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Post by Loggy on Dec 1, 2021 19:38:40 GMT -5
Norma introduced this new round this past year but still is no where to be found?? The same bullet I shoot out of my 6.5X55 Swede which I have had great success taking a PA Elk & numerous deer. An accurate/hard hitting round well structured Oryx bullet factory loaded to: Muzzle Velocity: 2560 fps, Muzzle Energy: 2271 ft lbs. The Norma Oryx bullet is perhaps the most famous hunting bullet from Norma. Oryx is a multi-purpose hunting bullet with bonded technology, a soft point and a jacket construction that results in a mushrooming projectile with extreme weight retention. Norma is the only mfgr I found to soup-up loads past conservative USA mfgrs factory ammo for my 6.5 Swede. They have since discontinued the 6.5 Swede. Was happy they now included the 6.5 Creedmoor in their offerings. I've had a backorder in at Euro Optics for several months. Hopefully, will be available soon. Norma 6.5 Creedmoor 156 Grain Oryx |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 1, 2021 22:34:24 GMT -5
Glad you liked those bullets, but wouldn't a copper bullet work just as well?
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Post by Loggy on Dec 2, 2021 5:53:11 GMT -5
They possibly could if any were available for the 6.5's in the 150 plus weight class producing similar ballistics as the Norma 156 Oryx? I shoot the copper Barnes Spit-Fire T-EZ FB 290 grainers in my 50 cal inline which thus far are my favorite.
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Post by dougl on Dec 2, 2021 11:42:46 GMT -5
I don't think bullet construction is really all that critical at modest creedmoor velocities.I bought a 6.5 this past summer and the only bullets I could find were 140gr flat based interlocks.My son has killed three deer with that load so far this year and the terminal performance has been fine.Don't get me wrong,I plan on grabbing some accubonds when I can find some but no deer will probably ever know the difference.
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Post by Loggy on Dec 2, 2021 12:45:46 GMT -5
I don't think bullet construction is really all that critical at modest creedmoor velocities.I bought a 6.5 this past summer and the only bullets I could find were 140gr flat based interlocks.My son has killed three deer with that load so far this year and the terminal performance has been fine.Don't get me wrong,I plan on grabbing some accubonds when I can find some but no deer will probably ever know the difference. I totally agree if when solely hunting your typical 80-100 Pa whitetail. I’m carrying my 6.5 on average 8 plus days for both deer & bear. I’m more comfortable with a better structured bullet stoutly loaded pushing higher impact energy to better my chances of a quick kill with minimal tracking/travel after hit. I hunt rugged steep mountain almost impossible navagable terrain where tracking plus with game extraction is challenging. |
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Post by dougl on Dec 2, 2021 13:13:04 GMT -5
I would also feel more comfortable with a bonded bullet is bear was on the menue as well.
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Post by davet on Dec 2, 2021 14:42:35 GMT -5
I’ve reloaded a lot of 6.5 bullets. I don’t recall any offerings in 150gr and. Bazillion in 140gr & 120-129gr.
IIRC the 140gr have a superior BC when compared to the others.
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Post by Loggy on Dec 2, 2021 15:00:10 GMT -5
I’ve reloaded a lot of 6.5 bullets. I don’t recall any offerings in 150gr and. Bazillion in 140gr & 120-129gr. IIRC the 140gr have a superior BC when compared to the others. Common bullet in Europe for the 6.5 Swede where many use load on moose. Midway: www.midwayusa.com/product/1010501044Norma Oryx Bullets 264 Caliber, 6.5mm (264 Diameter) 156 Grain Bonded Protected Point Box of 100 Product #: 518468 Manufacturer #: 66524-1 UPC #: 7393923665245 7 ReviewsWrite a ReviewAsk a Question Norma Oryx Bullets 264 Caliber, 6.5mm (264 Diameter) 156 Grain Bonded Protected Point B... |
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Post by waynzee on Dec 2, 2021 15:20:37 GMT -5
Ya know, I'm beginning to think from different conversations and forums that if loaded right it doesn't much matter what bullet you use in that 6.5 Creedmoor it'll drop deer or bear for ya.
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Post by Loggy on Dec 2, 2021 18:18:46 GMT -5
Ya know, I'm beginning to think from different conversations and forums that if loaded right it doesn't much matter what bullet you use in that 6.5 Creedmoor it'll drop deer or bear for ya. Amen on that Waynzee!! My goal is using a load that plants them pretty much where they stand vs after a several hundred run down a steep mountain.  My dragging days in those conditions are hopefully in my rear view mirror if at all possible! If I were only hunting deer I think the Federal 140 grain Fusion would be my choice. Was pleased with it's performance in my 6.5CM X-Bolt on a deer last year(2nd week of season). The 140 grain Nosler Partition has a lot of good reviews for the 6.5CM which whenever available will look further into it. For now,,,,,the 156 grain Oryx is where I'm currently comfortable with for BOTH deer & bear. Of course...all things are subject to change!! |
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Post by davet on Dec 2, 2021 18:55:34 GMT -5
Because I reload for everything I shoot, my 6.5x55 gets the same velocities as the 6.5 Creedmoor. So I see no need to have the Creedmoor.
But if you rely on factory offerings, you’ll be better off with the Creedmoor.
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Post by waynzee on Dec 3, 2021 6:43:06 GMT -5
Years ago a friend of mine had a military 6.5x55 Mauser I could have bought for a very reasonable price and should have. It shot that Prvi Partisan ammo into one small 3/4 to 1 inch group at 100 yards. Thinking back on that rifle I just wonder where I could have taken it with reloading, a nice stock and a better scope because I don't think it would have needed much beyond that to be a perfect hunting rifle.
To say I'm overly impressed with the 6.5 caliber for hunting in PA. would be an understatement.
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Post by Loggy on Dec 3, 2021 7:31:50 GMT -5
Amen Waynzee. I remember in my younger days just a few years ago  when those ole military rifles were lined up on gun shelves everywhere! Wish I could revisit those days for sure. My CZ550 6.5X55 full stock certainly helps me recall those days. CZ stopped manufacturing the FS line a couple years ago. I think Ruger still may mfg a Mannlicher stocked rifle? I too love the 6.5 caliber which is why I added a Browning X-Bolt 6.5CM to my safe. As I don't reload....I was especially impressed with the outstanding line of premium hunting ammo available(2 years ago  ) for the CM which lead to my purchase,,,,,plus always wanted an X-Bolt!! My 300 Winnie, 35 Whelen shoulder bruising days are thankfully in my rearview mirror!! |
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Post by dougl on Dec 3, 2021 10:18:38 GMT -5
For some odd reason,the creedmore I bought came with a muzzle brake.It was fine to shoot with ear protection but pretty obnoxious without.I called Kimber a couple weeks ago and they sent me a thread protector so I could take the brake off.It still doesn't kick,even out of a 5.5lb rifle.My son has been using it all season and hasn't even taken his .308 out of the safe.
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Post by davet on Dec 3, 2021 10:51:34 GMT -5
If you run the ballistics on a 150gr .308 and compare that to the 140gr 6.5 you can see that the 6.5 is a superior down range bullet.
.308:
MV 2,677
200yds 2,262
400yds 1,880
6.5:
MV 2,725
200yds 2,555
400yds 2,388
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Post by waynzee on Dec 3, 2021 17:31:47 GMT -5
If you run the ballistics on a 150gr .308 and compare that to the 140gr 6.5 you can see that the 6.5 is a superior down range bullet. .308: MV 2,677 200yds 2,262 400yds 1,880 6.5: MV 2,725 200yds 2,555 400yds 2,388 I was just looking at a ballistic chart for the 6.5 CM with velocity differences for shorter barrels on Rifleshooter.com and on one of the charts it showed the 6.5 CM compared to .308 and yep, the 6.5 CM has it over the .308 |
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Post by Dutch on Dec 3, 2021 22:49:05 GMT -5
Saturday is my last shot for my new CM until next season. Really wanted to kill something with it, but Stroupy and my great niece proved it will kill a deer at such a reduced load already.
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Post by Loggy on Dec 4, 2021 8:34:21 GMT -5
Best of Luck Dutch!!
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My dragging days in those conditions are hopefully in my rear view mirror if at all possible! 
when those ole military rifles were lined up on gun shelves everywhere! Wish I could revisit those days for sure. My CZ550 6.5X55 full stock certainly helps me recall those days. CZ stopped manufacturing the FS line a couple years ago. I think Ruger still may mfg a Mannlicher stocked rifle? I too love the 6.5 caliber which is why I added a Browning X-Bolt 6.5CM to my safe. As I don't reload....I was especially impressed with the outstanding line of premium hunting ammo available(2 years ago 
) for the CM which lead to my purchase,,,,,plus always wanted an X-Bolt!!