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Post by bowbum on May 13, 2020 7:56:16 GMT -5
Our turkey hunter who just had open heart surgery 6 weeks ago is here hunting his tail off best he can. He has had close encounters every day that he hunted and video'd at least 5 different gobblers but no ethical shots presented to him.
So, this morning he pulls in at 4:50 a.m and normally he hunts the upper part of our woods but today he went down toward the creek bottom where a couple of toms generally roost.
A few minutes ago Kate spots this crowd coming from ---- you guessed it, the upper woods! It's early yet and it looks like they might be headed his way.
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Post by Loggy on May 13, 2020 8:32:50 GMT -5
Hope your guest hunter gets a crack at one Bowbum!! You will never, never hear Loggy say dem ole mountain gobblers are dummies!!
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Post by dougell on May 13, 2020 11:09:52 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again.Turkeys are beyond retarded.Dumb is an under statement
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Post by bowbum on May 13, 2020 16:00:52 GMT -5
Hope your guest hunter gets a crack at one Bowbum!! You will never, never hear Loggy say dem ole mountain gobblers are dummies!! They sure deserve to score for as hard as they work at it. But they truly are hunters who are into "the hunt" more than the kill. They take a lot of gun barrel-camera video and they really enjoy all aspects of getting the birds in close.
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Post by Loggy on May 13, 2020 18:08:52 GMT -5
Hope your guest hunter gets a crack at one Bowbum!! You will never, never hear Loggy say dem ole mountain gobblers are dummies!! They sure deserve to score for as hard as they work at it. But they truly are hunters who are into "the hunt" more than the kill. They take a lot of gun barrel-camera video and they really enjoy all aspects of getting the birds in close. Yup......putting one a tag one is merely icing on an already scrumpuous cake!!
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Post by davet on May 13, 2020 18:11:20 GMT -5
I went out today. I called one in...about a 6" beard....to about 25 yards. But he snuck out from behind a big 'ol deadfall tree so I didn't see him until he entered some smaller cuttings. I just didn't have the opportunity to shoulder my shotgun. Every time that bird would stop...he was in direct eyeline sight with me. Usually I get at least one stop where they are behind a tree....no such luck.
Saw one other nice gobbler along with a jake and a hen as they crossed a field.
Whacked a groundhog as it kept coming closer across the cut cornfield. That was at the end of the morning.
Seen a pile of songbirds. Very colorful and beautiful. Just a nice day out!!!
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Post by Loggy on May 13, 2020 18:51:00 GMT -5
I went out today. I called one in...about a 6" beard....to about 25 yards. But he snuck out from behind a big 'ol deadfall tree so I didn't see him until he entered some smaller cuttings. I just didn't have the opportunity to shoulder my shotgun. Every time that bird would stop...he was in direct eyeline sight with me. Usually I get at least one stop where they are behind a tree....no such luck. Saw one other nice gobbler along with a jake and a hen as they crossed a field. Whacked a groundhog as it kept coming closer across the cut cornfield. That was at the end of the morning. Seen a pile of songbirds. Very colorful and beautiful. Just a nice day out!!! Dave...you should start hunting those dumb("beyond retarded") gobblers that Dougell says are out there!! They're a piece of cake!! LOL!! I'm still looking for dem types in Sullivan County!!
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Post by dougell on May 14, 2020 7:06:02 GMT -5
Loggy,their brain is the size of a pee so they have no,zero,nada ability to reason what so ever and they have a very limited memory.They aren't usually easy to kill because their life and death revolves around hens.Once you get them away from the hens,they aren't hard to call in and kill.They can certainly be a challenge to hunt but it has nothing to do with intelligence.
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Post by bowbum on May 14, 2020 7:30:28 GMT -5
Loggy,their brain is the size of a pee so they have no,zero,nada ability to reason what so ever and they have a very limited memory.They aren't usually easy to kill because their life and death revolves around hens.Once you get them away from the hens,they aren't hard to call in and kill.They can certainly be a challenge to hunt but it has nothing to do with intelligence. I second that! If we rate "smart" as in instinctive survival skills, I wouldn't be seeing gobblers within 10 feet of my house. I don't even know how many gobblers I've killed. I used to like hunting them on the big mountain that runs from Forksville to Dushore where it is so big and dense that they had little familiarity of humans. I've killed several with my bow here by the barn, but I'd rather see the young guys get their time in hunting them.
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Post by Loggy on May 14, 2020 7:31:33 GMT -5
Loggy,their brain is the size of a pee so they have no,zero,nada ability to reason what so ever and they have a very limited memory.They aren't usually easy to kill because their life and death revolves around hens.Once you get them away from the hens,they aren't hard to call in and kill.They can certainly be a challenge to hunt but it has nothing to do with intelligence. I agree Doug re ability to reason(IQwise). Let's say they possess an astute "survival" ability!! I also see this "astute survival ability" to on average tremendously increase proportionately with spur/beard length. I also have learned with over 50 years chasing gobblers that a gobbler's "astute survival ability" can sometimes make a much larger brained hunter feel stupid!!
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Too funny
May 14, 2020 7:49:40 GMT -5
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Post by turkeykiller on May 14, 2020 7:49:40 GMT -5
I wonder how an ole' mother hen increases her survivability without a beard or spurs
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Post by Loggy on May 14, 2020 8:02:45 GMT -5
I wonder how an ole' mother hen increases her survivability without a beard or spurs My experience with fall hunting old hens is that they also possess advanced survivability. Likely is due to Mother Nature charging them in protecting several broods of poults plus naturally possessing imprinting abilities to get poults ready for the harsh world. IMO...an ole woods smart hen can even be a tougher quarry than a longbeard.
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Post by dougell on May 14, 2020 9:09:45 GMT -5
Loggy,their brain is the size of a pee so they have no,zero,nada ability to reason what so ever and they have a very limited memory.They aren't usually easy to kill because their life and death revolves around hens.Once you get them away from the hens,they aren't hard to call in and kill.They can certainly be a challenge to hunt but it has nothing to do with intelligence. I agree Doug re ability to reason(IQwise). Let's say they possess an astute "survival" ability!! I also see this "astute survival ability" to on average tremendously increase proportionately with spur/beard length. I also have learned with over 50 years chasing gobblers that a gobbler's "astute survival ability" can sometimes make a much larger brained hunter feel stupid!! I disagree completely loggy.I've killed and been on hand when plenty of long spurred longbeards have been killed.I called them in to the gun many times after they've been hot or missed the day before and at least a dozen times,I've sat and watched them flog their buddy after he got shot in the face with a shotgun.I've watched them attack and flog decoys and they have no fear of blinds sitting in the middle of a field.The last 5 years in a row,either my son or I have killed big,mature,heavily pressured birds on the last day of the season that came in on a string.They didn't come in because of any special I did.They came in because they didn't have any hens at that point.Turkeys are skittish birds that have great eyesight but they have no ability to reason.They can't learn and they can't get call shy.They live and die by what hens are doing.Two years ago,my son killed one of the biggest birds we've ever killed on the last day around 11:00am.I knew where two big Long beards were behind the house.My neighbor hunted them almost every day of the season and was never successful because he only hunted them after daylight when they had hens.I really had to convince him to go but he killed one within 20 minutes.When we walked to the bird,we had to chase the second one away.
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Post by turkeykiller on May 14, 2020 9:33:02 GMT -5
I agree Doug. Some of the longbeards I have harvested, were the easiest birds I got. I figure it's the same situation as a mature buck in the rut. They both have "love" on their mind, and throw caution to the wind
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Post by dougell on May 14, 2020 9:40:30 GMT -5
No such thing as a smart turkey,Gobbler or hen.Skittish and paranoid?Absolutely but never smart.
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Post by bowbum on May 14, 2020 17:58:30 GMT -5
At 5 p.m. this evening:
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Post by timberdoodle on May 14, 2020 19:04:41 GMT -5
Great picture!
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