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Post by Dutch on Mar 6, 2024 15:07:12 GMT -5
I watch the videos put out by these guys pretty often. This guy shot a nice buck on state land in Potter County, but in this video, he's explaining his thinking behind the shot he took, which most of us probably wouldn't take, or would we?
I'd like your thoughts as its a different perspective.
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Post by rusty on Mar 6, 2024 15:19:00 GMT -5
I may have taken it as a young hunter. I would not do it now, gun or bow. My younger brother shot an archery buck that he said was quartering away in the hind quarter and hit the femoral artery it dies very quickly. The buck I shot this season was hit just below the spine and behind the shoulder facing me. It also hit that artery and died as Quickley as any I have ever killed. The short distance he made it into the brush was painted red from about waist high to the ground. I doubt he made it thirty yards.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 6, 2024 15:47:02 GMT -5
It's definitely not a bow shot, but a rifle shot, I understand his thinking.
The buck I shot this year, on a steep angle, entered high on his side, and came out near his pecker. Slightly quartering towards. He ran, and bedded down in sight. I clambered down that steep side and finished him. He would have died right there
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Post by dougl on Mar 6, 2024 17:00:40 GMT -5
A shot through the hidquarters is lights out within seconds.It's as effective as a double lung.There's just something distastefull about it.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 6, 2024 17:04:09 GMT -5
Ain't gonna be much meat off of a deer shot there
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Post by bake545 on Mar 6, 2024 18:15:32 GMT -5
Ain't gonna be much meat off of a deer shot there You can’t out the meat on the wall! 😂
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Post by acorn20 on Mar 6, 2024 18:42:31 GMT -5
Back before antler restrictions, I shot a nice, wide four-point that played hide-and-seek with me during the last minutes of shooting hours. I just drew a line up tight to his hind quarter and broke his back and hit the femoral artery. He dropped immediately and drug himself just passed the tree that I could finish him in the neck below his head. Didn't booger any meat.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 6, 2024 18:54:45 GMT -5
A shot through the hidquarters is lights out within seconds.It's as effective as a double lung.There's just something distastefull about it. Bull, depends if it hits the femoral artery or not. DIL hit a good buck this past year, rifle season, in the right hind quarter looks us two hours to find it, and it was already shot before she shot it. Same quarter only low breaking its leg. Very little blood, got on neighbors posted ground, no problem, have permission to enter following a cripple. It didn't go, far maybe 200 yards but with very little blood, drop here and there and no snow, it was a hard trail to follow. Still need put out of its misery when we found it.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 6, 2024 20:47:23 GMT -5
Ain't gonna be much meat off of a deer shot there You can’t out the meat on the wall! 😂 Very true! I only put target bucks on the wall,I don't care about meat. LOL
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Post by Loggy on Mar 6, 2024 21:15:41 GMT -5
Made a similar shot a few times with drop in tracks results. Key is hitting high enough to traumatize the spine with the thousands of pounds of foot energy a centerfire provides. Obviously I wouldn’t suggest for a bow shot.
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Post by ridgecommander on Mar 7, 2024 7:32:07 GMT -5
Rock soild rest, close range and good shooter, that shot will kill a deer pretty darn quickly. I probably wowuldn't take it though. Same with head shots and texas heart shots. I like to factor in margin for error. To me, center mass chest is where it is at.
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Post by davet on Mar 7, 2024 7:59:59 GMT -5
Several years ago, after a friend of mine explained this to me, I had a buck who was chasing a doe run by me. So I hit the grunt tube (BTW...I was sitting on a log....I haven't hunted from a tree in over ten years) and the buck stopped straight away. He was a good ten feet below me on a downhill. I put my sight right on his bung-hole and released. (He was only 15 yards away and this is when I still hunted with a compound) The arrow drove down so only the nock was visible. The broadhead severed his heart and he only went 25 yards and dropped.
I'd take that shot again.....but it would have to be the right circumstances.
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Post by moosemike on Mar 7, 2024 10:09:13 GMT -5
Several years ago, after a friend of mine explained this to me, I had a buck who was chasing a doe run by me. So I hit the grunt tube (BTW...I was sitting on a log....I haven't hunted from a tree in over ten years) and the buck stopped straight away. He was a good ten feet below me on a downhill. I put my sight right on his bung-hole and released. (He was only 15 yards away and this is when I still hunted with a compound) The arrow drove down so only the nock was visible. The broadhead severed his heart and he only went 25 yards and dropped. I'd take that shot again.....but it would have to be the right circumstances. I took that shot with a 243 once. Didn't find the deer until it was coyote eaten and spoiled. It went hundreds of yards. F the 243 anyway
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Post by rusty on Mar 7, 2024 10:23:04 GMT -5
You can’t out the meat on the wall! 😂 Very true! I only put target bucks on the wall,I don't care about meat. LOL I know some guys like that, Dutch. I don't think I would hunt if I didn't like venison.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 7, 2024 11:24:50 GMT -5
Very true! I only put target bucks on the wall,I don't care about meat. LOL I know some guys like that, Dutch. I don't think I would hunt if I didn't like venison. My dad would get a little miffed because we shot groundhogs for sport. He thought you should eat what you shoot and not waste. Well, he never saw a groundhog that got hit with a 120 grain bullet out of a 7 mag. Lol
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Post by dougl on Mar 7, 2024 11:25:57 GMT -5
A shot through the hidquarters is lights out within seconds.It's as effective as a double lung.There's just something distastefull about it. Bull, depends if it hits the femoral artery or not. DIL hit a good buck this past year, rifle season, in the right hind quarter looks us two hours to find it, and it was already shot before she shot it. Same quarter only low breaking its leg. Very little blood, got on neighbors posted ground, no problem, have permission to enter following a cripple. It didn't go, far maybe 200 yards but with very little blood, drop here and there and no snow, it was a hard trail to follow. Still need put out of its misery when we found it. I've been on hand at least a dozen times with a BH and it was lights out.I did it twice myself by accident and my son did it twice in one year.Never saw a deer make it past 50 yards and you don't have to hit the femoral.
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Post by bushmaster on Mar 7, 2024 11:38:24 GMT -5
I've only hit that shot by accident. Never on purpose.
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Post by moosemike on Mar 7, 2024 11:39:39 GMT -5
Very true! I only put target bucks on the wall,I don't care about meat. LOL I know some guys like that, Dutch. I don't think I would hunt if I didn't like venison. I know I wouldn't hunt if not for the meat
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 7, 2024 11:44:11 GMT -5
Bull, depends if it hits the femoral artery or not. DIL hit a good buck this past year, rifle season, in the right hind quarter looks us two hours to find it, and it was already shot before she shot it. Same quarter only low breaking its leg. Very little blood, got on neighbors posted ground, no problem, have permission to enter following a cripple. It didn't go, far maybe 200 yards but with very little blood, drop here and there and no snow, it was a hard trail to follow. Still need put out of its misery when we found it. I've been on hand at least a dozen times with a BH and it was lights out.I did it twice myself by accident and my son did it twice in one year.Never saw a deer make it past 50 yards and you don't have to hit the femoral. Well, are experiences have been different. I have never see any hit's, in close to 70 years of deer hunting, that were hit in the hind quarters that put the lights out. They all needed a finishing shot.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 7, 2024 11:54:58 GMT -5
I know some guys like that, Dutch. I don't think I would hunt if I didn't like venison. I know I wouldn't hunt if not for the meat Wild game is the most expensive meat out there, that's for sure
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Post by Loggy on Mar 7, 2024 13:56:04 GMT -5
A shot through the hidquarters is lights out within seconds.It's as effective as a double lung.There's just something distastefull about it. Totally agree. Not a preferred shot but if it's your only shot and you have the confidence based upon your shooting ability solid rest etc....it's a very lethal rifle shot. You unload over 2,000 ft lbs(typical 30-06 cal inside 100 yds) of energy into a 100 lb deers spine(high hind qtr) it's gonna knock it down like a ton of bricks...DRT. IMO...you need a high hit traumatizing spin not thru center or low(leg area) in hind qtrs. I specifically remember one angling down shot I had from a treestand. It looked like the hit drove the deer into the ground...not even a quiver.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Mar 7, 2024 14:43:42 GMT -5
I know I wouldn't hunt if not for the meat Wild game is the most expensive meat out there, that's for sure Only if you choose to make it so. And YES most of us make it so.
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Post by dougl on Mar 7, 2024 15:13:40 GMT -5
A few years ago,my son called me and says he just hit a big buck.He was panicked as he thought he nicked a branch and sent in into the hindquarter.I told him to stay in the tree until I got there.He said it looked like it dropped within 20 yards but couldn't tell because of the brush.When we got up there,it was stone dead.A week later,he thought he made a perfect shot on a doe but ended up center puching the hindquarter.ThAT DEER WAS LUCKY IF IT MADE IT 40 YARDS.He was affectional knwon as Assman for the rest of that season.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 7, 2024 16:56:29 GMT -5
Wild game is the most expensive meat out there, that's for sure Only if you choose to make it so. And YES most of us make it so. Hunting is the only vice I have, cost be danged. 😂
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Post by rusty on Mar 7, 2024 19:57:00 GMT -5
It takes me about 30-45 minutes to bone out a deer. It takes me about two hours or more to cut it up for the freezer. I am very picky about fat, silver skin and especially hair. probably 20-30 minutes to vacuum seal the cuts and grind the burger. Add to that gutting and the time dragging it out or walking back home to get the atv or tractor, and it would equate to at least half a days work.
I could buy more beef with 1/2 a day's pay. It's all part of the game and I love the game-some parts are just not as much fun as other parts.
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