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Post by ridgecommander on Jan 11, 2024 14:59:24 GMT -5
Looks like the PGC is proposing reducing the bear muzzleloader season to three days to reduce the harvest of female bears. The new agenda is up. No other big changes. Fall turkey season increased in some units.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 11, 2024 18:28:52 GMT -5
About time
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Post by Dutch on Jan 11, 2024 18:29:30 GMT -5
What am I saying, I don't like bears, keep killing those females. 😂😂 |
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Post by Loggy on Jan 11, 2024 18:44:12 GMT -5
Glad they are still planning on keeping the "Special Season" Regs concurrent with the 3 days ML:
Bear, Special firearms Oct. 24 Oct. 26 (Thurs-Sat)
Only Junior and Senior License Holders ,
Mentored Permit Holders , Commission Disabled
Person Permit Holders (to use a vehicle as a
blind), and Residents serving on active duty
in the United States Armed Forces, or in the United
States Coast Guard
(Statewide)
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Post by Loggy on Jan 12, 2024 8:54:05 GMT -5
Glad they are still planning on keeping the "Special Season" Regs concurrent with the 3 days ML: Bear, Special firearms Oct. 24 Oct. 26 (Thurs-Sat)
Only Junior and Senior License Holders ,
Mentored Permit Holders , Commission Disabled
Person Permit Holders (to use a vehicle as a
blind), and Residents serving on active duty
in the United States Armed Forces, or in the United
States Coast Guard
(Statewide)Just read that proposal to keep Antlerless also the same in the 3 day Special Season(10/24-26). |
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 11:51:53 GMT -5
Still keeping the doe ML season for that week. They haven't killed off the state Forest deer herd enough, apparently.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 12, 2024 17:18:07 GMT -5
Still keeping the doe ML season for that week. They haven't killed off the state Forest deer herd enough, apparently. It’s only gone to be 3 day, 24th to 26th, but us old guys and youth can use a center fire rifle. Good move, except for the center fire rifle part, as far as I’m concerended. |
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Post by Loggy on Jan 12, 2024 18:29:40 GMT -5
Still keeping the doe ML season for that week. They haven't killed off the state Forest deer herd enough, apparently. It’s only gone to be 3 day, 24th to 26th, but us old guys and youth can use a center fire rifle. Good move, except for the center fire rifle part, as far as I’m concerended. Dutch is correct......Doe ML Season proposed to be open Sat 10/19 to Sat 10/26: Deer, Muzzleloading (Antlerless only) Oct. 19 Oct. 26 An antlerless deer
with the required muzzleloading license. |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 12, 2024 18:38:39 GMT -5
It’s only gone to be 3 day, 24th to 26th, but us old guys and youth can use a center fire rifle. Good move, except for the center fire rifle part, as far as I’m concerended. Dutch is correct......Doe ML Season proposed to be open Sat 10/19 to Sat 10/26: Deer, Muzzleloading (Antlerless only) Oct. 19 Oct. 26 An antlerless deer
with the required muzzleloading license.Not the way I read it, this is straight from the agenda. B. Amend 58 Pa. Code § 139.4. Commentary: For black bear, the October muzzleloader season is proposed to be shortened to 3 days to reduce harvest rates on female bears and thereby promote stabilization of the bear population. www.pgc.pa.gov/InformationResources/Documents/January%2027,%202024%20Draft%20Agenda.pdf |
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 19:52:47 GMT -5
Dutch is correct......Doe ML Season proposed to be open Sat 10/19 to Sat 10/26: Deer, Muzzleloading (Antlerless only) Oct. 19 Oct. 26 An antlerless deer
with the required muzzleloading license.Not the way I read it, this is straight from the agenda. B. Amend 58 Pa. Code § 139.4. Commentary: For black bear, the October muzzleloader season is proposed to be shortened to 3 days to reduce harvest rates on female bears and thereby promote stabilization of the bear population. www.pgc.pa.gov/InformationResources/Documents/January%2027,%202024%20Draft%20Agenda.pdf The doe ML season is Saturday to Saturday. The ML bear season is now three days at the end of that week. The senior/youth season is the last three days of that week. |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 12, 2024 20:09:15 GMT -5
Not the way I read it, this is straight from the agenda. B. Amend 58 Pa. Code § 139.4. Commentary: For black bear, the October muzzleloader season is proposed to be shortened to 3 days to reduce harvest rates on female bears and thereby promote stabilization of the bear population. www.pgc.pa.gov/InformationResources/Documents/January%2027,%202024%20Draft%20Agenda.pdf The doe ML season is Saturday to Saturday. The ML bear season is now three days at the end of that week. The senior/youth season is the last three days of that week. Correct, my mistake, the doe season is the same, but bear has been shorten to just the last three days. Both should be just 3 days IMO, and center fire rifles should be eliminated for senior and youth, in my opinion. Course I believe archery season should be shorten by a week, but we all know that’s not going to happen either. |
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Post by Dutch on Jan 12, 2024 20:33:36 GMT -5
After my experience, I see that youth doe season as a recruitment tool. The old fart season can go. LOL
Wait, I'll be eligible for that season in a few years.....😂😂😂
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Post by Loggy on Jan 12, 2024 21:04:38 GMT -5
After my experience, I see that youth doe season as a recruitment tool. The old fart season can go. LOL Wait, I'll be eligible for that season in a few years.....😂😂😂 Yep Dutch used to think that way during my pre-old fart years. Now once reaching old fart status...purdy darn good benefit!!  |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 12, 2024 22:42:44 GMT -5
My problem with the old fart and youth season is the firearm. I see no reason why either can’t use a smoke pole. Especially an inline with a scope that is nothing more than a single shot rifle that uses black powder and you load at the muzzle.
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Post by Loggy on Jan 13, 2024 9:21:03 GMT -5
My problem with the old fart and youth season is the firearm. I see no reason why either can’t use a smoke pole. Especially an inline with a scope that is nothing more than a single shot rifle that uses black powder and you load at the muzzle. That would in effect eliminate the Special 3 Day Deer Season for Youth & Seniors by lumping them along with all hunters(under ML rules). Current Special Season reg does allow the Youth or Senior to carry a flinter or inline if one so desires. Especially with bear in during the Special Season....I think allowing the CF is a good option especially for many youth who are less experienced with muzzleloaders.... JMO. |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 13, 2024 12:49:04 GMT -5
My problem with the old fart and youth season is the firearm. I see no reason why either can’t use a smoke pole. Especially an inline with a scope that is nothing more than a single shot rifle that uses black powder and you load at the muzzle. That would in effect eliminate the Special 3 Day Deer Season for Youth & Seniors by lumping them along with all hunters(under ML rules). Current Special Season reg does allow the Youth or Senior to carry a flinter or inline if one so desires. Especially with bear in during the Special Season....I think allowing the CF is a good option especially for many youth who are less experienced with muzzleloaders.... JMO. Everyone is inexperienced with muzzleloader until they get one and learn. Start them out young and hopefully they’ll be hooked for life. |
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Post by dougl on Jan 15, 2024 11:44:56 GMT -5
Still keeping the doe ML season for that week. They haven't killed off the state Forest deer herd enough, apparently. I don't much care what they do anymore.They do hammer the bears during that inline season but I've yet to see a guy hunting deer with an inline,ever.If you find some bear hitting corn,killing one with an inline isn't that big of a chore.Then again,those are the problem bears that you want killed so I don't know. |
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Post by dougl on Jan 15, 2024 13:51:15 GMT -5
That would in effect eliminate the Special 3 Day Deer Season for Youth & Seniors by lumping them along with all hunters(under ML rules). Current Special Season reg does allow the Youth or Senior to carry a flinter or inline if one so desires. Especially with bear in during the Special Season....I think allowing the CF is a good option especially for many youth who are less experienced with muzzleloaders.... JMO. Everyone is inexperienced with muzzleloader until they get one and learn. Start them out young and hopefully they’ll be hooked for life.  |
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Post by dougl on Jan 15, 2024 13:53:52 GMT -5
 Kida are capable.This one is about 8 or 9 years old so hopefully the statute of limitations is up. |
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Post by Loggy on Jan 15, 2024 18:28:52 GMT -5
Yep……theres always those Daniel Boone types that rarely come along lol. Don’t always agree with the PGC but imo they have their ducks in order in connection with maintaining the Special Seasons “as is”.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 15, 2024 21:36:13 GMT -5
Yep……theres always those Daniel Boone types that rarely come along lol. Never wanted to be a Daniel Boone type. I always leaned more toward Simon Kenton or Samuel Brady. Never could master the act of loading a muzzleloader at a dead run though.🤣 |
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Post by moosemike on Jan 16, 2024 6:11:28 GMT -5
I read a book about Kenton and one about Boone. Kenton impressed me even more
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Post by Loggy on Jan 16, 2024 9:24:14 GMT -5
Read somewhere that Kenton actually saved Boones life during an indian attack.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 16, 2024 9:44:54 GMT -5
I read a book about Kenton and one about Boone. Kenton impressed me even more Allan W Eckert's book "The Frontiersmen" covers Simon Kenton live very well. But my favorite is "That Dark and Bloody River", also by Eckert. Both books are big and cover a lot of history, and a lot of good information on the founding of America. The feats that these frontier people accomplished were amazing, along with the hardships they encountered. It also opened my eyes to the cruelty of not only the Indian, but also the white man toward the Indians. |
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jan 16, 2024 9:53:31 GMT -5
Read somewhere that Kenton actually saved Boones life during an indian attack. They were friends, and that was stated in different books. |
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