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Post by westfieldjoe on Jul 2, 2022 8:59:31 GMT -5
Decision makers are starting to openly talk about implementing an Earn a Buck program in PA.
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Post by moosemike on Jul 2, 2022 10:47:20 GMT -5
Well that would be dumb
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 2, 2022 13:17:16 GMT -5
Pa is not a state that would benefit from earn a buck. The only area where it "may" be beneficial would be in the SRAs where does still need killed. Even then, there are negatives to earn a buck in those areas. If they went to a two buck limit in the SRA's, then I can see some benefit to implementing earn a buck for the second antlered tag.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jul 3, 2022 8:05:34 GMT -5
At the level this is being tossed around, it will happen in PA.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 3, 2022 8:48:37 GMT -5
At the level this is being tossed around, it will happen in PA. So who is "tossing it around"? |
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jul 3, 2022 10:53:53 GMT -5
Duane Diefenbach. It was in a news feed I received.
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Post by davet on Jul 3, 2022 11:18:03 GMT -5
I don’t get this. I always had to work to earn a buck or two. You mean some didn’t have to work…but now they will?
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Post by Dutch on Jul 3, 2022 11:57:36 GMT -5
I'm hoping this is only in SRAs. In my area, there is no need for EAB
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Post by dougl on Jul 5, 2022 11:23:03 GMT -5
Relax Dutch.You ain't no biologist so how are you supposed to know the difference?
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 5, 2022 11:37:32 GMT -5
Duane Diefenbach. It was in a news feed I received. Is this the PSU fellow? Does he have the ear of the commissioners? |
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Post by dougl on Jul 5, 2022 12:09:14 GMT -5
I can't speak for the entire state but the herd is increasing in every place where I hunt.I don't think EAB is the answer but more deer need to be killed.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jul 5, 2022 15:05:36 GMT -5
Duane is a PSU professor. Wildlife Ecology. If you may recall. The PGC deer biologist said a larger buck kill could be absorbed. I forget the number that he tossed out. There was a discussion about a second buck tag at the time. The EAB discussion is happening if Duane is putting it out there.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Jul 5, 2022 16:20:10 GMT -5
Great if you’re an archery hunter or archery and gun hunter, not so great if you’re a gun hunter only.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 6, 2022 7:21:54 GMT -5
Duane is a PSU professor. Wildlife Ecology. If you may recall. The PGC deer biologist said a larger buck kill could be absorbed. I forget the number that he tossed out. There was a discussion about a second buck tag at the time. The EAB discussion is happening if Duane is putting it out there. Where is Duane putting this out? I am interested in reading what he has to say about EAB in Pa. |
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jul 6, 2022 7:51:35 GMT -5
It came to me by way of a news feed on my phone.
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Post by fleroo on Jul 6, 2022 8:15:48 GMT -5
G'damn. Aren't the archers doing a bang-up fine job at sticking nearly half the buck now with less than half the manpower? Now this ? Niceeeeeeee. Money grab .
Now IF, and I say IF they make the archer earn a FIRST buck by taking a doe first, have at it IF they are serious about increasing antlerless harvest and not more interested in selling high-dollar extra buck permits to archers. You can't effectively have rifle hunters "earn a buck", as the season is too short to be effective.... though some riflemen will definitely go for it and be able to pull off a buck-doe-buck harvest.
I'm not on Farcebook, so can't comment on how the program is proposed.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 6, 2022 12:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by dougl on Jul 6, 2022 14:35:38 GMT -5
He's 100% correct but I don't know if earn a buck is the answer.
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Post by bowbum on Jul 6, 2022 14:56:21 GMT -5
From my front porch; I like the EAB programs.
We have far too many deer in Bradford County.
Obviously for the brown and down guys and purely meat hunters this would add an extra step if they also want a buck and, granted, it may not be necessary in all areas. Possibly it could be managed differently for different WMUs.
In states where they have EAB it "seems" to work and be accepted by hunters.
As with any management application, one size does not fit all. Certainly some areas may need it worse than others.
But the future of deer management is in for big changes with hunting participation in a nose dive and deer populations growing.
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jul 6, 2022 16:30:49 GMT -5
I'll bet it will be less than 10 years away.
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Post by moosemike on Jul 6, 2022 18:17:52 GMT -5
From my front porch; I like the EAB programs. We have far too many deer in Bradford County. Obviously for the brown and down guys and purely meat hunters this would add an extra step and, granted, it may not be necessary in all areas. Possibly it could be managed differently for different WMUs. In states where they have EAB it "seems" to work and be accepted by hunters. As with any management application, one size does not fit all. Certainly some areas may need it worse than others. But the future of deer management is in for big changes with hunting participation in a nose dive and deer populations growing. I don't know. I was scouting in SGL 14 and the deer sign was poor |
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Post by bowbum on Jul 6, 2022 18:24:12 GMT -5
From my front porch; I like the EAB programs. We have far too many deer in Bradford County. Obviously for the brown and down guys and purely meat hunters this would add an extra step and, granted, it may not be necessary in all areas. Possibly it could be managed differently for different WMUs. In states where they have EAB it "seems" to work and be accepted by hunters. As with any management application, one size does not fit all. Certainly some areas may need it worse than others. But the future of deer management is in for big changes with hunting participation in a nose dive and deer populations growing. I don't know. I was scouting in SGL 14 and the deer sign was poor I certainly don't know each and every area but I know if I go east, north and west in Bradford County I see plenty of deer and the people I know in those areas support those observations. |
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