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Post by Dutch on Mar 23, 2024 5:55:48 GMT -5
She was an army veteran that understood that she was illegally in the Capitol. There were no innocent bystanders in there that day. My wife,former Marine, says she took an oath to uphold the Constitution, and that wasn't just for the four years she served..... Tell you wife thank you for her service! Yeah but illegals storming the border is okay. Never said that. My solution would put me in jail and it unpalatable to 99.9% of Americans It's the same solution I'd have used during riots in the cities on looters and those storming the capitol
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Post by davet on Mar 23, 2024 6:43:15 GMT -5
Watch the video. The group pulled back the razor wire, ran past the armed men, did NOT harm the Patrol agents in any way, and managed to get another 30 feet to a steel fenced wall.
Nobody was shot. Nobody was trampled. Nobody was hurt.
Much to do about nothing.
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 8:49:03 GMT -5
Tell you wife thank you for her service! Yeah but illegals storming the border is okay. Never said that. My solution would put me in jail and it unpalatable to 99.9% of Americans It's the same solution I'd have used during riots in the cities on looters and those storming the capitol My apologies for the confusion. I realize you never said that and I know your stance on the border. My comment was for others that think these people coming across the border and freely roaming the country is okay.
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 8:53:08 GMT -5
Watch the video. The group pulled back the razor wire, ran past the armed men, did NOT harm the Patrol agents in any way, and managed to get another 30 feet to a steel fenced wall. Nobody was shot. Nobody was trampled. Nobody was hurt. Much to do about nothing. Several of the National Guard had to go to the hospital. How anyone can think this is okay doesn't fully understand the situation or respect the laws of the country.
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Post by davet on Mar 23, 2024 10:20:13 GMT -5
Watch the video. The group pulled back the razor wire, ran past the armed men, did NOT harm the Patrol agents in any way, and managed to get another 30 feet to a steel fenced wall. Nobody was shot. Nobody was trampled. Nobody was hurt. Much to do about nothing. Several of the National Guard had to go to the hospital. How anyone can think this is okay doesn't fully understand the situation or respect the laws of the country. Can't find anywhere that National Guard members went to hospital. You can't just say it and it's true. Back it up or it's like a big Orange Diaper man's words. A lie.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 23, 2024 10:50:16 GMT -5
I find no reference to hospital visits.
On EVERY issue, the citizens of this country are being played by those in power by their issuing of disinformation.
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 11:18:02 GMT -5
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Post by Dutch on Mar 23, 2024 11:31:31 GMT -5
Good, glad to hear it. They should have been SHOT, same as those at the Capitol and those looters in 2020 There, I said it.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 23, 2024 11:36:11 GMT -5
My nephew is a police officer, I want him to come home to his family.
I'm tired of the coddling of criminals and second guessing of cops actions.
That woman in the Capitol placed herself in a precarious position. She KNEW what she was doing was illegal. I have no sympathy for her. She paid a heavy price for stupidity. She took an oath, and she broke it. You do the crime, you accept consequences.
I'm tired of everyone making her out to be a martyr. She was a criminal
Deal with it
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 11:47:12 GMT -5
Good, glad to hear it. They should have been SHOT, same as those at the Capitol and those looters in 2020 There, I said it. I was just backing up my statement that National Guard members were treated at the hospital. You insinuated that I was buying in to some government conspiracy theory because you couldn't find any evidence.
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 11:51:08 GMT -5
My nephew is a police officer, I want him to come home to his family. I'm tired of the coddling of criminals and second guessing of cops actions. That woman in the Capitol placed herself in a precarious position. She KNEW what she was doing was illegal. I have no sympathy for her. She paid a heavy price for stupidity. She took an oath, and she broke it. You do the crime, you accept consequences. I'm tired of everyone making her out to be a martyr. She was a criminal Deal with it Jan 6 is over and people have been arrested and are still being investigated and many more will probably go to jail. What else do you want?
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 11:58:28 GMT -5
Several of the National Guard had to go to the hospital. How anyone can think this is okay doesn't fully understand the situation or respect the laws of the country. Can't find anywhere that National Guard members went to hospital. You can't just say it and it's true. Back it up or it's like a big Orange Diaper man's words. A lie. You really are a piece of work calling me a liar. I try to back up everything I post. When I get it wrong I admit it and apologize. Do you?
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Post by davet on Mar 23, 2024 12:26:46 GMT -5
Can't find anywhere that National Guard members went to hospital. You can't just say it and it's true. Back it up or it's like a big Orange Diaper man's words. A lie. You really are a piece of work calling me a liar. I try to back up everything I post. When I get it wrong I admit it and apologize. Do you? All I stated was back it up or it's a lie. Seems easy enough to me as I could find nothing about hospitalization of any police or NG troops. The NG troops were treated at a nearby hospital for minor injuries. Nobody got knifed, bludgeoned, shot. In looking at the still photos in the link my money is on the 4YO being held by his mother .....the 4YO was likely the one who attempted to grab the rifle. They start 'em young down there. So, I called you a "contingent lier". That's not the same. You linked the proof, so the contingency has been met. Ergo, you are not a lier.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 23, 2024 12:28:08 GMT -5
My nephew is a police officer, I want him to come home to his family. I'm tired of the coddling of criminals and second guessing of cops actions. That woman in the Capitol placed herself in a precarious position. She KNEW what she was doing was illegal. I have no sympathy for her. She paid a heavy price for stupidity. She took an oath, and she broke it. You do the crime, you accept consequences. I'm tired of everyone making her out to be a martyr. She was a criminal Deal with it Jan 6 is over and people have been arrested and are still being investigated and many more will probably go to jail. What else do you want? Many are using her as a martyr, she's not. You brought her into this discussion, and I'm making my opinions known about those that loot and try to steal an election
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Post by jwk on Mar 23, 2024 13:11:14 GMT -5
You really are a piece of work calling me a liar. I try to back up everything I post. When I get it wrong I admit it and apologize. Do you? All I stated was back it up or it's a lie. Seems easy enough to me as I could find nothing about hospitalization of any police or NG troops. The NG troops were treated at a nearby hospital for minor injuries. Nobody got knifed, bludgeoned, shot. In looking at the still photos in the link my money is on the 4YO being held by his mother .....the 4YO was likely the one who attempted to grab the rifle. They start 'em young down there. So, I called you a "contingent lier". That's not the same. You linked the proof, so the contingency has been met. Ergo, you are not a lier. I am glad I met your contingency to not make me a liar. I never said anyone got seriously injured. show me proof I where i said that Please show me proof that it was the 4YO that tried to grab the gun. You are the one with all the proof start showing it. Someone told me just because I say something it doesn't make it true.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 23, 2024 13:24:00 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents. I for one would NEVER EVER use something the NY Post reports as "PROOF". Some of the news stand tabloids(Elvis sightings etc ) are even more credible. But hey...to each there own.
In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it "not credible" than credible (44% not credible to 39% credible).
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Post by Dutch on Mar 23, 2024 13:46:25 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents. I for one would NEVER EVER use something the NY Post reports as "PROOF". Some of the news stand tabloids(Elvis sightings etc ) are even more credible. But hey...to each there own. In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it "not credible" than credible (44% not credible to 39% credible).Elvis sightings aren't credible? Really? ?
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Post by davet on Mar 23, 2024 14:17:12 GMT -5
I am glad I met your contingency to not make me a liar. I never said anyone got seriously injured. show me proof I where i said that Please show me proof that it was the 4YO that tried to grab the gun. You are the one with all the proof start showing it. Someone told me just because I say something it doesn't make it true. #1--I'm glad that you're glad. #2--I never said you stated that. The inference of "taking them to the hospital" evokes a more serious injury. I simply clarified it. #3--If you can't detect my sarcasm,, then what can I say? #4--I'll try and keep up
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Post by Loggy on Mar 23, 2024 14:22:36 GMT -5
Well Your Honor........it gotta be true as "unnamed sources" even told the NY Post it's true!!! Certainly you can admit that into evidence!! Note to JWK...we're just having a lil good fun!!
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Post by jwk on Mar 24, 2024 10:07:20 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents. I for one would NEVER EVER use something the NY Post reports as "PROOF". Some of the news stand tabloids(Elvis sightings etc ) are even more credible. But hey...to each there own. In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it "not credible" than credible (44% not credible to 39% credible).Who cares what a Pace University survey says. If you took a survey at Harvard they would claim it's even less credible. What sources do you find credible? I would be glad to check them out and form my own opinion.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 24, 2024 13:03:23 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents. I for one would NEVER EVER use something the NY Post reports as "PROOF". Some of the news stand tabloids(Elvis sightings etc ) are even more credible. But hey...to each there own. In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it "not credible" than credible (44% not credible to 39% credible).Who cares what a Pace University survey says. If you took a survey at Harvard they would claim it's even less credible. What sources do you find credible? I would be glad to check them out and form my own opinion. LexisNexis, Westlaw, WSJ, Barrons, Bloomberg etc. To have a high reliance on it's credibility.....I'd avoid ones like the NY Post(you used), National Enquirer, Star etc. To access LexisNexis or Westlaw(free) best to visit almost any public library or if you're a library patron some many grant portal access from home.
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Post by dougl on Mar 25, 2024 11:20:42 GMT -5
It blows my mind that anyone could defend this administration or just look the other way.We will have another 911 in this country and it will lie squarely on the shoulders of every person who supports this nonsense.
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Post by Loggy on Mar 25, 2024 11:41:22 GMT -5
It blows my mind that anyone could defend this administration or just look the other way.We will have another 911 in this country and it will lie squarely on the shoulders of every person who supports this nonsense. No one's defending anyone. YOU have just as big of role as anyone in electing the Reps in congress who are running the circus in our capital...assuming you vote.
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Post by dougl on Mar 25, 2024 11:57:50 GMT -5
I hate the vast majority on both sides but never have and never would vote for someone who favors open borders.
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Post by rusty on Mar 25, 2024 13:38:39 GMT -5
I hate the vast majority on both sides but never have and never would vote for someone who favors open borders. The cowardly "leaders" in my party caved to their orange god when they had the chance to correct things at the border. Their fear of loathsome creature is greater than the desire to help the situation.
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