to whine and complain about. You should be taking advantage of the opportunities that are out there, while they are out there. I talked with a young plumbing and heating guy two weeks ago who said he is working six days a week and has been looking for a helper for a while now. He said to call him later in the summer to have the oil furnace in a house I own serviced.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 23, 2024 9:55:41 GMT -5
I have trouble getting HVAC guys out to my work. They have trouble fitting me into their schedule
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Post by dougl on Apr 23, 2024 10:26:02 GMT -5
I've been getting bids to put a new roof on my house the last week.The going rate is pretty much $500 sq be it steel or shingles.I had a guy give me an estimate 2 years ago and he came up with 17K for steel.His latest bid is 28K.
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Post by dougl on Apr 23, 2024 10:30:37 GMT -5
Things are not good right now and it's all intentional.Our border is wide open and we're spending billions because of it.We'll also have another major terror attach in the next few years.Inflation is through the roof and it's largely due to the way the pandemic was handled and the price of fuel,again all intentional and preventable.There's been a war on the police and our criminal justice system for the past 16 years and that again is intentional.We have ridiculous made-up social issues poisoning our kids but hey,let's cast our vote so we can kill babies at will.We're doomed.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 23, 2024 10:48:31 GMT -5
Things are not good right now and it's all intentional.Our border is wide open and we're spending billions because of it.We'll also have another major terror attach in the next few years.Inflation is through the roof and it's largely due to the way the pandemic was handled and the price of fuel,again all intentional and preventable.There's been a war on the police and our criminal justice system for the past 16 years and that again is intentional.We have ridiculous made-up social issues poisoning our kids but hey,let's cast our vote so we can kill babies at will.We're doomed. I can't disagree with anything you said |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 23, 2024 18:16:08 GMT -5
I have trouble getting HVAC guys out to my work. They have trouble fitting me into their schedule I worked for Modern Comfort out of Grantville but before that out of Lower Hershey (Stovers). I sat 2 years ago at the shop more then I worked. Then quit and started my own business it's been up and down for a year now. People definitely are not doing the luxuries right now. Only what they have too. |
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Post by davet on Apr 24, 2024 6:22:54 GMT -5
Things are not good right now and it's all intentional.Our border is wide open and we're spending billions because of it.We'll also have another major terror attach in the next few years.Inflation is through the roof and it's largely due to the way the pandemic was handled and the price of fuel,again all intentional and preventable.There's been a war on the police and our criminal justice system for the past 16 years and that again is intentional.We have ridiculous made-up social issues poisoning our kids but hey,let's cast our vote so we can kill babies at will.We're doomed. I can't disagree with anything you said I can. --Our borders have been wide open for centuries. --Intentional? Trump didn't help when he nixed the lasted border bill that was proposed. --Another major terror attack in two years? Now you're Nostradamus? --The pandemic began under Trump....what? No shared blame here? --Police war? How about Teacher war? --Abortion has been legal since Roe v Wade. --Made up social issues I agree with you. It's social media that fuels this. --Doomed? I don't believe that one bit. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 24, 2024 6:42:06 GMT -5
Trumps the only guy who can be blamed and lied about during his term and when he's not in office. I bet some of you stub your toe and yell f'n Trump after you do it.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 8:16:15 GMT -5
You're not being honest Dave,not even close.
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Post by rusty on Apr 24, 2024 9:55:52 GMT -5
Trump killed the fix for the border. 2020 was one of the worst years for this country in my lifetime and it was under trump's watch. To say his handling of the pandemic was weak is to give him too much credit. Abortion has been legal for decades.
Trump and the maga cult thrive on the chaos trump creates and are proud of their hypocrisy. Even ignoring of trumps assault on our elections and his call to terminate the Constitution.
Dave is absolutely correct.
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Post by bake545 on Apr 24, 2024 10:23:30 GMT -5
Trump killed the fix for the border. 2020 was one of the worst years for this country in my lifetime and it was under trump's watch. To say his handling of the pandemic was weak is to give him too much credit. Abortion has been legal for decades. Trump and the maga cult thrive on the chaos trump creates and are proud of their hypocrisy. Even ignoring of trumps assault on our elections and his call to terminate the Constitution. Dave is absolutely correct. Not disagreeing with you on the border fix but they wouldn't have needed a fix if Biden hadn't thrown the doors completely open. You can't ignore what caused the problem in the first place. Biden could fix a lot of it without Congress also but won't because they want open borders. Trump fans also completely ignore his handling of Covid. Trusting Fauci like he did, what a disaster. On top of that, he and Congress printed so much unnecessary money which directly led to our current inflationary conditions. Biden certainly threw gasoline on that fire but it started under Trump with both parties being complicit. There isn't a lessor of two evils to choose from in this upcoming election. I might just decide on election day to punch myself in the face instead of voting, it will be less painful lol. |
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Post by davet on Apr 24, 2024 10:29:42 GMT -5
You're not being honest Dave,not even close. To simply state that and not point out why is meaningless. And IIRC didn’t Fauci have his start under Trump? |
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 11:02:42 GMT -5
Well Dave,I hate to point the obvious facts but over 5 million illegals have crossed the border that we know of.That's more under Biden's watch than at any other time.They didn't just cross,they were invited in.It's not sustainable and we'll pay a heavy price for it on many levels.Trump is not in office so he could nix the last border deal.The deal sucked however and never should have passed.Covid was laid on Trumps lap.He did well on mnay fronts but gave Fauci too much leeway and never should have given everyone unemployment.IT was political but Biden tried to oneup him and spent billions more needlessly,much of which went unaccounted for.The left owns social media and the entire left pushed the nonsense constantly.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2024 11:07:50 GMT -5
Trump killed the fix for the border. 2020 was one of the worst years for this country in my lifetime and it was under trump's watch. To say his handling of the pandemic was weak is to give him too much credit. Abortion has been legal for decades. Trump and the maga cult thrive on the chaos trump creates and are proud of their hypocrisy. Even ignoring of trumps assault on our elections and his call to terminate the Constitution. Dave is absolutely correct. Not disagreeing with you on the border fix but they wouldn't have needed a fix if Biden hadn't thrown the doors completely open. You can't ignore what caused the problem in the first place. Biden could fix a lot of it without Congress also but won't because they want open borders. Trump fans also completely ignore his handling of Covid. Trusting Fauci like he did, what a disaster. On top of that, he and Congress printed so much unnecessary money which directly led to our current inflationary conditions. Biden certainly threw gasoline on that fire but it started under Trump with both parties being complicit. There isn't a lessor of two evils to choose from in this upcoming election. I might just decide on election day to punch myself in the face instead of voting, it will be less painful lol. I won't vote, so no pain for me. 😂 |
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Post by rusty on Apr 24, 2024 13:18:06 GMT -5
To not vote means that you believe on guy is no better than the other. I am not a huge fan of Biden, but I trump has shown us all than another term for him with be dedicated to vengeance and retribution. He wants to punish our media(anybody dumb enough he will be even handed with that?) He actually believes that a president should be free to commit any crime he wants. The fool admires dictators. He is worse for the country's reputation around the world. Every vote is needed to stop the threat he poses to us all.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 13:27:47 GMT -5
That's exactly what Biden is doing and he's using the Gov't to do it.
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Post by davet on Apr 24, 2024 13:30:11 GMT -5
Well Dave,I hate to point the obvious facts but over 5 million illegals have crossed the border that we know of.That's more under Biden's watch than at any other time.They didn't just cross,they were invited in.It's not sustainable and we'll pay a heavy price for it on many levels.Trump is not in office so he could nix the last border deal.The deal sucked however and never should have passed.Covid was laid on Trumps lap.He did well on mnay fronts but gave Fauci too much leeway and never should have given everyone unemployment.IT was political but Biden tried to oneup him and spent billions more needlessly,much of which went unaccounted for.The left owns social media and the entire left pushed the nonsense constantly. At the end of Trumps term there were 10.5 million illegal aliens living in the US. Today it’s estimated to be…at tops 14 million. Your 5 million is….lets say robust. The blame for the non passing of the last border funding is squarely on Trump. Republicans admit this freely. The old line of “Fauci…Fauci…Fauci is tiresome. As is “The left owns the media”. But none of that matters to you. And I could care less about what does or does not matter to you. |
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