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Post by stroupy on Apr 24, 2024 6:50:01 GMT -5
The people in the middle always hammer the orange man. If they were truly in the middle they would say good things about him and bad but it's always bad and he's Hitler... I asked you yesterday but maybe you missed it. " Stroupy. In your opinion, am I right, left or in the middle? Just so I am clear who you people in the middle is referring to." You went from heavy leaning right to "try" and be a middle dweller since covid. People in the middle think that makes em right but it doesn't make em anymore right then a far left or far right person. That's where that magical judge in the sky needs to be drawn up.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 24, 2024 6:54:21 GMT -5
You went from heavy leaning right to "try" and be a middle dweller since covid. People in the middle think that makes em right but it doesn't make em anymore right then a far left or far right person. That's where that magical judge in the sky needs to be drawn up. So, in your opinion, am I left, right or middle so when you talk about those in the middle, I know who you are referrign to here?
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Post by stroupy on Apr 24, 2024 7:07:24 GMT -5
You went from heavy leaning right to "try" and be a middle dweller since covid. People in the middle think that makes em right but it doesn't make em anymore right then a far left or far right person. That's where that magical judge in the sky needs to be drawn up. So, in your opinion, am I left, right or middle so when you talk about those in the middle, I know who you are referrign to here? As of now middle even though I think it's a load of crap for most people.
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Post by fleroo on Apr 24, 2024 7:50:48 GMT -5
I'd go with, out in "Left Field".
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Post by fleroo on Apr 24, 2024 7:52:52 GMT -5
That's the closest thing to the "Who's on First" skit that I've seen in a while.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 24, 2024 8:25:35 GMT -5
Exactly what is the middle when it comes to politics? Is it sometimes where a person is left on a topic, and then is right on another topic? Is it where a person takes a topic and agrees with some of it but not all of it? I don’t know. I agree with stroupy, it’s a load of crap most of the time. Personally I think most people change politically as they grow older, I know I have, though I was never a far left liberal. I did leaned that way a little in my youth. This quote is usually contributed to Winston Churchill, but he wasn’t the first to use it, if he ever used it at all. If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 8:35:12 GMT -5
If you believe in the Constitution,Billl of rights,personal accountability and are fiscally conservative,you're a right wing extremist.That's me but I must be racist and homophobic.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 8:36:13 GMT -5
You went from heavy leaning right to "try" and be a middle dweller since covid. People in the middle think that makes em right but it doesn't make em anymore right then a far left or far right person. That's where that magical judge in the sky needs to be drawn up. So, in your opinion, am I left, right or middle so when you talk about those in the middle, I know who you are referrign to here? I think in your heart you want to be conservative but you like to argue for the sake of arguing and you're most likley surrounded by liberals.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 24, 2024 9:02:24 GMT -5
Exactly what is the middle when it comes to politics? Is it sometimes where a person is left on a topic, and then is right on another topic? Is it where a person takes a topic and agrees with some of it but not all of it? I don’t know. I agree with stroupy, it’s a load of crap most of the time. Personally I think most people change politically as they grow older, I know I have, though I was never a far left liberal. I did leaned that way a little in my youth. This quote is usually contributed to Winston Churchill, but he wasn’t the first to use it, if he ever used it at all. If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’ Me
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2024 9:11:54 GMT -5
Exactly what is the middle when it comes to politics? Is it sometimes where a person is left on a topic, and then is right on another topic? Is it where a person takes a topic and agrees with some of it but not all of it? I don’t know. I agree with stroupy, it’s a load of crap most of the time. Personally I think most people change politically as they grow older, I know I have, though I was never a far left liberal. I did leaned that way a little in my youth. This quote is usually contributed to Winston Churchill, but he wasn’t the first to use it, if he ever used it at all. If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’ A person in the middle considers the good and bad of BOTH sides of an issue. They don't take their cues from one Messiah, or ideology. My daughter says I'm more libertarian than anything, and she's right. Most of all, I seek TRUTH, which I don't get from the extremists on either end of the spectrum.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 9:16:49 GMT -5
I see no good with open borders,endless wars,rampant spending,dismantling of our legal system,trans rights,celebrating abortion,DEI,over taxation,weaponing our Gov't to go after political opponents and the list goes on.Where's the middle?
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Post by fleroo on Apr 24, 2024 9:30:43 GMT -5
Mmmmmmm, I certainly don't "celebrate" abortion, but I'll tell you this. If a couple of nasty street thugs (or anybody for that matter) rape my daughter or young wife, and they become pregnant, I would make absolutely certain the spawn of those demon bastards exits their bodies as fast as it entered.
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Post by rusty on Apr 24, 2024 9:44:12 GMT -5
Exactly what is the middle when it comes to politics? Is it sometimes where a person is left on a topic, and then is right on another topic? Is it where a person takes a topic and agrees with some of it but not all of it? I don’t know. I agree with stroupy, it’s a load of crap most of the time. Personally I think most people change politically as they grow older, I know I have, though I was never a far left liberal. I did leaned that way a little in my youth. This quote is usually contributed to Winston Churchill, but he wasn’t the first to use it, if he ever used it at all. If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’ A person in the middle considers the good and bad of BOTH sides of an issue. They don't take their cues from one Messiah, or ideology. My daughter says I'm more libertarian than anything, and she's right. Most of all, I seek TRUTH, which I don't get from the extremists on either end of the spectrum. I suspect most those at the extremes of both sides take their positions because they have a need for a sense of belonging. And they fear that any position they take must be 100% aligned with their chosen group so as not to be called out for their independent thought.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 24, 2024 10:09:50 GMT -5
I think in your heart you want to be conservative but you like to argue for the sake of arguing and you're most likley surrounded by liberals. Small govt. State power. Low taxes. Strong defense. Those are my core beliefs. Frame me however you wish to. Father, sister, brother, wife and daughter all vote Republican. My mom will vote both parties depending on the candidate.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2024 10:26:38 GMT -5
I think in your heart you want to be conservative but you like to argue for the sake of arguing and you're most likley surrounded by liberals. Small govt. State power. Low taxes. Strong defense. Those are my core beliefs. Frame me however you wish to. Father, sister, brother, wife and daughter all vote Republican. My mom will vote both parties depending on the candidate. See how ya get labeled and categorized when you go out side group think? 😂
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 24, 2024 11:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by Dutch on Apr 24, 2024 11:29:01 GMT -5
A Libertarian would advocate for my body, my choice. Personal freedom issue, I'd guess
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 11:29:11 GMT -5
Mmmmmmm, I certainly don't "celebrate" abortion, but I'll tell you this. If a couple of nasty street thugs (or anybody for that matter) rape my daughter or young wife, and they become pregnant, I would make absolutely certain the spawn of those demon bastards exits their bodies as fast as it entered. There should be reasonable exceptions for abortion.However,when they approved partial birth abortions in Va,those sickos were celebrating in the streets.I could care less what they decide as it doesn't impact me but when you celebrate an abortion win,your nuts.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 11:31:08 GMT -5
I hate all of the Democrats and the vast majority of Republicans.I'm simply a constitution conservative who believes in personal accountability.I just want to be left alone for the most part.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 11:32:46 GMT -5
A Libertarian would advocate for my body, my choice. Personal freedom issue, I'd guess People should be able to do whatever they want with their body as long as it doesn't impact anyone else.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 24, 2024 12:33:32 GMT -5
I can't do Libertarian because I'd have to go along with abortion, gay/trans rights, and drug legalization. I'm actually a traditional conservative Republican. Like we were before the orange God turned it populist
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 13:03:05 GMT -5
Here's the way I look at that stuff Mike and it's just my opinion.I could care less if a guy wants to marry his buddy or dress like a chick.It's America so live the life you want.However,don't force me to pretend along with you that it's normal and leave the kids alone.
I'm not into the legalization of drugs either because it impacts everyone else.
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Post by rusty on Apr 24, 2024 13:06:16 GMT -5
If you believe in the Constitution,Billl of rights,personal accountability and are fiscally conservative,you're a right wing extremist.That's me but I must be racist and homophobic. Surely you can see that, "If you believe in the Constitution,Billl of rights,personal accountability and are fiscally conservative" has absolutily nothing to do with what was demonstrated in trump's single term nor his behavior since.
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Post by dougl on Apr 24, 2024 13:16:14 GMT -5
What rights did he try to take away?Did he try to increase the size of the Gov't?Did he weaponize the gov't against his opponenet?Did he increase taxes?Did he increase regulations on businesses?Did he open the border?Did he promise to cancel people debts that they knowingly took on?He did think the election was rigged but that's not unconsitutional.
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Post by rusty on Apr 24, 2024 13:36:49 GMT -5
The right to abortion, he worked to make it hard to exercise the right to vote for some, he did reduce the number of federal employees working in the fields related to labor rights, but he increased the overall number of federal employees by about 100,000, he tried using foreign intel against his opponent, he did not increase taxes but his huge tax cut and increased spending is every bit as bad, He did not get Mexico to pay for a wall as promised but he did ruin any chance that the problem would be fixed because of his personal political wishes. And he did encourage the jan 6th attack on the peoples Capitol and his lies have his lower IQ supporter STILL believing the election was stolen from him.
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